Loopback Server Policy

Sep 10, 2006



Hello all,



Recently, we ran into the issue that you can't do an insert into..exec statement on a loopback linked server that was previously commented on in:

http://www.dbnewsgroups.net/link.aspx?url=http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=124137&SiteID=1

So, for example, if you have a linkedserver to a database that happens to be on the same server as the querying thread, it fails with the message 'context in use'.

The answer from the previous thread was, don't use linked servers when the database is on the same server.

However,

The enviornment in our production system is fairly dynamic -- operations can be expected to move databases around in response to load balancing issues. We were counting on linked servers to make certain (non-performance sensitive) queries without regard to where a given database was located. Accepting that we have to make an exception case where the database lives on the same server means we'll have to have two sets of queries for every case this happens.

Something like

(pseudocode)

If server of linkedserver <> @@server

Insert into table....

Exec linkedserver.database.dbo.sproc

Else

Insert Into Table

exec database.dbo.sproc

(end pseudocode)



This seems pretty kludgy to me -- any suggestions on how to better manage this situation?



Thanks in advance





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(I include the reproduce steps for the first error message, followed by my resolution that generates the second error message)
======
Reproduce steps for the first error message
======


On the ComputerAInstanceA instance, run the following statement to create a database and a table:
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GO
USE DatabaseA
GO
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GO
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GO
USE DatabaseB
GO
CREATE TABLE TestTable (Col1 int, Col2 varchar(50))
GO

On the ComputerAInstanceA instance, create a linked server that links to the ComputerBInstanceB instance. Assume the name of the linked server is LNK_ServerB.

On the ComputerBInstanceB instance, create a linked server that links to the ComputerAInstanceA instance. Assume the name of the linked server is LNK_ServerA.

On the ComputerBInstanceB instance, run the following statement:
USE DatabaseB
GO
CREATE PROCEDURE InsertA AS
BEGIN
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END
GO

On the ComputerAInstanceA instance, run the following statement:
USE DatabaseA
GO
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EXEC LNK_ServerB.DatabaseB.dbo.InsertA
GO
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=======
My resolution that generates the second error message
=======


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sp_addserver 'ComputerAInstanceA'
GO
sp_serveroption 'ComputerAInstanceA', 'Data Access', 'TRUE'
GO
USE DatabaseB
GO
CREATE PROCEDURE InsertA AS
BEGIN
SELECT * FROM [ComputerAInstanceA].DatabaseA.dbo.TestTable
END
GO

On the ComputerAInstanceA instance, run the following statement:
USE DatabaseA
GO
INSERT INTO TestTable
EXECUTE [ComputerBInstanceB].[DatabaseB].[dbo].[InsertA]
GO
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and TimeGenerated > '20130101010000.000000–000'

This works great in wbemtest.exe. My next step was to plug this into the policy condition expression as follows: IsNull(ExecuteWql ('Numeric', 'rootCIMV2', 'select EventCode from Win32_NTLogEvent where EventCode=6008 and Logfile="System" and TimeGenerated > "20130101010000.000000–000"'), 0)

When I try to manually evaluate this policy in SSMS, I receive an "Invalid Query" error message.I assume that SWbemDateTime isn't available to use inside Policy Based Management policies. All the examples of how to handle the kind of dynamic date creation I have seen are for use in PowerShell, VBScript, or SSIS. I've played with using DateDiff, DateAdd, and GetDate inside the query string, with no success.

Why does the ExecuteWql above fail?Is it at all possible to dynamically generate a datetime (say, 24 hours ago) as part of the query string parameter of the ExecuteWql call?What might that look like?

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