Lift Chart / Data Mining Legend
Jul 17, 2006
Hi,
I am having trouble really understanding what makes a model accurate and effective at predicting some attribute. I can't seem to find any clear documentation about the mining legend of the lift chart on the Mining Accuracy Chart tab when working with the Data Mining Structure designer in VS 2005. Specifically, I would like to know more about what numbers in the Score, Population Correct and Predict Probability columns mean, and why they change when you move the vertical gray bar on the Lift Chart. Also, what is generally a good score to be aiming for, provided that it is highly difficult to get 100% accuracy with the kind of data that I am using.
Any more information on this subject is much appreciated. Thank you for your time,
Chris Burns
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Sep 26, 2006
Hi,
I have just run a simple data set through a model to predict a simple true or false value (i.e. binary output)
The Lift Chart/Mining Legend in Analysis Services shows three results €“ Score, Population Correct (%), and Predict Probability (%)
Population Correct I beleive is the percentage of predictions it got right out of the total number of predictions it tried to make. Is this correct?
However, I can€™t work out how the other two are derived in particular the 'SCORE'. To give a live example the scores were as follows:
Model Score Pop Correct Pred Probability
Decision Trees 0.83 76.59% 54.28%
Neural Network 0.75 67.63% 50.05%
Ideal Model 100.00%
Can anyone help with this and give a detailed explanation?
Many thanks,
S Rajput
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Sep 14, 2007
Hi,
I am not getting Mining Accuracy Chart and Min ing Model Prediction
Plz tel me how to do.And how to use the filter input data used to generate the lift chart and
select predictable mining model columns to show in the lift chart
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Jan 1, 2008
Hi,
I tried to create a lift chart with my custom plugin-algorithmn. The chart seems to be correct, but before it is drawn, an error occours:
Function ... Row 1 ... Column 43 ... cannot be used in this context.
(I've translated the key facts of this error message from german)
What did I do wrong?
Best wishes,
Manfred
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Jun 4, 2006
Hello . Because of my graduation project , I interested in data mining application , Adventureworks DW on MS VS 2005 . I opened File->Open->project/solution ->Enterprise -> AdventureworksDW .then I successfully deployed the algorithms decision tree and Clustering . Then I opened tab Mining Accuracy Chart then selected input table "testing" , which I had created before , from vTargetMail . After that , mining structure table and target mail table has automaticaly linked each other .Next , I selected predictive input as 1 , of the predictable row "BikeBuyer" . But , when I clicked "Lift Chart ", I only got a 45 degree line , everytime .. How can I fix it ?
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Sep 5, 2007
Hi,I am studying data mining features of SSAS and for a workshop I'vecreated 2 views derived from vTargetMail view of AdventureWorksDW.Train data consists every record except those in Pacific, and testview consists only records from Pacific area.1. I've created a mining structure based on Decision Tree and selectedBikeBuyer as predictable column.2. According to input column suggestions, I've selected Age,Eng.Education, NumberCarsOwned, YearlyIncome, CommuteDistance,NumberChildsatHome and TotalChildren as input columns,3. I've modified no other setting, and deployed project.I can get training results in decision tree browser and dependencynetwork (and both seem to give rather logical results) however, when Itry to browse lift chart or classification matrix I get an emptyclass.matr. and a lift chart of a single 45 degree line.Am I missing a step, or must I do some fine-tuning on (what)parameters?Thanks...
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Sep 5, 2007
Hi,
I am studying data mining features of SSAS and for a workshop I've
created 2 views derived from vTargetMail view of AdventureWorksDW.
Train data consists every record except those in Pacific, and test
view consists only records from Pacific area.
1. I've created a mining structure based on Decision Tree and selected
BikeBuyer as predictable column.
2. According to input column suggestions, I've selected Age,
Eng.Education, NumberCarsOwned, YearlyIncome, CommuteDistance,
NumberChildsatHome and TotalChildren as input columns,
3. I've modified no other setting, and deployed project.
I can get training results in decision tree browser and dependency
network (and both seem to give rather logical results) however, when I
try to browse lift chart or classification matrix I get an empty
class.matr. and a lift chart of a single 45 degree line.
Am I missing a step, or must I do some fine-tuning on (what)
parameters?
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May 3, 2007
Hi, all experts here,
I am a bit confused for the model evaluation (lift chart), should we map all the columns for both the mining structure and the case table? I mean for those predictive models, we have a predict column, shouldnt we ignore the mapping of the predictive column between the mining structure and the case table? But it seemes we are not allowed to miss the predictive column mapping between the mining structure and the case table.
Why is that? Could any experts here give me some explanation on that?
Hope my question is clear for your help.
Thanks a lot and I am looking forward to hearing from you shortly.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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Feb 13, 2007
Is there a Lift chart viewer like the model viewers that can be embedded within your windows apps ? If not, then can this be easily created via Adomd.net api calls ? Has anyone done this easily in custom DM applications ?
Thanks in advance,
anil
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Dec 25, 2007
how can i change the language of lift chart for description of vertical axis and horizontal axis and howcan i see the script of this chart for time series algorithm
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Aug 9, 2007
I have a chart and i am populating it from a sproc.
In the Legend i am getting InvestmentPercent.Value- InvestmentName.Value - InvestmentPercent.Value
How can I just display InvestmentPercent.Value - InvestmentName.value
In the graph it looks
3- cash -3
38 - FixedIncome -38
how can I set this thing right...
Regards
Karen
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Apr 16, 2008
I have added a pie chart to my report but the legend is not wide enough. Is there a way of altering the width of the legend?
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Jan 17, 2007
I am trying to develop a report that will show a 100% stacked bar graph for many teachers. Each teacher will have there own graph. The series in the report are the percent of scores given on a test, with each test in a group. Scores are given on a scale of 1-4. Most of the time a teacher will have all fours scores in there data; however it is possible to only have 2 or 3 of the scores. How can I set the legend up so that all scores across all the graphs show the same color for the same data series? Right now I get something like this.
First Graph
4: Lime
3: Purple
2: Blue
1: Green
Second Graph (no values for 1 or 2)
4: Blue
3: Green
I need the second graph to be
4: Lime
3: Purple
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Sep 1, 2015
I have a Pie Chart report that works well until Users discovered that when values are 0% or less across the chart, the Legend returns NaN. How do I format the Legend to return 0% instead of the NaN that Users do not want to see. Below is my express for the Legend Property="#AXISLABEL" & " - " & "#PERCENT{P0}".
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Jan 4, 2007
Hello--
We're running into an issue where analysts are having problems obtaining lift charts (via the Mining Accuracy Chart UI available in the Visual Studio Analysis Services project) and performing prediction (via the Mining Model Prediction UI).
The issue seems to be related to the underlying analyst security model. Note that this post is related to:
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=924641&SiteID=1
Analysts that work on the same problem will only have access to:
- A sandbox relational database (which contains views into the same source database). The analyst is db_owner of the sandbox database, so she/he can create data transformations required, etc. The sandbox database contains views to the source database, but the analyst only has read-access to the specific data elements needed from the source DB. So, they are very restricted w.r.t. the source database, but are db_owners of their sandbox relational databases. Note that the analyst will connect to he database via Windows Authentication.
- An Analysis Services sandbox database to use for their modeling, etc. In this AS sandbox db, we've created a role called "Administrator" and checked the permissions: Full control (Administrator), Process database, and Read definition. The analyst's windows account is the "user" associated with this role.
Also, in this situation, the SQL Server 2005 Relational Engine and Analysis Services are running on a single machine. The goal of this security model is to provide analysts with the ability to work in their "workspaces" (both SQL and AS), but not to see other analysts work, etc.
Under this model, Analysts are able to deploy mining models when the Data Source object that points to their relational "sandbox" DB is set-up with "Impersonation Information" = "Use a specific user name and password", where the Analyst provides their domain account information.
But, when trying to build a lift chart using the same data source view objects that were used to successfully train the model, the following error is occurring consistently:
Window Title: "Loading Mining Accuracy Chart"
Window Text: "Failed to execute the query due to the following error: Execution of the managed stored rocedure GenerateLiftTableUsingDatasource failed with the following error: Exception has been thrown by the target of invocation. Either '<domain><login>' user does not have permission to access the '' object, or the object does not exist. Errors in the high-level relational engine. A connection could not be made to the data source specified in the query. Errors in the high-level relational engine. A connection could not be made to the data source specified in the query.."
Since the Analyst was able to build the model with her/his given '<domain><login>' credentials, it is puzzling why the lift chart is failing.
Thanks in advance for your help,
- Paul
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May 3, 2007
Hi, all here,
Why the lift chart for my mining models evaluation does not have a random guess model line there? As normal, there should be lines like trained models, ideal model, and random guess model? Why is that? What did I miss? Could any experts here shed me any light on that.
Thanks a lot in advance for your advices and help and I am looking forward to hearing from you shortly.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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Nov 24, 2006
Greetings,
I have a mining structure that I am using to perform a text-mining
classification task. The mining structure contains three models: a
decision tree, a naive bayes and a neural network.
Both the decision tree and the naive bayes models process without
any problems, but I am having significant difficulties with the neural
network model.
Initially when I processed the model, processing would fail altogether with the following error message:
"Memory error: Allocation failure : Not enough storage is available to process this command"
This was remedied by taking the steps prescribed in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/917885 (I upgraded to SQL 2005 SP1 and
applied all available hotfixes listed in
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/918222/). This got me to the point
where the model (seemingly) processed correctly after restricting the
MAXIMUM_INPUT_ATTRIBUTES to a relatively low number. So after
processing, I went to try and browse the neural network model and view
the lift chart...
<error>
"Execution of the managed stored procedure GetAttributeScores
failed with the following error: Exception has been thrown by the
target of an invocation.Input string was not in a correct format.."
</error>
(see http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=935340&SiteID=17)
Also when I would attempt to view the lift chart and the
classification matrix the queries would time out with the following
error message:
<error>
XML for Analysis parser: The XML for Analysis request timed out before it was completed.
Execution of the managed stored procedure
GenerateLiftTableUsingDatasource failed with the following error:
Exception has been thrown by the target of an
invocation.Microsoft::AnalysisServices::AdomdServer::AdomdException.
</error>
Now, my poking around on Technet lead me to believe that this issue
could finally be resolved by uprading to the CTP release of SQL server
2005 SP2. Now I am still encountering problems. When I go to browse the
model in the Neural Network Viewer, I see the correct drop down menus
to select attributes and attribute values in the "Input" and "Output"
panes but I see no data displayed in the "Variables" pane at the
bottom.
Interestingly, while I cannot view the model contents in the
graphical viewer, the mining model contents viewer reveals model
contents that look to be pretty normal for a trained neural network.
Attempts to view the lift chart time out with the error message:
<error>
XML for Analysis parser: The XML for Analysis request timed out before it was completed.
Execution of the managed stored procedure
GenerateLiftTableUsingDatasource failed with the following error:
Exception has been thrown by the target of an
invocation.Microsoft::AnalysisServices::AdomdServer::AdomdException.
</error>
and when I run predictions against the trained NN model in the
"Mining Model Prediction" pane it predicts the same value for every
case in the testing set.
Any thoughts?
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Apr 26, 2006
Hi, all here,
I am wondering where can I store my mining results in data mining engine? For example, I got mining results like accuracy chart, decision trees, and other formats of results based on different mining algorithms I used for my data mining, so where can I actually store the results for reporting service use later? Is it possible to do that in SQL Server 2005?
Thanks a lot for any help and guidance in advance.
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Dec 15, 2006
I ran a decision tree, clustering and neural network mining model across a dataset of about 200,000 records. I am trying to evaluate the accuracy of each of my models but I can't view the results.
I get the following error:
Failed to execute the query due to the following error:
XML for Analysis parser: The XML for Analysis request timed out before it was completed.
Execution of the managed stored procedure GenerateLiftTableUsingDatasource failed with the following error: Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation.Microsoft::AnalysisServices::AdomdServer::AdomdException.
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Sep 29, 2015
I followed the tutorial posted at [URL] ...
Everything was ok until the last step where I had to process the mining structure which resulted in a warning
"Informational (Data mining): Decision Trees found no splits for model, Tbl Decision Tree Example."
What does this error mean? How do I resolve it? Also, I only see the first level in the Mining Model Viewer, I don't see the levels 2 and 3.
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Feb 23, 2007
Hi, all experts here,
I would like to know if there is any way to migrate third-party data mining packages with SQL Server 2005 data mining algorithms together then we can have a comparison among all of them to get the best results for training models.
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks a lot.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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May 31, 2006
Hoping someone will have a solution for this error
Errors in the metadata manager. The data type of the '~CaseDetail ~MG-Fact Voic~6' measure must be the same as its source data type. This is because the aggregate function is not set to count or distinct count.
Is the problem due to the data type of the column used in the mining structure is Long, and the underlying field in the cube has a type of BigInt,or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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Apr 30, 2015
I'm a beginner with SQL 2012 SSDT & SSMS. I get this error message when I try to deploy my project:Â
"Error 6
Error (Data mining): KEY SEQUENCE columns are not supported at the case level. The 'Customer Key' column of the 'TK448 Ch09 Cube Clustering' mining structure contains content that is not valid.
0 0
"
I am finding it hard to locate the content that is not valid. I've been trying to find a answer for this problem but can't seem to find anything. How can I locate the content that is not valid and change or delete it so that I can deploy this solution?
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Jun 4, 2015
Having successfully created :
- a data mining structure with about 80 columns.
- a data mining model using Microsoft_Decision_Trees with 2 prediction columns.Â
I thought I would then explore the possibility of have more than 2 prediction columns, in this case 20.
I get an error message and I can't work out :
a) if this is because there's a limit to the maximum number of prediction columns and where that maximum is stated.
b) if something else has become corrupted
c) there's a know bug and if the error message is either meaningful or not.
Either way, I'm unable to complete the data mining wizardÂ
The error message is :Errors in the metadata manager. Either the mining structure with the ID of '[my model Structure]' does not exist in the database with the ID of 'DMAddinsDB', or the user does not have permissions to access the object.
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Oct 27, 2006
In the Mining Accuracy Chart, the predictable columns of nested tables does not show up in the "Select predictable mining model columns to show in the lift chart" table. The "Predictable column name" is empty.
Predictable columns in the case table shows up, but not the predictable columns in the nested table. What am I missing?
-Young K
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Oct 25, 2007
Hi all,
I am using Microsoft_Time_Series and have set HISTORIC_MODEL_GAP to various values (from 1 to 21). I always get this error:
Error (Data mining): The 'HISTORIC_MODEL_GAP' data mining parameter is not valid for the 'My Time Series' model.
In Algorithm Parameters window, this parameters is not there by default, so I have to add it.
Any tip will be greatly appreciated.
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Jun 15, 2015
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Once implemented, we would have as many as 900 connections to manage (four years from now). It is possible that multiple sections will be running at the same time, so 40 students may be accessing the data mining tools concurrently. Â
Is there a way to "bulk establish" the access credentials and establish those databases?
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Aug 4, 2015
With SASS Database i have created Data mining Structure Using Time series algorithm, while processing the SSAS db, Data mining  taking long time to process, so how we can  reduce processing time ???
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Apr 11, 2007
Hi,
I am trying to model data in analysis services with the Advance Create Mining Model function in the excel addin. I am having trouble creating an association model that works like the Associate button above the Advanced button.
The format of my data is like this
OrderID Product
100 Bike
100 Helmet
100 Shoes
200 Helmet
200 basketball
200 Bat
300 Shoes
300 Socks
The associate button works perfectly since it asks me which column is the transaction id (orderid) and which column I am trying to predict (product). The advanced create mining model asks me to determine what the columns are...
OrderID=key Product=Input+Predict?
When I run the advance create mining model associate, I get a browser that gives me no rules and the support for only one item itemset (each product but no combination of products).
Does anyone know what I have to do to get it to work like the associate button?
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Nov 29, 2006
I've generated some mining models against an OLAP data source (dimension). However, when I go to generate a lift chart, it seems that the only data source that can be used for input is the data source view (the relational database). Is that right? Or is there something I'm missing here.
I was figuring I'd use one slice to train the model, then another slice to test the accuracy of the results. But right now it's looking like I can't do that.
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Jul 18, 2006
I perform data mining on all products and a specific product category.
Do I need to create 2 data source views, one for all products and the other one for the specific product category?
Afterward, I run the Data Mining Wizard 2 times to create 2 mining structures.
I also need to add the same mining model (e.g. Bayes, Cluster) to each of these mining structures.
Is there any simple way to do it?
Thanks.
Joe.
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Nov 24, 2006
Hi, all here,
Thank you very much for your kind attention.
I am wondering if it is possible to use SSIS to sample data set to training set and test set directly to my data mining models without saving them somewhere as occupying too much space? Really need guidance for that.
Thank you very much in advance for any help.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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[System.Reflection.Assembly]::LoadWithPartialName("Microsoft.SqlServer.SMO") | Out-Null
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