Is It Possible To Disable Poison Message Detection?
Aug 3, 2006
Hi,
I'm using the Service Broker to parallize my processes (I know that the Service Broker was not designed for that purpose), however it's working quite well.
I use the broker procedure to start procedures which all process all a part of the workload. When the procedure fails because of a lock timeout (or for that concern, for whatever reason), I rollback the transaction (which also roll back my message received on the queue so that it can be retried at a later time.). And this is where my problem lies, if there are 5 sequential rollbacks of messages then the poison message detection kicks in and disables the queue, stopping all the processing. :(
Is there a way to disable poison message detection? I have implemented my own stop-mechanism through a counter system on a per sub-task system so if I could disable poison message detection that would be ideal.
If this is not possible is there a way to turn the queue back on automatically so that it will continue processing the messages on the queue?
Cheers,
Peter.
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May 14, 2007
Hallo,
I have some problems to handle the poison messages.
Messages are exchanged between 2 databases on the same SQL Server instance.
I created a Trigger on the insert , that call the sp that begin the conversation(10 minutes Timeout) and send the message to the target queue.
On the target queue I activated a SP and the main code is:
BEGIN TRANSACTION
WAIT FOR (Receive (1) ..) timeout 5000
IF (@ErrorSave <> 0)
BEGIN
INSERT INTO [TestSender].[dbo].[tblErrorXMLMessages] VALUES ();
END
ELSE
if (@messagetypeName = N'Message')
BEGIN
exec [dbo].[sp_ProcessMessage] @message_body
END
ELSE IF (@messagetypeName = N'EndOfStream')
BEGIN
END CONVERSATION @dialog
END
COMMIT TRANSACTION
My communication has a strange behaviour:
if I type
Begin
insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)
insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)
....
insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)
end
Everything work fine but If I write an insert of 1000 message coming from an another table and I use the
cursor login after I while the transmission stop because the Target queue become inactive.
I can see my messages stuck in the Initiator transmission_queue so I think that there is some Poison message that cause 5 rollback and disable the receiver queue.
First I would like to isolate the wrong message and carry on with the insert, my application doesn't have to stop the conversation or return any error, but If I use the Sql server Debugger I'm not able to debug the Target queue's stored procedure.
I suppose that some error happens on the Target queue's stored procedure but how can I first at all find it out?
Maybe it has something to do with the transition wrapped around the RECEIVE command?
thank you for any helps!
Marina B.
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I know I have to build in some ability to deal with a posion message. I was thinking that (sort of mentioned in the article http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms166137.aspx) I would write a special stored procedure that would handle this situation. I don't know how I could activate this. I don't want to poll of course in a waitfor.
Does anyone have a good idea on this?
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Hi!
I have crl stored procedure with distributed transaction in it. I really need such transaction. When a poison message occurs 5 time my queue is turned off.
I've read about handling poison messages in msdn (save transaction and rollback part of it), but it works only with local transaction. What should I do?
An important point is that messages shoold be processed in right order, I can't receive message and put it to the end of queue.
I want to try process poison message constantly.
I doesn't want to stop receiving messages in that queue.
Thanks.
kostya
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I am getting the following Error and I can't find it in the Manual.
Failure to send an event notification instance of type 'BROKER_QUEUE_DISABLED' on conversation handle '{5D273374-E84F-DB11-B3BC-0004239AB15C}'. Error Code = '8429'.
I have checked the service name for the notification and it appears to be okay.
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Hi all, i searched everywhere but couldn't find any info on the following error that i'm currently receiving:
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Hello again,
I have some poison message detection in place, based on the BOL sample. My problem is that after the 5th message retry my queue goes down - that is the fifth retry on any message. In actuallity, the first message is retried 3 times and it is taken off the queue [for real], the second message comes in and on the second retry - pooof - the queue is down.
I though the poison mechanism should work on a per message basis. It there a setting for the queue I missed? Is my only chance for to fix this: re-enable the queue upon BROKER_QUEUE_DISABLED event notification?
Thanks,
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