Log Shipping And Nightly Backups
Apr 22, 2008
Quick question..
If I'm log-shipping data from a database can I still perform a full backup of it each night without it affecting the log sequence?
Quick question..
If I'm log-shipping data from a database can I still perform a full backup of it each night without it affecting the log sequence?
I am using SQL Server 2000 and trying to create a disaster recovery strategy that would run nightly and backup the database or at least the changes and would ftp these to a secure ftp site. For smaller database it is easy, I just take a full backup, zip up the file and ftp it to the secure backup site. This strategy does not work so well when the zipped up database is still close to 3GB. I have a pretty big window for doing everything but 3GB is just too much to ftp overnight. The recovery model is simple so the only other option seemed to be do a full backup once a month and take differentials nightly. The problem is I am offsight and the client may need to take a full backup during the day and my nightly differential would get screwed up.
There is a fairly low volume of transactions so the idea of just doing nightly backups on the data that has changed is the obvious choice but differentials don't seem to fit. Any ideas?
Thanks,
TH
where in sql server 2005 ( and 2000 for that matter) do i find the path to the location where backups are placed (.bak files)? is there sql i can use to find this out
View 6 Replies View RelatedI have some questions on backups and log shipping.
Before I get to them, though, the goal:
Back up a SQL 2000 database (~5GB in size) completely every day.
Back up its transaction log hourly.
Maintain a warm backup DB server using log shipping.
Here is what I have done so far, which has led to my questions:
I have stopped using maintenance plans for backups, feeling that
then the process would be less 'black boxy'
I first created two jobs to perform the daily db and hourly tlog backups
that saved the backups in files using the naming formats
<name>_db_<yymmdd>.bak and <name>_tlog_<yymmddnnss>.bak.
Issue 1: doing backups this way means that it's a little difficult for the
log shipping jobs to figure out the filenames (esp. the tlog ones), if log
shipping is going to use the files generated by the backup jobs.
Issue 2: I thought maybe I'd have log shipping generate its OWN backup
files, but would that cause problems with the transaction log? Say the
normal tlog backup fires, then fifteen minutes later the shipping tlog
backup fires. Would the shipping tlog backup file be missing the transactions
that were backed up during the normal log backup?
Issue 3: To try to help with the naming issue, I tried switching the backups from
creating new files each time to file devices whose names would be constant.
This worked, but since my database is about 5GB in size, that meant
that, with expiring backups after 7 days, the database backup device
would settle in at about 25GB (I skip weekends) and I'd have to copy
or cab-copy-uncab that file over to my warm server every day. That
seemed a little inefficient. Does anybody have alternative ideas?
My last question is for general info:
Where does SQL Server keep the information on the backups that exist?
Whether I was using individual files or file devices, I was able to go to
Database-All Tasks-Restore Database... in Enterprise Manager and it
would show me the backups that existed. I imagine these must be
stored in a system table somewhere, but I did not see any obvious place
to look (no 'sysbackups' table, etc.).
Many thanks in advance for your input!
Geoff
We have a SQL 2012 server instance that has log shipping set up to another SQL 2012 server to provide a warm standby for a forward facing application. The databases on the primary server occasionally are required to be backed up and restored to a development environment, completely different server. Is there a way to schedule full backups with log shipping enabled?
View 2 Replies View RelatedI've got log shipping set up, and everything seems to be working fine, but the log files are not being deleted from the primary server despite configuring log shipping to retain them for 3 days. I see no errors concerning the log shipping, but did not configure a monitor. What process is responsible for deleting the older log backups, and how can I look for errors. I could simply set up a jog to delete the older files, but that will only mask the issue.
View 3 Replies View RelatedHello,
I would like to know if anyone has a recommended method for having backups to tape while running log shipping. For example, is it possible to copy the transaction log backups used for log shipping to tape and apply them to a Full Database Restore from a 3rd Party Backup tool such as Veritas?
My goal is to be able to do a point-in-time restore from tape and still be able to use SQL Server 2005 Log Shipping.
Thanks,
Erik
Hi,
I plan to use Log Shipping on SQL 2000 to have warm standby database. I understand current procedure but have a question wether I can do full normal backups of my database server without screwing up my Log Shipping process? Also can I do transaction log backups as well (separate from the ones used for log shipping)?
Afternoon,
I have a few Log Shipped DBs that are working great.
Currently they are set to fire off every 15 minutes 24/7.
My question is this ... I need to get FULL backups of the source DBs in order to restore them on certain Dev boxes.
If I were to execute the full backup on one of these Log Shipped DBs ... how would it affect the log shipping process?
Is there a special method to accomplish this?
As a side note, what would be some concerns/issues if in being able to create the FULL backups and not interupt log shipping, I were to create the backup using a 3rd party tool like Quest LiteSpeed?
I sure wish we were on Enterprise, then I could create a mirror and then snapshot off it to create my backups BUT ... that is not the case as we stand today.
Thanks
Please help.I have Database A (Archived data), Database B (Transactional data).Both A and B do not have any timestamps in any tables.I need to bring A (only once because it is archived data) and B withonly differentials into Database C for reporting purposes.Currently C is cleared before loading B with differentials every nightand A is not loaded since it takes 15 hours to load.Now I want to bring A once and leave it and then bring B every nightwith differentials without clearing C.Please suggest some solutions.Thank You
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Do you guys do the DBCC CHECKDB on system tables TEMPDB, MASTER, MODEL, MSDB.
When do you run the DBCC UPDATEUSAGE
First i do the following at night
Check database integrity
Rebuild Indexes
Backup Full
Remove old bak
clean up history of all bak
clean up history logs
I was wondering when to put in dbcc updateusage
I look forward to your comments
I have to verify a .CSV file exists before I run a BULK INSERT. I am using XP_FileExist in SQL 2000 to accomplish this. After the Bulk Insert is completed and validated, I need to Rename the file and Move the file to archive the folder. For testing I figure If I can rename the file I can move it. I suspect I have permission issues and need to provide the SQL Server Agent permissions to this folder and file. I have my PC setup as a SQL 2000 Server and am attempting to get this step only working on my local machine. I created a nightly Job that remanes a file that I created in a Job and that is all it does. I am running the Job as SA but am still having issues.
The step being executed by the Job is "Ren C:MyTestFile.csv C:MyTestFile1.csv" (with the quotes). If I run this statment (without the Quotes from a command prompt, the file is renamed.
I have set the Type as "Operating System Command (CmdEXEC)". The Job history shows "The process could not be created for step 2 of job 0x71D51027F920A140A2913234DB7FF509 (reason: The system cannot find the file specified). The step failed."
As I said, I suspect that it is a permissions issue as the command works from the command prompt. What is the windows account that the SQL Server Agent uses to commit these commands? I added "Everyone" with Full access to the folder and I still get the same failure.
I would appreciate any assistance anyone could provide. Thanks in advance!
I have a production database that I would like to have copied over to a backup database on a separate server every evening. I don't want to mirror, I just want the databases synced up every evening.
The servers are physically attached through a gigabit switch and the database is relatively small, so I don't think that speed will be an issue.
Could someone point me to an article about the best way to accomplish this?
Thanks.
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I know this is probably an easy thing to do but I've been struggling with this on and off for the past month or so. All I want to do is copy two databases (our app db's) to two other databases (for app testing and training) on the same server every night. The databases aren't used during this time so they can be taken down if necessary.
I've tried using the Copy Database wizard and scheduling the resulting job but that isn't working...
Thanks in advance for any direction/help!
The space allocated to the Log in question is 180 GB. During this time period I was running TLog backups every 5 minutes, yet the log continued to chew through to 80 GB used, even after the process was complete and a final TLog backup had been taken. It continued to stay very large until the Full backup was complete -- or something else that I'm unaware of completed. Like every other DBA I typically take a TLog backup to shrink the log, but what appeared to be the case here was the Full completed and it released the used log space. All said, will Transaction Log backups not free up the log during Full backups?
View 3 Replies View RelatedDoes anyone see any negative consequences to stopping and starting SQL Server nightly?
View 2 Replies View RelatedHow would you solve this problem?
Would you use replication? SSIS? Schedule stored procs? A third party data tool?
We have about 50 databases located at offices around the world. There are several key tables which we need a central copy of at our Head Office.
We need only the new INSERTS or UPDATES for the day to be copied to head office.
The copying process should happen after business hours for that office.
Some cleaning of the data needs to happen before updating head office.
Our database is being installed at new offices every other month, so it's important to us that this be easy to add a new database into the schedule, ideally without needing a SQL DBA or Developer.
We want something robust, performant and easy to troubleshoot.
Kev
I need some help. I'm running Win2000 w/SQL 2000 Active/Active cluster. I've started having problems where one node will fail over automatically every night. The times are different each night and the only thing that shows up in the log file is the SQL Server terminated due to stop request from the service control manager. I can't find any error to point me in any direction. Does anyone have any idea what could be causing this?
Thanks,
Jeff
I need some assistence here.I have two servers. One with MS SQL 2000 Standard edition and MSDE(MSdesktop engine).I need to sync my databases nightly, as a backup.Is there a cheap software that will do this? I don't want to justbackup the entire databases files b/c they are large and I'mtransfering them over DSL.I was thinking transaction logging, but I'm not sure. Is there a easyway to do this?I don't know how to accomplish this task.PLEASE HELP.
View 9 Replies View RelatedI run a nightly full backup of the databases and then back up the transaction log. After completing the full database backup and the transaction log, I then update all existing statistics.
Is this a good practice to do on a nightly basis? I drop and re-create indexes on all the databases once a week. Does updating the statistics really help?
Hi
I could not able to find Forums in regards to 'Log Shipping' thats why posting this question in here. Appriciate if someone can provide me answers depends on their experience.
Can we switch database recovery model when log shipping is turned on ?
We want to switch from Full Recovery to Bulk Logged Recovery to make sure Bulk Insert operations during the after hours load process will have some performance gain.
Is there any possibility of loosing data ?
Thanks
Hello, we are running MSSQL 2005 express on a windows 2003 machine. I have looked in SQL Server Management Studio for close to an hour and could not find a way to setup automatic backups of databases. Where is this feature, and short tutorial would be great. Thanks!
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Where do you begin to discover the cause of the crash?
Hi,
I 'm sure I am missing something obvious, hopefully someone could point it out. After a failover log shipping, I want to fail back to my inital Primary server database; however, my database is marked as loading. How can I mark it as normal?
I did the failover as follow:
I did a failover log shipping from the 2 server Sv1 (Primary) and Sv2 (Secondary) by doing the following
1) Stop the primary database by using sp_change_primary_role (Sv1)
2) Change the 2nd server to primary server by running sp_change_secondary_role (Sv2)
3) Change the monitor role by running sp-change_monitor_role (Sv2)
4) Resolve the log ins - (Sv2)
5) Now I want to fail back - I copy the TRN files to Sv1 - use SQL Ent to restore the database at point in time. The task is done; however, the database is still mark as loading. I could not use sp_dboption.
I appreciate any suggestion.
Thanks in advance
Hi,
I'm trying to work out how to backup an ASP.NET 2.0 site which uses an SQL 2005 Express database located in the App_Data directory. It seems that the database file cannot be copied while in use so I guess that either leaves taking the site offline or maybe the database can be backed up to another location using a scheduled task?
Any suggestions?
Thanks,
Dale
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Stacy