Identity Primary Field In Merge Replication
Jul 23, 2007
Hello I currently have a merge replication set up with 4 subscribers. A primary field for one of my tables is set to a integer indetity.
What Ive noticed is that depending on which database I enter data into, the indentity field (primary key) is set within a certain range I.e
On Server 1 - Values start from 1 then 2,3,4 etc etc
Server 2 - 24001, 24002, 24003 etc etc
Server 3 - 46001, 46002, 46003 etc etc
Server 4 - 68001, 68002, 68003
My question is what happens when these ranges eventually conflict? Do they automatically gain a different range such as 142 001, 142 002 etc etc?
Ive tried looking in SQL Help, and a quick search here, Im just after some confirmation before I implement this to my app.
cheers
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Jul 20, 2005
I want to use the Identity field (increment 1,1) as a primary key andhave a unique constraint on my other field which is of type char.I am worried that related data in other tables may lose referntialintegrity if records in the ID table get messed up and need to bere-entered.Can you please advice on best way to do this. I definitely need anumeric id field because it makes the joins and queries so muchfaster.
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Jan 31, 1999
Dear all,
How does an identity is affected by merge replication? Can sql control it so that there will be no replication conflict?
Here's the scenario, I have several tables with an identity column. the database resides in a server in the head office, there are several remote sites and remote users which will be running sql 7 desktop edition. Each remote will download only the data subset he is allowed to. Each site will be allowed add new rows on several table. Then they will update the head office server through replication.
Thanks
Reden
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Jul 31, 2007
Hello!
I got a problem with merge replication. I got a central sql server 2005 database on which i got a publication. Also there are 2 sql servers CE which are subscribers to that publication. I need to add some records on both mobile servers indepently but i'm using primary key as a user id in one table.
So when i add a user on one PDA i use next available number in column ID. In the same time I add a user on other PDA with the same ID, because I don't know that there is such user with the same ID.
Ok then I do synchronization. First PDA synchronizes with server but second tells me that there is a record with the same PK. And my question is. Can these be resolved writing a custom resolver or maybe you know others resolutions, because I think that is a typicall problem but couldn't find any solution other than using ie. HOST_NAME() function.
Thanks for help!
MZ
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Jul 26, 2007
I have a Merge Replication Problem and I'm not sure how to proceed.
Given the following:
Multiple clients have merge subscriptions to a central Server's DB.
DB contains a table tblUser
tblUser has a Varchar field; UserLoginName, which is Primary Key.
It also has an integer field, UserValue
The replication is configured to resolve to the greater integer value.
Client 1 creates a new User
INSERT tblUser
(UserLoginName, UserValue)
VALUES('Fred',1)
At the same time Client 2 does the same thing, but with a larger value
INSERT tblUSer
(UserLoginName, UserValue)
VALUES('Fred', 2)
One of the inserts will get to the Central Server first.
The other will form a conflict.
A row insert at 'Client2.dbUsers' could not be propagated to 'CentralServer.dbUsers'.
This failure can be caused by a constraint violation.
Violation of PRIMARY KEY constraint 'PK_tblUser_1'. Cannot insert duplicate key in object 'dbo.tblUser'.
So now I have two different value fields and a conflict that cannot be resolved.
Is this fixable?
Do I need to make changes at athe Architechture level?
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Aug 8, 2007
Sever: sql 2000
Replication: Merge
Issue:
I am having an issue with my audit table, This table is filled by Triggers on various tables through the database. All triggers are defied with "not for replication"
I have allocated 500k ranges, with 80% threshold to the publisher and subscriber databases for this table. The table only holds 225,000 records.
From time to time I get the following error "The identity range managed by replication is full and must be updated by a replication agent. The INSERT conflict occurred in database 'PublicationName', table 'AuditHistory', column 'AuditID'. Sp_adjustpublisheridentityrange can be called to get a new identity range."
When I looked into the issue yesterday I noticed that the identity range being used by replication was 334300001 -> 334799999, however the maximum value in the table was 334300096, meaning that only 95 records were inserted, which means it is no where near the 80% threshold.
Somehow the identity seed on the AuditHistory table had been changed to 334800104, which is outside the allowable range.
My question is what could cause the identity seed to get set to such a high number??
any thoughts would be great!
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Apr 5, 2008
I have a database table with a simple identity column. As a starting point... when I run the following queries... this is what I get:
SELECT Max(AliasID) FROM Account_Managers
1300006
DBCC CHECKIDENT ('Account_Managers')
Checking identity information: current identity value '1300006', current column value '1300006'.
Now... I set up merge replication, with the plan of allowing SQL Server to manage my identity ranges for me. I set up my ranges to be 100000 on the publication, 100000 on the subscriber, with a threshold of 80.
I would EXPECT to see the constraint
([AliasID]>(1300006) AND [AliasID]<=(1400006)) on the publisher and
([AliasID]>(1400006) AND [AliasID]<=(1500006)) on the subscriber.
However... what I do get is:
([AliasID]>(1300006) AND [AliasID]<=(1400006) OR [AliasID]>(1400006) AND [AliasID]<=(1500006)) on the publisher and
([AliasID]>(1500006) AND [AliasID]<=(1600006) OR [AliasID]>(1600006) AND [AliasID]<=(1700006))
Can anyone tell me why I get the OR... which essentially makes my identity ranges twice as large as they should be?
Thanks in advance.
- Alan D. Nelson
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May 16, 2015
We are running merge replication. My identity value was out of sync and the inserts stopped working. I Reseeded the identity value to 1500000 and ran "sp_adjustpublisheridentity" which set that to the new range (and table constraint) in the MSMerge file and table. I discovered my error and Reseeded the table back to 150000. How to I get the new range to be created when it is LESS than 1500000 in the MsMerge file???? Can I use the sp_restoreidentity....???
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Nov 3, 2015
I was reading this:
"Adding an identity column to a published table is not supported, because it can result in non-convergence when the column is replicated to the Subscriber. The values in the identity column at the Publisher depend on the order in which the rows for the affected table are physically stored. The rows might be stored differently at the Subscriber; therefore the value for the identity column can be different for the same rows."
I don't understand...
If I create a table with an identity column and publish it. Can the values on the subscriber be different when the data is replicated?
Suppose I have a this table:
1 Name1
2 Name2
3 Name3
Column 1 is identity field and column 2 the name of employees.
If I publish this table , the data can be inserted on the subscriber .pe, with 2 name1 and 1 name3 and 1 name2?
What about if the identify fields is a primary key?
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Jan 8, 2008
Hi all i have setup merge replication with one publisher and 3 subscribers
The replication worked fine for about 2 months then i recieved the following error on all my subscriptions
The Publisher failed to allocate a new set of identity ranges for the subscription.
This can occur when a Publisher or a republishing Subscriber has run out of identity
ranges to allocate to its own Subscribers or when an identity column data type does
not support an additional identity range allocation. If a republishing Subscriber has
run out of identity ranges, synchronize the republishing Subscriber to obtain more
identity ranges before restarting the synchronization. If a Publisher runs out of identit
(Source: MSSQL_REPL, Error number: MSSQL_REPL-2147199417)
Get help: http://help/MSSQL_REPL-2147199417
I have updated my sql server to service pack 2
The publisher is sql Standard edition and the subscribers are Express edition
Any help would be great
Thanx
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May 8, 2006
Hello,
We have a couple of tables that can have quite a bit of data each day prior to replication. Can we increase the default values for a table for each subscription? For example we have a table called table1 and on the sqlexpress client they could enter in 10000 rows a day, on table2 it's just 100 rows a day. How can we increase the values to where we do not get the error for table1 stating that the insert failed because it conflicted with the identity range check constraint. Thanks in advance.
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Feb 2, 2007
Hi All;
I am trying to set up Merge Replication on a database and want to set the IdentityRange Management to Auto for all my tables which use a Identity column.
In the wizard, on Article Properties Page, I can do this by selecting a Table, and going for its properties, but this is a tedious task as I have ~300 tables to set this property on.
Is there another way or a global location where I can set the property to true and even mention the ranges and the threshold, so that I dont have to pick each table and set it individually.
I am also aware of the fact that I can Generate a Script and modify it and run that, but I was looking for some way to do this in the wizard.
Thanks!
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Dec 21, 2005
Hi,
I read the BOL on how the publisher will had out identity ranges to subscribers, but it was not clear if this was also the case for anonymous subscribers. Will merge replication with identity columns work with anonymous subscribers that sync via HTTPS?
Thanks,
Darrell Young
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Apr 17, 2000
1. Can someone tell me how to replicate the identity field.
2. When I use the 'NOT FOR REPLICATION' option, I keeps getting synx error. Here is the command:
alter table tusers alter column {userid INT} IDENTITY (1, 1) [NOT FOR REPLICATION]. Do you know why?
3. When I use the transaction replication wizard, why some of the table do not allow me to replicate(There is a key and cross symbol on the articles selection)?
Thanks
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Jul 9, 2006
While I have learned a lot from this thread I am still basically confused about the issues involved.
.I wanted to INSERT a record in a parent table, get the Identity back and use it in a child table. Seems simple.
To my knowledge, mine would be the only process running that would update these tables. I was told that there is no guarantee, because the OLEDB provider could write the second destination row before the first, that the proper parent-child relationship would be generated as expected. It was recommended that I create my own variable in memory to hold the Identity value and use that in my SSIS package.
1. A simple example SSIS .dts example illustrating the approach of using a variable for identity would be helpful.
2. Suppose I actually had two processes updating these tables, running at the same time. Then it seems the "variable" method will also have its problems. Is there a final solution other than locking the tables involved prior to updating them or doing something crazy like using a GUID for the primary key!
3. We have done the type of parent-child inserts I originally described from t-sql for years without any apparent problems. (Maybe we were just lucky.) Is the entire issue simply a t-sql one or does SSIS add a layer of complexity beyond t-sql that needs to be addressed?
TIA,
Barkingdog
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Jun 30, 2006
I want to insert a new record into a table with an Identity field and return the new Identify field value back to the data stream (for later insertion as a foreign key in another table).
What is the most direct way to do this in SSIS?
TIA,
barkingdog
P.S. Or should I pass the identity value back in a variable and not make it part of the data stream?
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May 26, 2015
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Mar 6, 2007
Hello,I'm getting the following error message when I try add a row using aStored Procedure."The identity range managed by replication is full and must be updatedby a replication agent".I read up on the subject and have tried the following solutionsaccording to MSDN without any luck.(http://support.Microsoft.com/kb/304706 )sp_adjustpublisheridentityrange (http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa239401(SQL.80).aspx ) has no effectFor Testing:I've reloaded everything from scratch, created the pulications from byrunning the sql scripts generated,created replication snapshots andstarted the agents.I've checked the current Identity values in the Agent Table:DBCC CHECKIDENT ('Agent', NORESEED)Checking identity information: current identity value '18606', currentcolumn value '18606'.I check the Table to make sure there will be no conflicts with theprimary key:SELECT AgentID FROM Agent ORDER BY AgentID DESC18603 is the largest AgentID in the table.Using the Table Article Properties in the Publications PropertiesDialog, I can see values of:Range Size at Publisher: 100,000Range Size at Subscribers: 100New range @ percentage: 80In my mind this means that the Publisher will assign a new range whenthe Current Indentity value goes over 80,000?The Identity range for this table cannot be exhausted! I'm not surewhat to try next.Please! any insight will be of great help!Regards,Bm
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Nov 15, 2004
I confuse about Identity and primary key, what is the different between them. One table can have no primary key. Right? Thanks.
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Feb 1, 2006
Can someone tell me the difference between making a column primary key column vs. making it identity column?
thanks
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Sep 14, 2006
I have a table with an integer field (contains test values like 2, 7,8,9,12,..) that I want to convert to an Identity field. How can this be done in t-sql?
TIA,
Barkingdog
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Jan 22, 2007
What is the different between Primary key and Identity Column? and when should I them?
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Mar 17, 2007
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Im using visual web developer express with sql server, please please help!
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Jan 8, 2004
I have some code in my ASP.NET page which uses a SQL 2000 Database that was created before creating the ASP Page. The problem I'm having is using an insert statement such as the following example from the DATAGRID example on the Matrix Product. I want the option to create new rows but my Primary Key doesn't allow Nulls and when I hard code a number in the first field of my table for my ID...it's not automatically generated. I've looked through this forum but I'm having some problems understanding what others have done with Identity or GUID's...etc....:
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' add a new row to the end of the data, and set editing mode 'on'
CheckIsEditing("")
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' set the flag so we know to do an insert at Update time
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' add new row to the end of the dataset after binding
' first get the data
Dim myConnection As New SqlConnection(ConnectionString)
Dim myCommand As New SqlDataAdapter(SelectCommand, myConnection)
Dim ds As New DataSet()
myCommand.Fill(ds)
' add a new blank row to the end of the data
Dim rowValues As Object() = {"", "", ""}
ds.Tables(0).Rows.Add(rowValues)
' figure out the EditItemIndex, last record on last page
Dim recordCount As Integer = ds.Tables(0).Rows.Count
If recordCount > 1 Then
recordCount -= 1
DataGrid1.CurrentPageIndex = recordCount DataGrid1.PageSize
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DataGrid1.DataSource = ds
DataGrid1.DataBind()
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Apr 5, 2000
Can anyone explain the Difference between Primary Key and Identity Column in MSSQL Server 6.5. Please give me any example if possible.
Thanks for Help!!!!
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Out of the five tables one has two store procedure dependencies.
What would be the best practice to update the six digit BULDING_CODE column Primary Key value without causing any issues?
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Jul 20, 2005
We are converting a legacy visual foxpro system to use a SQL back-end.A number of (existing DBF) tables currently have a zero-filled primarykey eg. '000255' which is just an auto-incrementing key - but alwaysstored as a char field with leading zeros.For backward compatibility we are considering retaining this primarykey and using an identity field to auto-generate the next value, thenconvert the new identity value into the new primary key. So ifidentity is 256 then the key field will be assigned '000256'.Now the problem with this is that the primary key must be non-null andunique so must be given a value in the INSERT statement. But, theidentity value isn't available (I presume) until after the INSERTstatement has executed.Is this a "don't go there" kind of problem?ThanksAndrew GrandisonSA Department of HealthAdelaide, South Australia
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Aug 30, 2007
Hi all,
I know that adding a column using ALTER TABLE to add a column automatically allows SQLSERVER 2005 to replicate the schema changes to the subscribers, however, I would like to add a new column to an existing article that is being used for merge replication, however, I don't want this column to be replicated. Re-initialising the subscriptions is not a option. Help would be appreciated.
I am using SQLSERVER 2005 (SP1).
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Jan 13, 2007
Hello --
Following normal practice, I have an autoincrementing identity column designated as primary key in my table. I have two other columns that should also contain unique values per record, but the Identity option is greyed out (in Management Studio) for all columns other than the primary key.
I'm enforcing this programmatically (in my C# code) at this point, but I'd like to back that up with a constraint in the database itself.
Any help is appreciated.
Eric
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Mar 12, 2007
What is diffecence indexes, primary key and identity.
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Nov 17, 2003
I have the following issue
- my database consists of tables with one ID field as primary key.
for each INSERT the 'next' value from this ID field is extracted
from a table called TableList.
- this works perfectly fine, as long as I insert one record at a time:
but now I would like to run a command such as
INSERT INTO dest (name)
SELECT name
FROM src
i.e. without being able to specify the ID value.
Has anybody implemented this
(i would prefer not to use identity columns or use cursors),
possible with triggers?
thanks for your time,
Andre
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May 13, 1999
Most of the tables in my database are implemented with IDENTITY columns as the primary key.
When an INSERT from my application is attempted, sometimes I get an error returned stating that insert
cannot be done because of duplicate key value. If I try the INSERT again, sometimes it works(??). Of course,
DBCC CHECKIDENT resets the identity value if trying the INSERT again doesn't work. Then sometime a little later, the problem happens again.
Is there anything I can do other than placing into my application code the execution of dbcc checkident
anytime I want to do an insert to prevent the error? By the way, DBCC CHECKDB revealed no problems.
HELP!
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