I Have 2 Options To Implement A Web Forum. Which One Is Better?? (SQL Related)
Apr 18, 2005
Hi everyone
I have 2 options to implement a
very simple web forum. Which one is better??…..
The first approach is as the following:
-create a Posts table which will contain all posts.
- create a replies table which will contain all replies.
- The relation between Posts table and replies table is ONE to MANY
Advantages of this approach:
-
It follows the rules of normalization.
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It avoids null values which will accrued if all replies and posts where stored in 1 table.
Disadvantages of this approach:
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When it comes to implementing the search operation and data retrieve against posts table and replies table, I will need to run 2 different queries which means 2 connection to my SQL database. This means a slower execution and round trip to my SQL database.
The second approach is as the following:
-
Create one table which will contain all posts and replies.
Advantages of this approach:
-
one query will be executed, which means faster execution than the first mentioned approach
-
it avoids round trip to my
SQL database which happens in the first mentioned approach
Disadvantages of this approach:
- It does NOT follows the rules of normalization.
- You will end up with null values (for example the post title field will be empty when inserting a reply.)
I would appreciate any comments or thoughts.
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Dec 28, 2007
Hi Guyz
it is taken from SQL2K5 SP2 readme.txt. Anyone have idea what to do to implement this ?
Our sp2 is failing. we suspect the above problem and researching it.we are running on default instance of SQL2K5 on win2003 ent sp2
"When you apply SP2, Setup upgrades system databases. If you have implemented restrictions on the ALTER DATABASE syntax, this upgrade may fail. Restrictions to ALTER DATABASE may include the following:
Explicitly denying the ALTER DATABASE statement.
A data definition language (DDL) trigger on ALTER DATABASE that rolls back the transaction containing the ALTER DATABASE statement.
If you have restrictions on ALTER DATABASE, and Setup fails to upgrade system databases to SP2, you must disable these restrictions and then re-run Setup."
thanks in advance.
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Anyone having problems with this forum today?
I have had countless email alerts thru today alerting me to people replying to threads I have commented on. And I can see the person's comments.
1) WhenI click on the link it takes me to a page saying the post doesn't exist
2) When I try and browse to the thread manually I can't see the reply.
3) On one occasion I replied to one of these threads asking if someone had posted something and then deleted it. After I submitted the post I could see all the other posts in the thread which were supposedly missing before. The next time I browse to the thread (in a new browser window) I can't see any of the posts.
BROKEN!!!! I for one won't be coming back here until they fix it. Its pathetic.
I have posted something on the bug report forum by the way.
-Jamie
P.S. Its not just on this forum either.
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Hi,
Our website provide users with a forum where they can enter messages. So, typically, a user would enter a message, click submit, and their message would be displayed on the forum.
The db that stores these msgs uses a varchar field. Now, we're adding a facility to convert any urls that are entered to links by adding 'a href' tags, so that when users see messages with urls, those urls appear as links, and they can click on them. The problem is that if a user enters a message of 8K chars, then we add 'a href' tags to any urls they have, that makes the message length > 8K, preventing us from storing it in our db. (Please note that we do need to add HTML tags for other reasons as well, not just to convert urls to links.)
We thought about adding 'a href' tags during pre-render, thus avoiding storing html in the db, but found that doing such string manipulations, while a user is waiting to see their post displayed on the forum, was expensive. Timing tests revealed that the time to render such pages more than doubled.
I have solved such problems previously by adding an extra field in the db to store any overflow data, that is, data that appears after the first 8K chars.
However, I learnt of sql server 2005's varchar(max) datatype, and 'am wondering if the best way to solve this problem would be to replace the varchar field with varchar(max).
Thanks in advance for any advice.
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it works great, now say my order only requiers 700 of that sku,I only want to pull pallets that i need, how can i say:Select loc,sku,qty,datercvdFrom TableWhere sku=12345 (that qty summed is not more than 700?)
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Hi,
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* My questions are...
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- How problematic do you think a data migration would be in the future if I stayed with Access for now and upgraded to MS-SQL with a full forum?
- Is it just smarter to go with MS-SQL now, with an empty forum, regardless of any preformance issues because potential migration problems are a greater risk?
- At what point does the speed of MS-SQL at high volumes over come the potential lags in accessing MS-SQL if it is hosted on a different machine from the one hosting the webpages?
* And please keep in mind...
- I have no db training. I can muddle through Access well enough, but administrating MS-SQL I think might be another story
- This fourm will start off very small, but could grow to be quite large
- I may not stay with jodohost, and would therefore likely have to pay more for MS-SQL (which I woudl rather not do)
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hi,
i am building a forum in asp (just for fun).
i have a mssql 2005 server, and i want to mergeimport data from another mssql 2000 server.
but i dont know how to do it correctly.
i have some tables like this
[forum_c]
forum_c_id (PK, int, not null)
forum_c_name (varchar, not null)
[forum_sc]
forum_sc_id (PK, int, not null)
forum_sc_cid (int, not null)
forum_sc_name (varchar, not null)
etc...
forum_c meaning "forum categories", and forum_sc "forum sub categories".
forum_sc_cid has the value of forum_c_id to know to what categorie it belongs to.
but i dont know how to import it and keep the correct id's.
can somebody please tell me what i need to do???
if you need anymore info to help me just ask.
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I am doing a forum db job. There are two tables: ThreadInfo and ThreadReply.
One is used to store the basic info of threads,
and the other one is used to record the changes of threads€™ reply info from time to time.
I am using jdbc to connect to the sqlServer.
The connection is successful.
The codes are listed below.
try
{
conn = DriverManager.getConnection(dbURL,userName,userPwd);
stmnt=conn.createStatement();
query="SELECT thread_id, thread_title "+
"FROM ThreadInfo "+
"WHERE thread_title='"+threadTitle+"';";
resultSet=stmnt.executeQuery(query);
// The thread is not recorded.
if(!resultSet.next())
{
// Write to ThreadInfo.
query =
"INSERT INTO ThreadInfo(" +
"thread_id, " +
"thread_title, "+
"thread_hplink, "+
"thread_author, "+
"author_hplink, "+
"thread_date, "+
"thread_time, "+
"thread_chars, "+
"thread_reply, "+
"thread_click, "+
"thread_quote) "+
"VALUES("+
"'0001',"+
"'"+threadTitle+"',"+
"'"+threadHplink+"',"+
"'"+threadAuthor+"',"+
"'"+authorHplink+"',"+
"'"+threadDate+"',"+
"'"+threadTime+"',"+
"'"+threadChars+"',"+
"'"+threadReply+"',"+
"'"+threadClick+"',"+
"'"+threadQuote+"'"+
");";
resultSet=stmnt.executeQuery(query);
//Write to ThreadReply.
query=
"INSERT INTO ThreadReply("+
"thread_id,"+
"thread_title, "+
"thread_hplink, "+
"thread_pointer, "+
"crawl_time_1,"+
"thread_reply_1,"+
"thread_click_1,"+
"thread_quote_1) "+
"VALUES("+
"'0001',"+
"'"+threadTitle+"',"+
"'"+threadHplink+"',"+
"'2',"+
"'"+crawlTime+"',"+
"'"+threadReply+"',"+
"'"+threadClick+"',"+
"'"+threadQuote+"'"+
");";
resultSet=stmnt.executeQuery(query);
}
However an exception happened in executing the first sql code.
com.microsoft.sqlserver.jdbc.SQLServerException: No ResultSet object is returned.
But the info has been recorded in ThreadInfo.
As for the exception,the thread immediately goes into the Catch block.
And the info is not recorded in table ThreadReply.
Can anyone help solve the problem?
Many thanks!
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THREAD_ID int <= Primary Key
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Posts
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THREAD_ID int (owner thread)
MEMBER_ID int (owner member)
Body ntext
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