Log Invalidated After Truncate Table
Nov 23, 2005
Hi group,
In one of the books 'Gurus Guide to Transact SQL' i found this info:
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TRUNCATE TABLE empties a table without logging row deletions in the
transaction log. It can't be used with
tables referenced by FOREIGN KEY constraints, and it invalidates the
transaction log for the entire database.
Once the transaction log has been invalidated, it can't be backed up
until the next full database backup.
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Does it mean that the log backup taken after table truncation is an
invalid backup?
Help me! i'm lost....
Thanks in advance
Ronin
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Sep 22, 2006
SQL Server 2005 / .NET 2.0 Web App - SqlCacheDependency is not invalidated and I see an error sql log that occurs after the specified table changes:
2006-09-22 12:18:51.84 spid21s The query notification dialog on
conversation handle '{8D7EF5BC-544A-DB11-B6E0-000F1FD735BF}.' closed
due to the following error: '<?xml version="1.0"?><Error
xmlns="http://schemas.microsoft.com/SQL/ServiceBroker/Error"><Code>-8490</Code><Description>Cannot
find the remote service
'SqlQueryNotificationService-d61fa581-0567-43ba-991f-37499e87cbf6'
because it does not exist.</Description></Error>'.
I've read all applicable articles that I can find and applied hotfix kb916002. The sqldependency has never worked, it is not a stability issue as described in kb916002. In a trace I can see the sqldependency starts correctly. I have a console app that works fine with SqlDependancy calling same database and login creds. I don't know what to think. Calling sys.dm_qn_subscriptions show no subscriptions when this app starts as does the console app. Please advise as it looks like a broker issue.
Thanks
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Aug 23, 2006
Here is my issue I am new to 2005 sql server, and am trying to take my old data which is exported to a txt file and import it to tables in sql. The older database is non relational, and I had made several exports for the way I want to build my tables. I built my packages fine and everything is working until I start building relationships. I remove my foreign key and the table with the primary key will get updated for the package again. I need to update the data daily into sql, and once in it will only be update from the package until the database is moved over.
It will run and update with a primary key until I add a foreign key to another database.
Here is my error when running the package when table 2 has a foreign key.
[Execute SQL Task] Error: Executing the query "TRUNCATE TABLE [consumer].[dbo].[Client] " failed with the following error: "Cannot truncate table 'consumer.dbo.Client' because it is being referenced by a FOREIGN KEY constraint.". Possible failure reasons: Problems with the query, "ResultSet" property not set correctly, parameters not set correctly, or connection not established correctly.
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AS
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cannot truncate table members,because it is being referenced by a FOREIGN KEY constraint.
this what blows my head, There is no records in orders table. so why would the constraint enforced when there is no data in the order table. I created same table in access and I was able to delete a member from the members table. any comments.
thanks
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Feb 10, 2005
Hi,
(From Bol)
"You Cannot Use Truncate Table On A Table Referenced By A Foreign Key
Constraint;"
1) States
Statecode TinyintPrimary Key
Statename Varchar(25)
2) Rivers
RivercodeSmallint Primary Key
RivernameVarchar(40)
3) Riverinstates
StatecodeTinyint,
RivercodeSmallint,
Constraint Pkriverinstates Primary Key(Statecode,Rivercode),
Constraint Fkriverinstates
Foreign Key (Statecode) References States(Statecode),
Foreign Key (Rivercode) References Rivers(Rivercode)
after removing all rows from RiverInStates Table using TRUNCATE and the command completed successfully.
when i tried to remove all rows from Rivers table , i got the following error.
"Server: Msg 4712, Level 16, State 1, Line 76
Cannot truncate table 'rivers' because it is being referenced by a FOREIGN
KEY constraint."
i thought the error may be due to the "Fkriverinstates" FOREIGN KEY CONSTRAINT. so i DROPped the constraint with
ALTER TABLE RiverinStates DROP CONSTRAINT Fkriverinstates
even after DROPping the constraint, im getting the same error
can any one point out where the problem is?
thanks in advance
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any idea why this is not wroking ?
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declare
@TableName varchar
DECLARE
EmptyTables CURSOR FOR
Select Table_Name From Information_Schema.Tables
Where Table_Type = 'Base Table' Order By Table_Type
open EmptyTables
FETCH NEXT FROM
EmptyTables
into
@TableName
WHILE @@FETCH_STATUS = 0
BEGIN
truncate table @TableName
FETCH NEXT FROM
EmptyTables
into
@TableName
END
close EmptyTables
deallocate EmptyTables
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Hi ,
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Waiting for response............
Regards
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EXP:
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Hi All,
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Hello,
I am running SQL Server 2005 SP1. Whenever I issue a 'truncate' query to the DB engine it fails if the table to be modified is currently referenced by a foreign key constraint.
A code snippet (T-SQL) that demonstrates the problem is beneath.
Does anybody know a fix-it?
Thanks in advance,
Intenion
USE tempdb
Go
-- Clearing the 'tmpdb' database
IF OBJECT_ID('user') IS NOT NULL
DROP TABLE [user];
IF OBJECT_ID('address') IS NOT NULL
DROP TABLE address;
-- Creating tables: 'address' and 'user'
CREATE TABLE address
(
id INT IDENTITY (0, 1) CONSTRAINT pk_address PRIMARY KEY,
zip SMALLINT NOT NULL CONSTRAINT chk_zip CHECK (zip > 0),
street NVARCHAR(50) NOT NULL CONSTRAINT chk_street CHECK (LEN(street) > 0),
number SMALLINT NOT NULL CONSTRAINT chk_number CHECK (number > 0)
CONSTRAINT unq_address UNIQUE (zip, street, number)
);
Go
CREATE TABLE [user]
(
email VARCHAR(50) CONSTRAINT pk_user PRIMARY KEY,
address INT NULL CONSTRAINT fk_user_address FOREIGN KEY REFERENCES address (id) ON DELETE SET NULL
);
Go
-- Populating tables
INSERT INTO address VALUES (2365, 'street 1', 2);
INSERT INTO address VALUES (23369, 'street 2', 2);
Go
INSERT INTO [user] VALUES ('someone@isp.net', 0);
INSERT INTO [user] VALUES ('somebody@isp-r-us.com', 1);
Go
-- Truncate query that fails
TRUNCATE TABLE address;
-- Delete query that passes
--DELETE address;
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Hi,
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Msg 4712, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
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