Looking For 2000 &&> 2005 Replication Options.
Aug 8, 2007
I am looking for a way to replicate databases from an environment using SQL Server 2000 sp4 to machines using either 2000 sp4 or 2005 sp2. The size of the dbs (+3 gb) warrant a transactional model, but the developers opted to not create primary keys for any of their tables and PKs are required for transactional publications (http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1627873&SiteID=17&pageid=0#1614178). Creating PKs are, most likely, not an option given the time constraints of the project.
I'm also aware of the fact that merge replication does not work from SQL Server 2000 to SQL Server 2005 (http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=499634&SiteID=1).
I'm looking for alternative solutions to this problem, regardless of whether it's replication or not. Log shipping was suggested at one point, but I want secondary confirmation on this. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
UPDATE: Log shipping in SQL Server 2000 is supported in Enterprise and Developer edition. The source server is using 2000 Standard.
UPDATE 2: Log shipping in SQL Server Standard is *possible* but unsupported http://sql-server-performance.com/Community/forums/t/17798.aspx?PageIndex=1. It looks like the original poster was still having problems by the end of this thread.
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Aug 9, 2007
I am considering using a local database for a desktop application, instead of relying on remote connections. This will require replication I suppose to sync up table changes etc. What are my options when using Sql express on the client end and Sql server (standard edition) ?
After looking at this
http://www.microsoft.com/sql/prodinfo/features/compare-features.mspx
Now, Im wondering how do I get local changes merged back into the primary database ?
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Aug 3, 2006
If we changed the sort order from BIN to BIN2 but kept everything else the same will it have any effect on replication? So in SQL 2005 if I were to change my default collation from Latin1_General_Bin to Latin1_General_Bin2, would that cause replication to break? I suspect that it will not be an issue since it is just sort order that is changing and the code page stays the same.
BTW, this is transactional replication. Sorry, I left that out of my original post.
Thanks,
Grant
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Oct 2, 2015
I would get from scripting the replication out from SQL Server itself. However, there are a couple of things that are not showing up in the script,Adding the option to IncludeUninstallDistributor or UninstallDistributor doesn't appear to add any code to actually do that. i.e. the below code is never added.
/****** Uninstalling the server as a Distributor. Script Date: 10/1/2015 4:34:13 PM ******/
use master
exec sp_dropdistributor @no_checks = 1, @ignore_distributor = 1
GO
Also, adding the reverse for the create script generation, IncludeInstallDistributor or InstallDistributor, does not add the below code.
use master
exec sp_adddistributor @distributor = N'xxxxxx', @password = N''
GO
The purpose of the script is simply to script out all drop/create scripts for all publications and subscriptions, run the drop script, restore over the databases using backups of non-replicated databases, run the create replication script, and have it re-sync.
param ([Parameter(Position=0, Mandatory=$true)] [ValidateNotNullOrEmpty()] [string] $Publisher,
[Parameter(Position=1, Mandatory=$true)] [ValidateNotNullOrEmpty()] [string] $Directory,
[Parameter(Position=2, Mandatory=$false)] [switch] $Create = $true,
[Parameter(Position=3, Mandatory=$false)] [switch] $Drop)
[code]....
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Jun 27, 2007
Hi Friends
What are the main differences between Sql Server 2000 Replication and Sql server 2005 Replication?
Thanks
Vic
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Aug 17, 2005
Where can i find some reference material on how to upgrade to 2005 in a replicated environment please?
does anyone know what order i need to tackle the servers, is it likely to be the same as the Service Pack process?
cheers
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May 4, 2006
Ok here is the deal...We have our current dev box running SQL 2000 SP3We have two new desktop boxes that we are using as a test, they are both running SQL 2005 SP1The Dev Box = PUBLISHERDesktop #1 = DISTRIBUTORDesktop #2 = SUBSCRIBERAll three SQL Servers are using the same Domain Account to run SQL Agent and SQL Server processes.When I try to create a publication from the publisher, while running the sp_addpublication step through the UI (or thru SQL Query Analyzer) I get the following error message:Msg 15404, Level 16, State 10, Procedure sp_grant_publication_access, Line 136Could not obtain information about Windows NT group/user 'crumpte', error code 0xffff0002.So as a test I tried using our subscriber box as the publisher and had it point to the same distributor box to act as a distributor - and the publication was created fine.It seems to be an issue using SQL 2k as the Publisher and SQL 2005 as the distributor. From the research that I have done, I found this KB article:http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?kbid=830596Which essentially says to install the latest SP for SQL 2k, which would be SP4, in the past I know there were issues with AWE memory allocation.Q1. Has SP4 been hotfixed to resolve this AWE issue?Q2. Has anyone here successfully setup replication from SQL 2k -> SQL 2005 using SQL 2005 as the distributor?Thanks!
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Oct 30, 2007
Dear All Is it possible to make replication beetwen:SQL 2005 as publisher & SQL 2000 as subscriber ? :shocked: Best RegardsPiotr
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Jan 17, 2006
Hi There
Currently in production we have a publisher, remote distributor, and subscriber all running 2000.
We
want to upgrade the subscriber and possibly the remote distributor to
2005 while leaving the publisher 200 for now, i need a good link or
article about the proper proceudre to accomplish this.
Thanx
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Apr 28, 2006
Hello,
I've got a simple transactional replication set up. I have a separate publisher, distributor, and subscriber with 76 articles (tables only) being pushed from the distributor.
I have this exact setup with the same tables and data working in the SQL 2000 environment. I am testing replication on our SQL 2005 test servers before moving to production, however when the distributor attempts to push out the initial snapshot I keep getting this error.
Error messages:
Incorrect syntax near ')'. (Source: MSSQLServer, Error number: 102)
Get help: http://help/102
Incorrect syntax near ')'. (Source: MSSQLServer, Error number: 102)
Get help: http://help/102
Incorrect syntax near the keyword 'end'. (Source: MSSQLServer, Error number: 156)
Get help: http://help/156
Anyone know anythign about it?
Thank you,
Aaron Lowe
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Oct 19, 2007
Hi All,
I have replication from SQL 2000 SP3 to SQL 2005 SP2 and now i am expereancing one strange problem, there are situations that last row of some tables(Articles) doesn't come to subscriber.For exmple i insert 50 rows and 49 are coming to subscriber and always it is last row(considered by my Primary key).Before then my replication model was SQL2000 SP3 -> SQL2000 SP3 and i didn't have such problems.
Can someone give me a clue?
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Nov 8, 2007
Hi,
I setup transactional replication between 2005-> 2000 database for only one table. It works fine no problem. I checked replication monitor everything works well.
My Subscription was Push Subscription on Publisher.
This morning I restored main database at publication server, I saw all my publication configuration were gone.
I then went to create a publication and push subscription again..and did it, But when I went to replication monitor.
I checked that Snapshot are being created, but from distributor to Subscriber is saying below message?
"The concurrent snapshot for publication is not available because it has not been fully generated.....lONG CHPPPED off meassage"
Can any body tell me hwo to get over this issue?
Many Thanks
SKR
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Apr 19, 2006
Hi everyone,
I'm currently trying to setup a SQL 2k (SP3, build 922) merge replication publisher and a push subscription to a SQL 2005 (RTM release, no hotfixes) subscriber. The distribution database resides on a separate SQL 2k server (SP3, build 1007). I get the error below leading me to believe merge replication is not compatible between versions.
Replication-agentclassname: agent Agent_Name failed. Procedure or function sp_MSupdatesysmergearticles has too many arguments specified..
I say this b/c I've tried SQL 2005 32-bit and x64 subscribers and both give the same error. Anyone have any ideas if this is by design or just a bug that will be fixed later? Thanks.
LSC
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Apr 17, 2008
Hi All,
Currently we use SQL 2K SP4 and snapshot replication with a Central Publisher with Remote Distributor toplogy.
I am looking to upgrade or migrate our SQL servers to SQL 2005 and was wondering what is the best way to do this for our replicated architecture?
Is the best way to run the SQL 2005 Upgrade on all 3 servers (publisher, distributor, subscriber) and should it automatically upgrade the servers including the replication components? Is there anything i should consider/watch out for when doing the upgrade and it involves replication (namely snapshot replication)?
Thanks in advance.
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Jun 27, 2006
We have developed a mobile system that uses merge replication for SQL Mobile to SQL 2005. Previously we have developed mutliple mobile systems using merge replication for SQL Ce to SQL 2000.
Based on the knowledge we had gathered over about 4 years, we applied the synchronisation parameters for the SQL 2005 solution as we would for the SQL 2000 solution.
We have found there are some differences. Not too surprising I suppose, only some of these have us a little baffled.
For instance, there was a little flag called keep_partition_changes in SQL 2000 that is supposedly superceded by the use_partition_groups flag. However, if you don't set up your filtering to conform to the standards required by the use_pre_computed_partitions flag if you want it set to true, then the use_partition_groups flag gets set to false - also the @partition_options falg gets set back to 0 (static or non-unique data) when we want it at 3 (Single Parition, One subscriber).
To top it all off, when you get the use_partition_groups flag working, there are restrictions on which columns you can update on the device. WTF? This seems ludicrous, to be unable to update data at the subscriber - particularly information that allows you to effectively "delete" data from your subscription.
Examples of the current behaviour are as follows,
On initialize for a subscriber, the subscriber will receive their own data as inserts, plus exact multiples of that data as updates. Say there are 100 rows in TableA, the subscriber gets 100 inserts, plus 6000 updates. TableB has 20 rows, the subscriber gets 20 inserts, 1200 updates.
Further to this, performance goes out the window when synchronising changes. Typically the data flow will be between 5 and 200 changes in both directions for a synchronisation. We are seeing sync times in the replication monitor of over 20 seconds per user. Surely the calculations do not take that long. The tables in the database are not very large.
This behaviour gets significantly worse as we load the system. The application has an auto sync function which is timed to operate evry 10 minutes. However, now that there is in excess of 50 or so users on the system, those synchronisation times blow out to multiple minutes and the server starts to thrash. We have looked at indexing and maintenance but to no avail.
Everything still points to the merge replication setup.
So, it seems obvious to me that we are mising some key information about how to set up merge replication in SQL 2005. We woudl be very gratefull if someone could point out the errors of our ways.
Sorry for the convoluted post. Hope someone can help us.
Cheers
Steve
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Jan 8, 2007
I have created the plication and push subscription on SQL 2000 by running sql scripts. I can view it through management console already.
but on SQL 2000 server, i dont' know how to start the snapshot agent and how to synchronize explicitly. In 2005, there is a system sp
sp_startpublication_snapshot @publication = @publication
can do the job. can you tell me how to do the same in the sql 2000?
additionally, I tried to use RMO to implement the replication. but it seems some of the classes only support 2005. doesnt' it means RMO can't be used to program on hybrid replication environment?
plz reply. thanks
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Mar 2, 2007
I have a publication on 2000 machine, replicating by pull subscription to a 2005 machine. I added a table to the Articles in the publication. Reinitialized the subscription, and also restarted both the snapshot and log reader agent. I was kind of assuming the publication would automatically create the table on the subscriber, but after a very long wait it is still not there. Am I missing anything?
PS. Distination Object setting : "Action if name is in use" is set to drop and create new, not that that should make any difference since name is not in use anyway.
Thanks
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Sep 25, 2006
Hi,
I was wondering if it is possible to setup replication between a 2005 SQL Publisher and a 2000 SQL Subscriber? Is there any special setup steps I need?
Thanks so much,
David
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Sep 15, 2006
I want to replicate data from sql server 2000 to a sql server express 2005 box.
I can dts data across..but I want to be able to set up push replication from the Sql Server 2000 box, but the option to push the data to the Sql Express server in the GUI does not come up only Sql Server 2000 boxes are listed. Initially I will be using Snapshot replication but would like to eventually move on to transactional rep if only I can get it to push the data across.
Does anyone know how to acheive this thanks for any help Sammy.
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Nov 23, 2005
Hi AllI know that if SQL 6.5 was on a server and you then install SQL 2000 on ityou get the wizard option to upgrade an SQL 6.5 DB to 2000, but I don't havethe luxury of this.I have an SQL 6.5 DB, which I want to convert, but only SQL 2000 on myserver.Do you know what options I have available to me to perform this upgrade withwhat I have? Are there any free external tools that can do this conversionfor me other than the switch wizard?Thanks
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Aug 3, 2006
Publisher is 2005 x64, subscribers SS2000 (SP3) and SS2005 x64. Pull agents, no filters on subscriptions. We are seeing many seemingly random conflicts on between SS2000 subscriber and publisher. It happens on several different tables.
One table is never editted, only inserts happening everywhere and deletes happening on the SS2000 subscriber. Deletes will sometimes generate conflict. Reason is '"he row was deleted at 'CTS11.CTS' but could not be deleted at 'cts4a.cts'. Unable to synchronize the row because the row was updated by a different process outside of replication." CTS11 is SS2000 subscriber, CTS4A is publisher.
Probably unrelated bug but when looking at conflicts on this same table in SS2005 conflict viewer, get error "ID is neither a DataColumn nor a DataRelation for table summary (System.dATA)" and then "Column ID does not belong to table summary (System.Data)". ID column is rowguid, only unusual thing about table is that it has varchar(8000) field plus some other fields.
Other tables generate conflicts with this reason "The row was updated at 'CTS11.CTS' but could not be updated at 'cts4a.cts'. The merge process was unable to synchronize the row." I enabled verbose logging in the merge agent but the log file didn't contain any further explanation.
This same topology and schema worked fine when all publishers and subscribers were SS2000.
Any insight into how to fix this would be appreciated.
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Dec 25, 2006
Hello!
We have a module in our business-application, that automatically installs merge replication of the business-application's database, both at publisher and subscribers. It's intended for Sql-2000. Now we need it to be applicable also for Sql-2005, so the module requires some changes, because, as we noticed, sql-2005's replication technology differs from Sql-2000's one.
A few questions to experts, familiar with Merge Replication in SQL-2005:
1. Is it possible to create hybrid replication, with publisher running at SQL-2000 (MSDE) and subscribers running at SQL-2005 Express? Merge publication is not supported in SQL 2005 Express, but some users may require option to use the application at free-of-charge database platform.
2. How deep are changes in merge replication implementation at system level? Is it just modified a bit since SQL-2000, or changed entirely? This knowledge is needed, because the module uses some low-level features (executing system sp's, querying replication-specified tables, etc.). For example, when we tried to create subscription of existing publication in SQL 2005 using the module as is, we found out that sp_addmergepullsubscription_agent doesn't use @encrypted_password parameter anymore, and subscription creation process failed.
3. If anybody has experience using merge replication creation/deletion/detection scripts, generated by SQL 2000, in SQL 2005! Please, tell - what more problems may happen?
Thanks!
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Aug 3, 2007
We have a SQL2000 database (Publisher) replicating inserts and updates across a 10Mb link to a SQL 2005 database (Subscriber). The Publisher has two tables we are interested in, 1 with 50 columns and 1 with 15. Both tables have 6 insert/update triggers that fire when a change is made to update columns on the publisher database.
We have set up a pull transactional replication from the Subscriber to occur against the Publisher every minute. We have limited the subscription/replication configuration to Publsih 6 columns from table 1 and 4 from table 2. Any change occuring on any other columns in the Publisher are of no interest. The SQL 2005 database has a trigger on table 1 and table 2 to insert values into a third table. There are around 7,000 insert/updates on table 1 and 28,000 on table 2 per day. All fields in the tables are text.
We are seeing "excessive" network traffic occuring of approximately 1MB per minute (approx 2GB per 24 hrs). We also see that the Distributor databases are getting very large -- upto around 30GB and growing until they get culled. We have reduced the culling intrval from 72 hrs to 24 hours to reduce the size.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how this "excessive" network traffic can be minimised and how the distributor database size can be minimised. I think that maybe they are both related?
Thanks,
Geoff
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Jun 26, 2007
Hello,
Are there any requirements that dictate the SQL Server version for the distribution agent for a SQL 2000 publisher with a transactional push subscription to a SQL 2005 subscriber?
Thanks in advance,
John
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Jun 13, 2006
We have two SQL Server 2005 production DB at remote sites. Due to network bandwidth issue, we need to replicate these DBs (publishers and distributers) to central corporate SQL 2000 DB (subscriber for backup and possible reporting (and in rare case as a failover server).
We would start out with backup from SQL 2000 db restored on remote SQL 2005 DBs. When we have DB issue on remote 2005 DB, we want to restore it from central corp. 2000 DB backup. Since two DBs are replicating to central DB, we DO NOT want combined db back up data on restored remote 2005 db. We can restore the db and delete unwanted data before we turn on replication from this restored server. So, this is not a problem.
The real problem is how to avoid snapshot replication (during initialization) when we create a transaction replication on this restored server to avoid over writing data on the central subcriber sql 2000 DB???
HELP!!
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Sep 21, 2007
Hello,
We previously having two servers A and B. Server A is used for updation of data and the data then replicated to server B. Server B is used for
Server A :
purpose : used for database updation/ modification
SQL Server version : SQL Server 2000 SP 2
Server Z :
purpose : used for Reporting
SQL Server version : SQL Server 2000 SP 2
We were doing Transactional replication from Server A to Server B.
Last month we have broght another server (Server B) with same hardware configuration but having SQL SERVER 2005 installed. This is to speed up our database update process. We have moved some of the database on this new server so that we can achieve our deadlines.
Server B :
purpose : used for database updation/ modification
SQL Server version : SQL Server 2005
I have set up the transactional replication from Server B to Server Z and replication works fine.
However, the issue is after it is started replicating from this new server (Server B) performance of all the queries reduced a lot.(making my life harder)
I didnt expected this as our reporting server is still SQL server 2000.
I have restored the backup of database which was replicated from server A (sql server 2000) and compared execution plan for one of our common query (which is used in most of the reports and which is now taking longer time to provide results)
I found that database which is replicated from Server B (Sql server 2005) is having primary keys. which was not present in the database which replicated from server A(Sql server 2000).
I have then removed the primary key and make the indexes same as previous copy of database(which was replicated from server A) But still the query takes long time.
Execution plan now shows "Table Spool" which was not present in previous copy of database.
Almost every query for this database is taking longer time now.
Can someone suggest me what is wrong and what should I need to fix.
Am I going on the right direction?
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Jul 20, 2005
ver: SQL-DMO Version: 8.00.760I have the option to automatically start SQL Server on startup, butwhen it does start up, the SQL Server Service Manager does not havethe green arrow indicating that it is active. When I double-click itto display the SQL Server Service Manager, it shows the name of theserver, but no services in the drop-down box.When I start Enterprise Manager I see an instance of MSDE wheresomeone installed an MSDE application. That is active. But I have to"connect" to the localhost. The instance name is the name of the MSDEapplication. I would like it to connect to the localhost on startup.Any ideas on how to correct this problem?Thanks,RBollinger
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Dec 10, 2007
My organization is currently migrating about 35 databases from SQL 2000 to SQL 2005. Most of the databases are small with the largest being about 6gb. These databases are not very transaction intensive. We are about half way through as we started the project a year ago. We purchased new hardware for this SQL 2005 so it is a side-by-side migration and it has been going well so far. I made one oversight which I think will come back to haunt us down the line. I installed Windows Server 2003 Standard R2 Edition and of course now I am considering putting more RAM in the server. We have 4 GB of RAM in the server and of course Standard Edition will not address more 4GB of physical ram. I have not seen any memory pressure yet but as databases are migrated over the amount of physical RAM drops. My buffer hit cahce ratio and page life expectancy performance counters are fine so far. The server is a brand new HP DL 380 G5 with with tons of disk and processing power, but only 4GB of RAM. I can't migrate to another server with more ram obviously.
1. What would you do in a situation like this?
2. I could do an in-place upgrade to Windows Server 2003 Enterprise R2. Has anyone attempted an in-place upgrade? I have no applications
on this server, just SQL 2005 Standard.
3. Would the /3gb switch be an option? I have heard mixed reviews on this one.
As far as database optimization, %75 of the databases are third party so we have little flexibility in tuning them or redesigning
tables.
Thanks,
Alex
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May 29, 2007
Hi All
Sorry about that naïve question but for some reason on one of my computers when I connect to Sql 2005 I don€™t have Edit option when right clicking on a view.
If I€™m connecting from another computer using same login it€™s all there.
Could you please help?
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May 22, 2006
Ok, here goes....
What exactly does a standard SQL 2005 license cover? I want to have 3 client stations entering data, one IIS serving up data to an unknown number of persons via a web page. Under the 1 server 5 CAL package would this setup be covered? or will I have to go the processor route? I might add that the user accessing via the web service would be on an intranet behind a firewall.
Thanks in advance!
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Oct 13, 2006
I printed out several pages of documentation regarding the install of 2005. When I tried performing the installation from CD I double-click splash.hta, as indicated in "How to: Install SQL Server 2005 (Setup)". Under Install I see two options:
Server components, tools, Books Online, and samples
Run the SQL Native Client Installation Wizard
The documentation indicates I should be clicking on "Run the SQL Server Installation Wizard", which is not an option. If I select "Run the SQL Native Client..." it appears to be only installing the client and does not follow the remainder of the instructions. I can't find any information on Microsoft's site on how to perform an install from CD.
I'm guessing I should be using the DVD, but has anyone else noticed the "How to" documentation is a little off and have you found any other documentation that is more accurate?
Thanks, Dave
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Jul 13, 2007
Why did Microsoft release a replacement for MSDE called SQL 2005 Express with Advanced Options without the SQL Agent? I bought into the MSDE and got rid of the other databases we supported now we have to go a create an equivilent to the SQL Agent for a) scheduled jobs b) backup automation. c) etc.
Does anybody really want a database that does not have these built in? I understand I can do these myself but this seems to defy logic to me?
thanks,
Larry
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Apr 25, 2008
Hi,,
when I open a connection to SQL Server 2005 (c#, VB.NET 2005, SQL Native Client) these setting are set (can see it in Profiler):
-- network protocol: TCP/IP
set quoted_identifier on
set arithabort off
set numeric_roundabort off
set ansi_warnings on
set ansi_padding on
set ansi_nulls on
set concat_null_yields_null on
set cursor_close_on_commit off
set implicit_transactions off
set language us_english
set dateformat mdy
set datefirst 7
set transaction isolation level read committed
I would like ARITHABORT to be ON. Have tryied to set it as a defaul in my database, but still the connection has OFF at this setting.
How can I force my C# code to set this option to ON during connection opening?
Thanks,
Przemo
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