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Jul 23, 2007

Hello I currently have a merge replication set up with 4 subscribers. A primary field for one of my tables is set to a integer indetity.



What Ive noticed is that depending on which database I enter data into, the indentity field (primary key) is set within a certain range I.e



On Server 1 - Values start from 1 then 2,3,4 etc etc



Server 2 - 24001, 24002, 24003 etc etc



Server 3 - 46001, 46002, 46003 etc etc



Server 4 - 68001, 68002, 68003



My question is what happens when these ranges eventually conflict? Do they automatically gain a different range such as 142 001, 142 002 etc etc?



Ive tried looking in SQL Help, and a quick search here, Im just after some confirmation before I implement this to my app.



cheers

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