Identity Question: Why Is Value Still Used When There Is An INSERT Error
Oct 18, 1999
Hi
I'm just wondering why the IDENTITY value is still used when you attempt
an INSERT that fails?
I placed a Foreign Key Constraint on my table. When I put bogus data in
the foreign key field to break the INSERT and get a 'Referential integrity Violated, Unable to Insert error' the Identities are still used!
For example, the Identity was last at 5. Then, I try 10 "bad" Inserts with Foreign Key Violations. The next time I Insert a record Successfully, the indentity starts at 16!!
why does the Identity get incremented when the Insert fails?
Angel
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Mar 8, 2007
Hey all, I have been working with Northwind on SQL Server Express
Trying to learn Transact-SQL. I am stuck at this point from code in the instruction manual. I don't know if I have a permission set to something that I need or what but I get the following error that is outlined at the bottom of the code. Any help would be appreciated.
USE Northwind
GO
ALTER PROC spInsertDateValidatedOrder
@CustomerIDnvarchar(5),
@EmployeeIDint,
@OrderDatedatetime= NULL,
@RequiredDatedatetime= NULL,
@ShippedDatedatetime= NULL,
@ShipViaint,
@Freightmoney,
@ShipNamenvarchar(60)= NULL,
@ShipAddressnvarchar(40)= NULL,
@ShipCitynvarchar(15)= NULL,
@ShipRegionnvarchar(15)= NULL,
@ShipPostalCodenvarchar(10)= NULL,
@ShipCountrynvarchar(15)= NULL,
@OrderIDintOUTPUT
AS
DECLARE @InsertedOrderDatesmalldatetime
--Test to see if supplied date is over seven days old. If so
--replace with NULL value otherwise, truncate the time to be midnight.
IF DATEDIFF(dd, @OrderDate, GETDATE()) > 7
BEGIN
SELECT @InsertedOrderDate = NULL
PRINT 'Invalid Order Date'
PRINT 'Supplied Order Date was greater than 7 days old'
PRINT 'The value has been reset to NULL'
END
ELSE
BEGIN
SELECT @InsertedOrderDate = CONVERT(datetime, (CONVERT(varchar,@OrderDate, 112)))
PRINT 'The Time of Day in Order Date was truncated'
END
--create the new record
INSERT INTO Orders
VALUES
(
@CustomerID,
@EmployeeID,
@InsertedOrderDate,
@RequiredDate,
@OrderDate,
@ShippedDate,
@ShipVia,
@Freight,
@ShipName,
@ShipAddress,
@ShipCity,
@ShipRegion,
@ShipPostalCode,
@ShipCountry
)
--Move the identity value from the newly inserted record into output variable.
SELECT @OrderID = @@IDENTITY
Errors received,
Msg 8101, Level 16, State 1, Procedure spInsertDateValidatedOrder, Line 46
An explicit value for the identity column in table 'Orders' can only be specified when a column list is used and IDENTITY_INSERT is ON.
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Sep 24, 2004
I'm atempting to use an Instead of Insert Trigger on a view to insert a record into a base table. The base table boundaryline has an identity primary key defined. The following is the error I'm receiving:
The column 'id1' in table 'dbo.ParcelBoundaries1' cannot be null.
Could not insert a record in the database.
The view is as follows:
SELECT IS_TAXLOT, IS_OTHER, IS_CARTOGRAPHIC, IS_RAILROAD_ROW, IS_IRRIGATION_ROW, IS_STREET_ROW, IS_CLOSING_ROW, IS_CONSTRUCTION,
IS_CONFLICT, TYPE, GMPID, BEARING, DISTANCE_LEGAL, DISTANCE_CALCULATED, GEOMETRY, GEOMETRY_XLO, GEOMETRY_XHI,
GEOMETRY_YLO, GEOMETRY_YHI, id1
FROM dbo.BoundaryLine
The trigger is as follows:
CREATE TRIGGER TR_ParcelBoundaries1 on ParcelBoundaries1
INSTEAD OF INSERT
as
BEGIN
INSERT INTO BoundaryLine
(IS_TAXLOT,
IS_OTHER,
IS_CARTOGRAPHIC,
IS_RAILROAD_ROW,
IS_IRRIGATION_ROW,
IS_STREET_ROW,
IS_CLOSING_ROW,
IS_CONSTRUCTION,
IS_CONFLICT,
GMPID,
BEARING,
DISTANCE_LEGAL,
DISTANCE_CALCULATED,
GEOMETRY,
GEOMETRY_XLO,
GEOMETRY_XHI,
GEOMETRY_YLO,
GEOMETRY_YHI)
Select 'YES', 'NO','NO','NO','NO','NO','NO','NO','NO', GMPID, BEARING, DISTANCE_LEGAL,
DISTANCE_CALCULATED, GEOMETRY, GEOMETRY_XLO, GEOMETRY_XHI,
GEOMETRY_YLO, GEOMETRY_YHI
from
inserted
END
Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated?
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Dec 14, 2004
Cannot insert explicit value for identity column in table 'tblUsed' when IDENTITY_INSERT is set to OFF.
:confused:
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Feb 18, 2008
I guess there is first for everything...I had never seen error like this before
Violation of PRIMARY KEY constraint 'PK_table1'. Cannot insert duplicate key in object 'table1'. The statement has been terminated.
In this case Primary Key is Identity column. I do not include Idenity column in Insert statement.
Incidently SQL server machines had cluster failure couple of days before. I am not sure whether it has anything to do with it.
I see this error randomly.
How should I debug it
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Jul 24, 2007
I am trying to capture the rows that fail during an insert.
The insert is an OLE DB command component.
I have config'd errors to redirect to a flat file.
My problem is this
I need to override the identity, fine if you are using 'fast load' but then you can't capture the redirected rows.
So I am using the regular 'table or view' data access mode, but then I lose the 'keep identity' checkbox.
At this point I add in another OLE DB command "SET IDENTITY_INSERT table OFF" before the actual insert ODB component.
But now it won't validate. I changed the task 'delay validation' property to true, but still it is failing.
It seemingly cannot detect this statement.
So how then can I capture error rows from an insert where I need to switch the identity off?
[This is a one off historic load I am working on]
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Mar 9, 2008
The following SQL statement fails on SQL CE 3.5 but works on SQL Express 2005:
"INSERT INTO BOOKINGS VALUES(@now,'"+note+"'," + p + "); SELECT @@IDENTITY;"
Compact 3.5 doesnt like the SELECT statement claiming that:
There was an error parsing the query. [ Token line number = 1,Token line offset = 72,Token in error = SELECT ]
Can anyone suggest the correct SQL to implement this via Compact? i.e. How do I retrieve the Identity value during and insert statement?
I have removed the SELECT @@IDENTITY; portion of the statement and it runs fine.
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Jul 9, 2006
While I have learned a lot from this thread I am still basically confused about the issues involved.
.I wanted to INSERT a record in a parent table, get the Identity back and use it in a child table. Seems simple.
To my knowledge, mine would be the only process running that would update these tables. I was told that there is no guarantee, because the OLEDB provider could write the second destination row before the first, that the proper parent-child relationship would be generated as expected. It was recommended that I create my own variable in memory to hold the Identity value and use that in my SSIS package.
1. A simple example SSIS .dts example illustrating the approach of using a variable for identity would be helpful.
2. Suppose I actually had two processes updating these tables, running at the same time. Then it seems the "variable" method will also have its problems. Is there a final solution other than locking the tables involved prior to updating them or doing something crazy like using a GUID for the primary key!
3. We have done the type of parent-child inserts I originally described from t-sql for years without any apparent problems. (Maybe we were just lucky.) Is the entire issue simply a t-sql one or does SSIS add a layer of complexity beyond t-sql that needs to be addressed?
TIA,
Barkingdog
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Jun 30, 2006
I want to insert a new record into a table with an Identity field and return the new Identify field value back to the data stream (for later insertion as a foreign key in another table).
What is the most direct way to do this in SSIS?
TIA,
barkingdog
P.S. Or should I pass the identity value back in a variable and not make it part of the data stream?
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Jun 19, 2008
Hi,
I am having problem in bulk update of a sql server table haning identity column from a datatable( has no identity column) using sqlbulkcopy. I tried several approaches, but it does not show any error nor is the table getting updated. But the identity value seems to getting increased every time.
thanks.
varun
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Apr 18, 2008
Hello,
I'm just learning SSIS and I've hit my first bump. I am doing a bulk import from a tab delimited text file to an empty sql table that has a Idendity column defined. How do I tell the bulk insert task to skip that column when inserting from the text file. If I remove the identity column it imports the data fine, but I want to create the indentity column in the table too.
Thanks.
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Nov 26, 2005
after i have inserted a row into the DB i am trying to get the last identity like this :
Dim myCommand2 As New SqlCommand("SELECT @@IDENTITY AS 'Identity'", )
Dim myReader2 As SqlDataReader
myReader2 = myCommand2.ExecuteReader()
where myConnection2 is the connection objectafter i did this i dont underdsand how do i get the 'Identity' value?i tried myReader2 ('Identity') but no luckany 1 can helpthnaks in advancepeleg
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May 6, 2002
Let me start off by saying I have posted this on:
comp.databases.ms-sqlserver
My apologies, try not to do that again.
I have a table that I am trying to insert into with data from another
table. Here is that Query:
INSERT INTO item (identifier, name, customlgtxt1, weight,mainprice,
customnumber3, customnumber4)
Select partno, name, description, weight,price, qtyprice, qty
From Import2
This seems to work fine.
My dilemma has to do with an 'id' column in that item table. This is
incrementally updated by one..ie Natural Key. I have set it to
Identity and used Set @@IDENTITY AS 'id'...worked like a charm. But
for reasons that have to do with a front end admin tool used by the
home office I can't set this column to have an Indentity property.
Screws up the insert done with the admin tool.
This is a item/price database by the way. Name of item, price,
description, qty price..etc.
So I've tried to put this trigger on the item table
CREATE TRIGGER auto_fill ON [dbo].[item]
FOR INSERT, UPDATE
AS
BEGIN
declare @maxc int
set @maxc = (select Max(id) from item)
set @maxc = @maxc +1
Select 'id' AS '@maxc',
notorderable = '0',
createdon = getdate(),
createdat = getdate(),
createdby = 'Steve',
modifiedon = getdate(),
modifiedat= getdate(),
modifiedby = 'Steve'
END
But the Insert Into statement (see above) will not work...giving the
error
"Cannot insert the value NULL into column 'id', table
'new_Catalog1v1.dbo.item"
Which I know...that's why I set it to Identity..but that cannot be.
So the question is how to set an autonumber (or natural key or I'm not
sure of the name) that updated from the max(id)table when inserting from another table.
And then...one more.
I have to update a table named UNIQUEIDS with the lastest value of the
id column (max(ID))..UNIQUEIDS keeps track of the latest value inserted
into the id column for a number of tables. Here is another trigger I
put on the item table to update the UNIQUEIDS table.
create trigger upUniqueIds_item on [dbo].[item]
for update,Insert, delete
as
begin
Select @@Identity as 'id' from inserted
Update uniqueids
set id = @@identity
Where tablename = 'item'
End
But of course this doesn't work if I can't set the columns to
IDENTITY.
I hope someone can help and I hope my explanation had made sense.
Need to increment the id field using max(id) and update another table with the last imported value of max(id). One occurs during insert..another after the insert..i think?
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Aug 27, 2002
I need to insert into a table that has an identity insert set to on.
I need to know how to turn it off while I insert data into the table.
Here is the senerio
column 1
1
2
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Aug 27, 2002
I need to insert into a table that has an identity insert set to on.
I need to know how to turn it off while I insert data into the table.
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Feb 22, 2001
Help!
I need to be able to insert into an Identity column and tried putting
SET IDENTITY_INSERT table ON
in a stored procedure , but it didn't like this if not dbo, which will be the case.
Is there anyway of globally making this setting and leaving it on permenantly
KB
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Dec 8, 2004
Is it possible to create a trigger that inserts the @@identity (primary key) from Table1 into a field in Table2?
If so, how? Thank you.
-D-
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Nov 10, 2006
Hi
how can I insert @@identity at once (for MS SQL 2000 / 2500)
INSERT INTO Table1 (name) VALUES ('any')
DECLARE @ID int SELECT @@Identity
INSERT INTO Table2 (id_Table1) VALUES (@ID)
does not work
thank you
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Sep 7, 2007
hi all,
i have a question:
i have a table that has an identity id column called pId and also a column called ParentPid.
now my question is that i want to insert the value of pId into the ParentPid when i'm adding a new Property to a table.
any idea?
thanks
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Apr 2, 2007
Hi All,
I tried enabling the IDENTIY_INSERT ON for 2 tabls in a database. It says that I cannot have 2 tables in a database with IDENTITY INSERT ON.
Why is this so?
Thanks,
Prakash.P
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Jun 11, 2007
If I have my table setup like so...
CREATE TABLE Customer
(SID integer IDENTITY(1,1) PRIMARY KEY,
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How would I do an insert statement so that it auto increments and creates a unique number?
I keep getting errors.
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Feb 28, 2008
I have twoo tables Table A (Col1 int, Col2 varchar(10)) and Table B (Col1 Identity(1,1), Col2 varchar(10))
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1 ABC
2 XYZ
NULL JIM
NULL KIM
10 min
I want to insert this in Table B
Well I seperated teh data per the TableA.Col1 where if Null, Table B will generate its Col1
But how will I do it in SSIS when TableA.Col1 in NOT NULL.
How would I set the IDENTITY INSERT ON on Table B while Inserting through SSIS?
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Nov 14, 2006
Hey, I've been having problems - when trying to insert a new row i've been trying to get back the unique ID for that row. I've added "SELECT @MY_ID = SCOPE_IDENTITY();" to my query but I am unable get the data. If anyone has a better approach to this let me know because I am having lots of problems. Thanks,Lang
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Feb 29, 2008
I have 2 tables - tblOrders and tblOrderDetails. Every time an order is placed, 2 INSERT statements are executed. The first one enters the general order and customer information in the tblOrders table:INSERT INTO tblOrders (custname, custdetails, orderdate) VALUES (@custname, @custdetails, @orderdate)The primary key in this table is OrderID which is an Identity column. This is the foreign key in the tblOrderDetails table.I'm trying to get the Identity value from the first INSERT statement to use in the second INSERT statement:INSERT INTO tblOrderDetails (orderid, productid, productcost) VALUES (@orderid, @productid, @productcost)How do i obtain this value and how would I supply it to the second INSERT statement?
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Apr 5, 2008
Hi All: I have what I'm sure is a common scenario...I have a table to track pageviews of a form, and which also tracks when a person viewing the form submits it.
The table has three fields: an INT identity/PK field, a DATETIME (default getdate()) field, and a BIT field with default "false".
When the page is viewed, I insert a record into the dB:
Protected Sub Page_load(ByVal src As Object, ByVal e As EventArgs)
conn = New SqlConnection("Server=myserver;Database=mydb;User ID=user;Password=password;Trusted_Connection=false;")
If Not IsPostBack Then
AddTrack()
End If
End Sub
Sub AddTrack()
Dim myCommand As SqlCommand
Dim insertTrack As String
insertTrack = "Insert PageTracker (submitted) Values (0)"myCommand = New SqlCommand(insertTrack, conn)
myCommand.Connection.Open()
Try
myCommand.ExecuteNonQuery()tempTxt.Text = "<br>Ticked</b><br>" & insertTrack
Catch ex As SqlException
tempTxt.Text = ex.Number.ToString()
End Try
myCommand.Connection.Close()
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And if I view the page, the record is inserted into the table. But now I need to know the value of the identity field, so when the form is submitted, I can update the field "submitted" from "0" to "1".
The way I would do it in ASP is to add a "SELECT @@identity" to the query, and get the value using RS.nextrecordset. How would I do this in .NET? or is there a better way for me to do this?
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Jun 1, 2006
I am a "newbie" and have been struggling with this for days! I have users enter their residence information and insert which generates houseid. I want to use/display that houseid on next page/step. I am VERY FRUSTRATED and would appreciate any assistance!
<script runat="server">
Protected Sub SqlDataSource1_Inserting(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.Web.UI.WebControls.SqlDataSourceCommandEventArgs) Handles SqlDataSource1.Inserting
e.Command.Parameters("@house").Size = 5
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Protected Sub SqlDataSource1_Inserted(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.Web.UI.WebControls.SqlDataSourceStatusEventArgs) Handles SqlDataSource1.Inserted
Dim house = e.Command.Parameters("@house").Value
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End Sub
Protected Sub Wizard1_FinishButtonClick(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.Web.UI.WebControls.WizardNavigationEventArgs)
End Sub
Protected Sub SqlDataSource1_Selecting(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.Web.UI.WebControls.SqlDataSourceSelectingEventArgs)
End Sub
</script>
<asp:SqlDataSource ID="SqlDataSource1" runat="server" ConflictDetection="CompareAllValues"
ConnectionString="<%$ ConnectionStrings:ic_registerConnectionString %>"
oninserted="SqlDataSource1_Inserted"
oninserting="SqlDataSource1_Inserting"
DeleteCommand="DELETE FROM [household] WHERE [householdid] = @original_householdid AND [housenum] = @original_housenum AND [streeraddr] = @original_streeraddr AND [aptnum] = @original_aptnum AND [city] = @original_city AND [state] = @original_state AND [zipcode] = @original_zipcode AND [HHPhone] = @original_HHPhone AND [timedate] = @original_timedate"
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OldValuesParameterFormatString="original_{0}" SelectCommand="SELECT * FROM [household]"
UpdateCommand="UPDATE [household] SET [housenum] = @housenum, [streeraddr] = @streeraddr, [aptnum] = @aptnum, [city] = @city, [state] = @state, [zipcode] = @zipcode, [HHPhone] = @HHPhone, [timedate] = @timedate WHERE [householdid] = @original_householdid AND [housenum] = @original_housenum AND [streeraddr] = @original_streeraddr AND [aptnum] = @original_aptnum AND [city] = @original_city AND [state] = @original_state AND [zipcode] = @original_zipcode AND [HHPhone] = @original_HHPhone AND [timedate] = @original_timedate" OnSelecting="SqlDataSource1_Selecting">
<InsertParameters>
<asp:Parameter Name="housenum" Type="String" />
<asp:Parameter Name="streeraddr" Type="String" />
<asp:Parameter Name="aptnum" Type="String" />
<asp:Parameter Name="city" Type="String" />
<asp:Parameter Name="state" Type="String" />
<asp:Parameter Name="zipcode" Type="String" />
<asp:Parameter Name="HHPhone" Type="String" />
<asp:Parameter Type = "String" Name="house" Direction= "Output"/>
</InsertParameters>
Next question is this easier to do using a Wizard Control and DetailsView on a "step" or using seperate pages and FormView? Or does it matter?
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Apr 12, 1999
I would like to use ADO in a new project but I need to find out how to return the identity field value to ADO out of a stored procedure. I have not done alot with ADO or with SQL 7.0 so if anyone has an example of the SQL and the ADO code that I would need I would greatly appriate it.
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Jun 3, 2005
Hi,
I'm nesting a bunch queries, the parent being a select, and the children being inserts. I'd like to retain the auto generated IDs from the original table, and insert them into the new tables (into identity fields). I believe that there is a command that I can use to temporarily turn identity auto numbering off for the current query - can anyone help me with this?
Cheers,
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Oct 3, 2005
hi to the group,
i am small problem,
i am having two columns 1 is col1 which is a primary key and col2 any think .now i want to insert the data into second column at that time the first column must get the values in identity (like 1,2,3,4 etc)
with out using identity(sql server)/generated always(db2)
can any one knows please explain it
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Oct 3, 2005
hi to the group,
i am small problem,
i am having two columns 1 is col1 which is a primary key and col2 any think .now i want to insert the data into second column at that time the first column must get the values in identity (like 1,2,3,4 etc)
with out using identity(sql server)/generated always(db2)
can any one knows please explain it
bye
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Aug 31, 2006
I have 2 tables with same structure.only difference is, TableA has key colum which is declared as identity starting from 1.
I want to insert data from TableB into TableA where TableB.Key is all null with TableA.Key starting from 9000001
when i try to do that iam getting an error
"An explicit value for the identity column in table 'lEADlOAN' can only be specified when a column list is used and IDENTITY_INSERT is ON.
"
even when I turned IDENTITY_INSERT ON for TableA
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Sep 21, 2007
I have migrated my application from Access to sql 2005 express. In access autonumber (identity) field was random number.
fter conversion now i want identity field to be "increment". management studio does nt allow.
I have created a new database with increment identity column but during importing data using insert into statement it give error
Cannot insert explicit value for identity column in table when IDENTITY_INSERT is set to OFF
please suggest how to do it??
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Apr 24, 2006
I am developing an integration process between two databases. One ofthem is a SQL Server 2000 and the other is using MSDE 2000. Theintegration process is done in C# (VS2003).The main database is the SQL Server, the MSDE will contain a reallysmall subset of the data found on the main. To help diminish the amountof time taken to develop an integration process between thosedatabases, the same structure are found on both side. The onlydifference, when I insert data in the MSDE from the SQL Server, I setthe IDENTITY_INSERT to ON and use the same IDs found on the SQL Server.I can insert one set of data without problem, but from there, if I tryagain, I will always receive the "Cannot insert explicit value foridentity column in table ... when IDENTITY_INSERT is set to OFF." Isaw on Microsoft website the article ID 878501; I noticed I was usingMSDE sp3, I upgraded to SP4... and I still have the problem.I know, when I call the update function on the sqldataadapter, theadapters contain the IDENTITY_INSERT ON and it's set to OFF after theinsert. The "Cannot insert..." error is the only one I received.Can anyone help me on that issue? Take note that this approach wasused because of customer requirements; the size of the database alsocauses some problem (over 200 tables) and we decided to use the samestructure on both side to minimize the support time.
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