Last GASP On Insert Row In Table With Identity Field, And Get New Identity Back ?
Jul 9, 2006
While I have learned a lot from this thread I am still basically confused about the issues involved.
.I wanted to INSERT a record in a parent table, get the Identity back and use it in a child table. Seems simple.
To my knowledge, mine would be the only process running that would update these tables. I was told that there is no guarantee, because the OLEDB provider could write the second destination row before the first, that the proper parent-child relationship would be generated as expected. It was recommended that I create my own variable in memory to hold the Identity value and use that in my SSIS package.
1. A simple example SSIS .dts example illustrating the approach of using a variable for identity would be helpful.
2. Suppose I actually had two processes updating these tables, running at the same time. Then it seems the "variable" method will also have its problems. Is there a final solution other than locking the tables involved prior to updating them or doing something crazy like using a GUID for the primary key!
3. We have done the type of parent-child inserts I originally described from t-sql for years without any apparent problems. (Maybe we were just lucky.) Is the entire issue simply a t-sql one or does SSIS add a layer of complexity beyond t-sql that needs to be addressed?
TIA,
Barkingdog
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Jun 30, 2006
I want to insert a new record into a table with an Identity field and return the new Identify field value back to the data stream (for later insertion as a foreign key in another table).
What is the most direct way to do this in SSIS?
TIA,
barkingdog
P.S. Or should I pass the identity value back in a variable and not make it part of the data stream?
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Apr 25, 2007
Hi,
I have a table with 1000000 records i try to add a field with following`spec.
[mkey] [int] IDENTITY(1,1) NOT NULL
I get the following meassage:-
yearly' table
- Saving Definition Changes to tables with large amounts of data could take a considerable amount of time. While changes are being saved, table data will not be accessible.
Then I Have the following error:-
Time out error
- How is the best way to copy a large table from one to anther.
regards
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Feb 29, 2008
I have 2 tables - tblOrders and tblOrderDetails. Every time an order is placed, 2 INSERT statements are executed. The first one enters the general order and customer information in the tblOrders table:INSERT INTO tblOrders (custname, custdetails, orderdate) VALUES (@custname, @custdetails, @orderdate)The primary key in this table is OrderID which is an Identity column. This is the foreign key in the tblOrderDetails table.I'm trying to get the Identity value from the first INSERT statement to use in the second INSERT statement:INSERT INTO tblOrderDetails (orderid, productid, productcost) VALUES (@orderid, @productid, @productcost) How do i obtain this value and how would I supply it to the second INSERT statement?
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Jun 19, 2008
Hi,
I am having problem in bulk update of a sql server table haning identity column from a datatable( has no identity column) using sqlbulkcopy. I tried several approaches, but it does not show any error nor is the table getting updated. But the identity value seems to getting increased every time.
thanks.
varun
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Jun 19, 2015
I'm trying to insert records into "holding" table and write back identity column value (Entry_Key) to the original table. So my setup is I have two tables; tblEWPBulk and tbleFormsUploadEWP. Users will enter records into tblEWPBulk and use BatchID to group records, once batch entry has been completed (usually less than 30 records) user will click on UploadAll button and insert records (not all fields) into tbleFormsUploadEWP. One record in tblEWPBulk can be sent multiple times to the holding table but tblEWPBulk will need to have latest Entry_Key captured. Records are sent from holding table to DB2 z/VSE using SQL stored procedure and based on certain logic records are marked uploaded or certain error capture... that part works fine.
So for example I want to send
BatchID, AccountNumber, Period, ReceiveDate, AccountType, ReturnType, NetProfitOrLoss, TaxCredit FROM tblEWPBulk to the holding table and write back Entry_Key (identity column) back to the record in tblEWPBulk (field called UploadEntryKey). As I said one record could be sent to the holding table multiple times until uploaded or deleted and UploadEntryKey always needs to be updated so that when results are processed response from the DB2 can be inserted into table and presented to the user.
No foreign key relationship exists since records in the holding table get sent to the archive table and table is truncated and entry_key starting value reset back to 2000... just some DB2 restrictions.
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Jul 17, 2015
Table 1:
------- ----- ---- ----
Name Add No RowID
------- ----- ---- -------
aa #a-1,India 10
bb #a-1,India 11
aa #a-1,India 12
----------------------------------------------------
table 1 inserting to Table 2 (Using 1st Data flow)
Table 2:
------- ----- ----
Name Add ID(Note:Here Identity1,1)
------- ----- ----
aa #a-1,India 1
bb #a-1,India 2
aa #a-1,India 3
----------------------------------------------------
My Requirement is Update Table 1 set Column::No=Table 2.ID
based on Exact Match of
Table1.Name=Table2.Name and
Table1.Add=Table2.Add
It means Get back the Id for Source Table 1
2nd Data flow
Source(Table1:Name, Add,No)
|
--LOOKUP(Table2:Name, Add::Matched Look Columns Name, Add and
Tick Mark on ID)
|(Match)
-->OLEDB Command: update Table1 set N0=? where RowID=?(Here Param_0= NO ,Param_1=RowID)
Here My Issue is if Table 1 had Duplicates(same Name, Add, but Row Id is different it is Updating Same ID for Table 1.No It means Get Back ID correctly not updating Result::
Table 1:
------- ----- ---- ----
Name Add No RowID
------- ----- ---- -------
aa #a-1,India 1 10
bb #a-1,India 2 11
aa #a-1,India 1 12
----------------------------------------------------
My correct Output is 3 instead of Result:Table1 1.NO 1 where RowID =12
It caused by LOOKUP , It picking Top1 ID while Matching Look on fields.
How Should I update the (Identity) Get Back Table 2.ID to Source Table1. NO in Above logic in SSIS?
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Nov 9, 2003
How can I alter a table turning ON or OFF an IDENTITY field ?
for example:
if I had my DB with Client_ID as an I IDENTITY field and for some reason it has
changed to just INT (with no IDENTITY) - how can I tell it to be IDENTITY field again ?
+
Does anyone knows an article on database planning ?
(I wanna know when should I use the IDENTITY field)
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May 11, 2004
Hi, I have the lovely task of overhauling some of our SQL-based systems. I've found many tables that don't have unique identifying numbers that really should have them. I've searched around and people keep mentioning the Identity field as being similar to Autonumber in Access. The only examples I could find involved setting up a new table... but I need to add (and populate) an identity column to an existing database table. Does anyone know the command for this?
Example... my table is called PACountyTown. It currently has 3 columns: County, Town, and Area. I wish to call the identity-ish field RecordID.
Thanks in advance!
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Jan 4, 2006
Hello everyone,
I have a table X that has two columns (names have been changed to protect the guilty and innocent alike):
ID which is an identity column, and
Data which is a varchar.
I am trying to DTS data from a text file into this table. I want the identity column ID to auto-populate and each row of information from the file to be stored in the Data field.
I am creating the DTS package using the wizard in Enterprise Mgr. No matter what I try, I keep getting the following error:
Cannot insert the value NULL into column 'ID', table 'X'; column does not allow nulls. INSERT fails.
Any advice on what I need to do to get this working? It seems like such a simple thing and I'm getting very frustrated. :eek:
Thanks in advance.
Cathy
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Aug 31, 2006
I have 2 tables with same structure.only difference is, TableA has key colum which is declared as identity starting from 1.
I want to insert data from TableB into TableA where TableB.Key is all null with TableA.Key starting from 9000001
when i try to do that iam getting an error
"An explicit value for the identity column in table 'lEADlOAN' can only be specified when a column list is used and IDENTITY_INSERT is ON.
"
even when I turned IDENTITY_INSERT ON for TableA
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Jul 20, 2005
Dear All,Suppose in the program a record is added to a table whoseprimary key is a identity field. If I really want to get the lastestvalue for that field after the insertion, is it the best way to useIDENT_CURRENT() to obtain this value?Thanks for your kind attentionYours faithfully,Benny
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Jul 31, 2001
I'm sure this is a common problem but I can't find any relevant info on this site
I have a table that I would like to insert values into. I want to take the values from a secondary table using a select statement.
e.g. a simplified version...
TABLE1
(
Id INTEGER IDENTITY,
UserName VARCHAR(50),
Description VARCHAR(50)
)
TABLE 2
(
UserName VARCHAR(50),
Description VARCHAR(50)
)
Runing the insert statement
INSERT Table1 (UserName, Description)
SELECT *
FROM TABLE2
results in the error
erver: Msg 515, Level 16, State 2, Line 2
Cannot insert the value NULL into column 'Id', table 'CDS_Live.dbo.Table1'; column does not allow nulls. INSERT fails.
The statement has been terminated.
I was under the impression that an identity column would be automatically inserted by SQL server. Now I know I could write a piece of anonymous Transact SQL which declares a cursor by selecting all rows from table 2 and inserting rows into table 1 on a row by row basis, but is there any way I could do the Insert with a single INSERT statement?
thanks
neill
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Jul 20, 2005
HI,I have an SQL Server table with only 1 column. That column is anidentity column. How can I insert a row in this table using SQLsyntax?I tried insertinto T_tableName () values ()and a few other options, but I can't seem to get it to insert.ThanksAlain
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Feb 8, 2007
Arif writes "I want to insert values in to a table which is having identity column, how? can you help me out from this problem.
Thanks in advance
Jamal"
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Jul 23, 2005
How do I get the next int value for a column before I do an insert inMY SQL Server 2000? I'm currently using Oracle sequence and doingsomething like:select seq.nextval from dual;Then I do my insert into 3 different table all using the same uniqueID.I can't use the @@identity function because my application uses aconnection pool and it's not garanteed that a connection won't be usedby another request so under a lot of load there could be major problemsand this doens't work:insert into <table>;select @@identity;This doesn't work because the select @@identity might give me the valueof an insert from someone else's request.Thanks,Brent
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Sep 2, 2006
I have a file I'm trying to do some non-set-based processing with. Inorder to make sure I keep the order of the results, I want to BULKINSERT into a temp table with an identity column. The spec says thatyou should be able to use either KEEPIDENTITY or KEEPNULLS, but I can'tget it to work. For once, I have full code - just add any file of yourchoice that doesn't have commas/tabs. :)Any suggestions, folks?--create table ##Holding_Tank ( full_record varchar(500)) -- thisworkscreate table ##Holding_Tank (id int identity(1,1) primary key,full_record varchar(500)) --that doesn't workBULK INSERT ##Holding_TankFROM "d: elnet_scriptspsaxresult.txt"WITH(TABLOCK,KEEPIDENTITY,KEEPNULLS,MAXERRORS = 0)select * from ##Holding_tank
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Jul 20, 2005
I cannot insert into my appointments table because the primary key and identity column, appt_id, cannot be added. What do I have to change in my SQL statement to add new records into this table? I'm using SQL Server 2000 BE with Access Data Project FE.tbl_appointment-------------------1. appt_id (pk) --- identity column, seed 25, increment 12. date_id3. time_start4. time_end5. appt_details6. lkp_emp_idPrivate Sub btnAddAppts_Click()On Error GoTo Err_btnAddAppts_ClickDim strsql As StringDoCmd.SetWarnings Falsestrsql = "INSERT INTO [tbl_appointments] (lkp_emp_id, date_id, time_start, time_end, appt_details) values ('" & txtLkpEmpID & "', '" & txtDateID & "', '" & txtStartTime & "', '" & txtEndTime & "', '" & txtApptDetails & "')"DoCmd.RunSQL strsqlDoCmd.SetWarnings TrueDoCmd.CloseExit_btnAddAppts_Click:Exit SubErr_btnAddAppts_Click:MsgBox Err.DescriptionResume Exit_btnAddAppts_ClickEnd Sub I did check through Access and through Enterprise Manager and it is setup correctly. So I returned all rows in enterprise manager to manually enter an appointment to the table. I get the same error when doing data-entry straight to the table. [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Cannot update identity column 'appt_id'. It does not automatically populate the appt_id field the way it's supposed to. When I try to manually set a value in there, i get an error: "Cannot edit this cell."
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Dec 5, 2007
Hello, I have a problem. I am trying to pull data out of one system and bring it into a SQL Server database for faster retrieval. The original table does not have an identity column and has a composite primary key. The table I am inserting the data into matches the original table exactly except I have an Identity column that I need for the removal of duplicates. The task gets to the final commit and then fails telling me that it can't insert a NULL into an identity field. Why is it trying to insert a NULL, the field should be auto-populating. I did add the Identity field to the table after the SSIS package was already built, but I did go into the destination and fix the column mappings. For the Identity column I just selected the "skip" option or whatever it was. Why are the identities not being auto-inserted and why is SSIS throwing this error?
Can anyone help???
Thanks!
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Feb 6, 2008
Hi,
I need to insert data into a table using data flow task. Unfortunately this table's priamry key column (integer column) is not identity column. I am looking a way to get the primary key value for the new records. Please advice. Thanks
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Dec 23, 2013
I just created a new table with over 100 Columns and I need to populated just the first 2 columns.
The first columns to populate is an identify column that is the primary key. The second column is a foreign_key to an other column and I am trying to populate this columns with all the values from the foreign_key value. This is what I am trying to do.
column1 = ID
column2= P_CLIENT_D
SET IDENTITY_INSERT PIM1 ON
INSERT INTO PIM1 (P_CLIENT_ID)
SELECT
Client.ID
FROMP_Client
So I am trying to insert both an identity values and a value from an other table while leaving the other columns blank. How do I go about doing this.
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Aug 25, 2006
I am having issues getting this to work. I have the user login to a page to
put in a request for vacation. When they login, I have a label that isn't
visible that is equal to their User.Identity.Name.
I select the user from the employee table where the username = the label User
Identity Name and pull in the emp_id which is the primary key that identifies
the user.
I need to insert the request into the request table with the emp_id from the
select statement, without showing the em_id on the screen. I tried using a
hidden field and assigning the emp_id as the value, but it isn't working.
Not sure if this is the best way to do this. Really new to ASP.NET 2.0 so I
really appreciate any help.
Thank you!
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Dec 21, 2007
I use SQLExpress2005 and I search about this problem , this is a BUG in MsSql 2000 but I use sql Express 2005.although in my table I set IDENTITY_INSERT on (master Key)Please help me
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Feb 5, 2006
Hello!
Do anybody know how to fix this error?
Cannot insert explicit value for identity column in table 'Gallery' when IDENTITY_INSERT is set to OFF.?
Thanks!
Varcar!
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May 14, 2015
I have a problem described as follows: I have a table with one instead of insert trigger:
create table TMessage (ID int identity(1,1), dscp varchar(50))
GO
Alter trigger tr_tmessage on tmessage
instead of insert
as
--Set NoCount On
insert into tmessage
[code]....
When I execute P1 it returns 0 for Id field of @T1.
How can I get the Identity in this case?
PS: I can not use Ident_Current or @@identity as the table insertion hit is very high and can be done concurrently.Also there are some more insertion into different tables in the trigger code, so can not use @@identity either.
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Apr 10, 2008
Code Snippet
Private Sub AddClientToolStripMenuItem_Click(ByVal sender As System.Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles AddClientToolStripMenuItem.Click
Dim addclient As New newclient()
newclient.ClientID = 0
Dim result As DialogResult
result = addclient.ShowDialog
If result = DialogResult.OK Then
Dim Client As clients_and_sitesDataSet1.ClientsRow
Client = Clients_and_sitesDataSet1.Clients.NewClientsRow
Client.ClientID = addclient.ClientID
Client.Clientname = addclient.Clientname
Client.Street_and_number = addclient.Street_and_number
Client.Zipcode = addclient.Zipcode
Client.Place = addclient.Place
Client.Phone = addclient.Phone
Client.Email = addclient.Email
Client.Contact_person = addclient.Contact_person
Clients_and_sitesDataSet1.Clients.AddClientsRow(Client)
ClientsTableAdapter.Update(Client)------------------------------problem
MessageBox.Show("New Client is saved")
Else
MessageBox.Show("User cancelled operation")
End If
addclient = Nothing
End Sub
Code in VB (2005 express edition)
Hi all above is aa snipped from the code I am using. all works fine exxept the ------problem line.
when i try to run the program, i get an exeption
Cannot insert explicit value for identity column in table 'Clients' when IDENITY_INSERT is set to OFF
how can i turn this on???? I seem to be stuck, vieuwed the msdn video on the subject and cant find what I am doing wrong. I hope u guys can help me out.
And please give me specific guide lines on how to put in the code and code lines. I tried using
SET IDENTITY_INSERT Clients ON
But than I get all errors bout things not being declared, set not being supported anymore, things like that.
Thanks for the effort you will put into helping me out and becomming a "self supported programmer"
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Mar 13, 2007
Is there no way to pass identity info back through SqlDataSource? You can only do that with ADO.NET code?
In other words, if I want to run a complex INSERT statement to a table that uses Identity, I can't take that key value back through something like SCOPE_IDENTITY() and use it?
I know how to do this with ADO code, but I can't figure out how to do it purely with SqlDataSource. I was hoping to do this without having to write a new Insert statement -- just using the one that's already in the SqlDataSource control. But there doesn't seem to be any facility for Identity in there. I tried embedding a separate select statement after the insert statement and a semi-colon, but that didn't seem to do anything.
Thanks!
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Sep 14, 2006
I have a table with an integer field (contains test values like 2, 7,8,9,12,..) that I want to convert to an Identity field. How can this be done in t-sql?
TIA,
Barkingdog
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Jul 2, 2006
hi friends,i have an identity column in my table.(e.x : id )and it's identity increment is 1.when i insert a row the id field is 1, and in next record the field is 2.....now , i delete second record(id=2)and now when i insert a record again , the id column is 3.i want to record be 2 instead 3.plz help me.thanks
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Nov 7, 2007
Hi:
I created a small SQL Express database/ASP.net/C# application and in the learning process. Before I implement it I would like to re-set autonumber / identity field back to 1. Also, I need to start with the blank database. I am not sure how to approach that?
Can you assist?
Thanks
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Mar 10, 2008
Hello friends,
I had created a web application and uploaded the application. Now the problem is with the DB. I had created the DB on the server (using script). But the fields that have identity field yes is not been set Now how I can set the fields identity field to yes. Fields are already there. Only I want to set there identity field to yes.Let me know how this can be done.
Thanks & RegardsGirish Nehte
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Nov 5, 2005
Please, How can I get the value of the identity field of the register that I was including in the data base. I am using a stored procedure in SQLSERVER in a asp .net application and I need to show that for the user, it´s like the number of the reclamation.
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Apr 2, 2001
If my table has an IDENTITY field, say, the table schema is:
CREATE TABLE BBB(
id int NOT NULL IDENTITY(1,1),
name varchar(20),
job varchar(40))
My data file, which does not carry the IDENTITY field
and its field terminator. The data file looks like this:
debbie cao,programmer
John Doe,engineer
Mary Smith,consultant
I tried to use a format file to bulk copy data from the
data file to the table. Never had any luck.
On the other hand, if I put a comma before the name field,
say, the data file looks like the following:
,debbie cao,programmer
,John Doe,engineer
,Mary Smith,consultant
then, bcp works fine.
But, my data file is automatically generated. It does not
suppose to have the leading comma. Without the leading comma,
I have no idea how may I make bcp work. The SQLBOL says it
can be done. Does anybody have an example to show me?
Please help, thanks!
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