Large Insert Causing Problem With TempDB
Sep 4, 2007
Hello,
I have an SSIS package that basically inserts a large amount of data into a SQL Server table. The table contains sixty five columns, and a single load of data can contain two million records.
The 'loads' are split up into several 'daily' flat files. The package uses a ForEachFile loop to process each of the files. As each file is processed, the data from the files is loaded into a SQL Server table (destination).
Apparently, as the package is running, tempDB begins to consume a lot of disk space. The data file for TempDB on this particular server is configured to grow in 50mb increments with unrestricted file growth. During the last run of the package, the data file grew to 17GB. I ran the following and got the data file size down to 50mb;
USE TempDb
GO
DBCC SHRINKFILE(tempdev, 1)
Should I consider incorporating this code as part of the package, or is there something else I should consider to configure the SSIS package so that I don't run into space problems with TempDB?
Thank you for your help!
cdun2
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Jul 20, 2005
I keep getting the following error message when I run a serie of SQLcommands:Server: Msg 9002, Level 17, State 6, Line 15The log file for database 'tempdb' is full.Back up the transaction log for the databaseto free up some log space.I have tried "dump transaction tempdb with no_log" right before I runthe SQL command. But that doesn't help.The serie of SQL commands that I try to run is the following:create table #NewBatOp(BatchJournalID uniqueidentifier not null,batch_nr varchar(5) null,OperationNum varchar(3) null,OperationHours real null,EmployeeNum varchar(6) null,OperationDate datetime null,IsOverTime tinyint null)-- |-- Comment this one line-- | out will not triggerinsert into #NewBatOp -- <---| the errorselectbj.BatchJournalID, bj.batch_nr, bo.opno,bo.hrs, bo.bonno, bo.dat, bo.otflgfrom batop boinner join BatchJournal bj onbo.bat = bj.batch_nr andbj.BatchJournalID in(select BatchJournalID from BatchControl)if ( @@error <> 0 )goto OnErrordrop table #NewBatOpgoto EndTestOnError:drop table #NewBatOpprint "Error: Failed to import new batch-operations intojournal."EndTest:I have tried running the above statements in ISQL and in QueryAnalyzer, and I get the same error.I didn't have this problem before I have moved the database from oneserver to another server.- The OS in the old server is Windows-NT,and the SQL Server in the old server is the 2000 version.- The OS in the new server is Windows-2000,and the SQL Server in the old server is the 2000 version.The settings in tempdb in both servers are more or less the same.Actually, the tempdb in the new server is actually much bigger thanthe one in the old server. The size of the transaction logs in bothserver are the same (and cannot be changed manually). Both the dataand the transaction log of tempdb can automatically grow in 10%increment and no restriction on size.The data-and-log of the tempdb are both in one hard disk. The harddisk has 10-GB free space available. Moreover the size of the resultset from the "select" statement above is only 530KB (around 3000 rowsin the result-set). I believe it is a very small database operation.Therefore, I don't think the size has anything to do with the error.I don't think the "inner-join" clause is the cause of the problem. Thereason is that I have used the same "inner-join" clause in otherqueries, and they don't have any problem. As a matter of fact, I haveused many other queries that are far more complicated and have createdmuch bigger result set in tempdb, and they don't have this problem.I am very puzzled of this error. Can someone give me a pointer?Thanks in advance for any info.Jay Chan
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With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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Hi,
has anyone come across deadlocks on sysindexes in tempdb where the insert/exec combination is used.
eg
create table #fred (IntColumn int)
insert into #fred exec ProcThatSelectsAnIntColumn
This is being done in a stored procedure, and is deadlocking with other procs which are doing vanilla #table work - creating, inserting into, updatind, selecting from, etc.
I have noticed similar deadlocks where a #table is created inside an explict transaction, and I wondered whether there is an implicit transaction created, but @@Nestlevel is not changing either before or after the insert/exec.
I can't find any references in knowledgebase.
Any pointers appreciated.
Cheers
Simon
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Bankers Trust Australia Limited
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Unclosed quotation mark before the character string ', 19 )'.
At line 4467SQL statement: INSERT INTO tbl1 (ZPERS, Status, ErvTxt, VENTS, DNR, ANAME, Fall, Zust, GER, Empf, BET, SSK, GA, JAHR, PZ, LAUFNR, RVLAUFNR, EDAT, ETIME, VDAT, UTLAUFNR, Bew, AINR, ErvNr, PrintStatus, FristNr, HDAT, HTIME, RVExportiert, CrDat, CrPers, GATT, AZ, NR) VALUES ( 'STS', -1, '0123'1'00'0138-33/02(1)'J'F'452'R020311'KL01'ZB'01'C'00001'03'i'000000000'430200001'20030116'0905''000000460'20030116'1100'0242'3'15'00'00000001000'''-'00000000000100''''''''00100û¥00000000000100û¥00000000000100û¥0000000000010000000000015699200000'0000000363û¥00000000001000û¥00000000001000 rrrrrrrrrrrr ssss''RI20030'101012003010'1200301160'0''''''''''''''''''''', '', 0, '0138-33/02(1)', 'J', 'F', 97, 'R020311', 'KL01', 'ZB', 1, 3, 'i', 0, 430200001, '2003-01-16 12:00:00', '1899-12-30 09:05:00', NULL, 460, 0, 2927, 1744, 0, 0, '2003-01-16 12:00:00', '1899-12-30 11:00:00', NULL, '2003-01-16 04:04:04', 'STS', 'C', '00001', 19 )
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Code Snippet
insert into comment
values
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Code Snippet
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