MSDE 2000 And Merge Modules
Jul 6, 2006
I have a vb.net desktop application that uses msde 2000 for its databasing. I am trying to create a setup file using the output of my desktop application and the msde 2000 merge modules in order to install my own build plus an instance of msde 2000.
The setup runs properly and then asks me to restart my machine. After the restart, however, there is no such instance running on my machine. I am adding the following internal properties to my msi file using ocra:
SQLMSDESelected 1
SqlInstanceName Midas
SqlSaPwd Password1
SqlSecurityMode SQL
SqlDataDir C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL$MidasData
SqlProgramDir C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server
This should create an instance of msde on my machine but when I try to connect using enterprize manager or query analizer (I connect to <<machinename>>Midas), then I get the standard can not connect error.
I am at my witt's end and would really appreciate any help.
Thanks.
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Jan 8, 2004
Hi all,
I am having a major issue installing SQL Server 2000 through InstallShield using the three merge modules sent with it (and available on the SQL Server CD) Being:
SQLBASE
SQLSVR
SQLSVR_RES
The install builds fine and runs right upto the end of the copying, where it pauses for a few seconds and comes back with a dialog saying
Product: SQL Object Installer -- Setup failed to configure the server. Refer to the server error logs and setup error logs for more information.
SQL Object Installer being the package I created
So I do this, only to find the following error log:
2004-01-08 09:58:40.65 server Microsoft SQL Server 2000 - 8.00.534 (Intel X86)
Nov 19 2001 13:23:50
Copyright (c) 1988-2000 Microsoft Corporation
Desktop Engine on Windows NT 5.0 (Build 2195: Service Pack 2)
2004-01-08 09:58:40.67 server Copyright (C) 1988-2000 Microsoft Corporation.
2004-01-08 09:58:40.67 server All rights reserved.
2004-01-08 09:58:40.67 server Server Process ID is 1588.
2004-01-08 09:58:40.67 server Logging SQL Server messages in file 'C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQLLOGERRORLOG'.
2004-01-08 09:58:40.68 server SQL Server is starting at priority class 'normal'(1 CPU detected).
2004-01-08 09:58:40.76 server SQL Server configured for thread mode processing.
2004-01-08 09:58:40.78 server Using dynamic lock allocation. [500] Lock Blocks, [1000] Lock Owner Blocks.
2004-01-08 09:58:40.98 spid3 Warning ******************
2004-01-08 09:58:40.98 spid3 SQL Server started in single user mode. Updates allowed to system catalogs.
2004-01-08 09:58:41.01 spid3 Starting up database 'master'.
2004-01-08 09:58:41.54 server Using 'SSNETLIB.DLL' version '8.0.534'.
2004-01-08 09:58:41.54 spid5 Starting up database 'model'.
2004-01-08 09:58:41.59 spid3 Server name is 'GROUPNETVISTA2'.
2004-01-08 09:58:41.59 spid3 Skipping startup of clean database id 5
2004-01-08 09:58:41.60 spid3 Skipping startup of clean database id 6
2004-01-08 09:58:41.60 spid3 Starting up database 'msdb'.
2004-01-08 09:58:41.84 spid5 Clearing tempdb database.
2004-01-08 09:58:42.10 server SQL server listening on 10.171.1.205: 1433.
2004-01-08 09:58:42.10 server SQL server listening on 127.0.0.1: 1433.
2004-01-08 09:58:42.60 spid5 Starting up database 'tempdb'.
2004-01-08 09:58:42.73 spid3 Recovery complete.
2004-01-08 09:58:42.73 spid3 SQL global counter collection task is created.
2004-01-08 09:58:42.74 spid3 Warning: override, autoexec procedures skipped.
2004-01-08 09:58:47.17 server SQL server listening on TCP, Shared Memory, Named Pipes.
2004-01-08 09:58:47.17 server SQL Server is ready for client connections
2004-01-08 09:58:56.67 spid3 SQL Server is terminating due to 'stop' request from Service Control Manager.
I am stumped, I am not really the greatest with SQL Server so I don't really know where to start, the SCM line at the bottom of the errorlog doesn't tell me much as I can't see what would be sending the 'stop' request?
Could this be a permissions thing. I have set myself as the administrator on the machine and do have quite a few rights. The machine does not already have SQL Server on it as it is a fresh image of Windows 2000 (also tried on XP wth same result)
Any help on this would be most appreciated as all around me are stumped too.
Thanks in advance.
Mark.
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Jan 24, 2007
Summary:
Failed to insert detail rows in master-detail scenario during merge replication. Not always, sometimes.
Topology:
I've got 5 servers running MSDE, one of them is central publisher/distributor for merge type of replication.
There is no row or column filtering: all subscribers have all data. Central publisher resolve conflicts with default revolvers.
Some tables have relations: master-detail (i.e. orders-ordersDetails, etc). Relations are defined in tables as FK.
My application which fills data use datasets with relations between tables defined the same way as in the sqlserver. So app first work with dataset which is unable to receive details without master record. When data updated to msde, it is done without errors, means master and details table updated correctly (tables at msde has relations too)
Applications running on 4 different locations and fill data to local db (subscriber to central publisher).
Sync occurs every 15 minutes in the following order (merge agents run at publisher/distributor):
subscriber1: every 15 minutes, starts at 00.00h
subscriber2: every 15 minutes, starts at 00.03h
subscriber3: every 15 minutes, starts at 00.06h
subscriber4: every 15 minutes, starts at 00.09h
Sync lasts for average 15 sec, never 3 min.
Problem details:
Message:
The row was inserted at 'CentPub.myDB' but could not be inserted at 'Sub2.MyDB'. INSERT statement conflicted
with COLUMN FOREIGN KEY constraint 'FK_OrdersDetails_Orders'. The conflict occurred in database 'MyDB',
table 'Orders', column 'OrderID'.
Description
CentPub is central publisher which just collecting data from subscribers. So, Order was made on one of the other subscribers different than Sub2, mean user at location3 insert order with details in local database, after a while, CentPub take this order to its database (MyDB), after that CentPub try to sync with some of the other subscribers (i.e. Sub2 == location2) and then for some unknown reason orderDeatils failed to insert in Sub2's orderDeatil table because constraint 'FK_OrdersDetails_Orders' conflict.
After that happened, thing goes like in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307482 (generally: in next session, failed order details are deleted
from CentPub, which means deleted from all subscribers after syncs.)
The problem is that subscribers have tables with relations, so Cause isn't as describe in MS kb because my tables have relations at all servers.
After finished replications I have Orders without details records at all subscribers, so I assume that merge agents sometimes (not always) try to insert details prior to master table during the same sync session.
In resolution section of MS kb article they say 'Mark the subscriber foreign key constraints as NOT FOR REPLICATION'.
In relations definition I see 'Enforce relationship for replication) options which is enabled in my tables.
If I turn that option off, is it possible to happen that my subscribers receive details without master record? (My observation of behavior says that will not happen(that will lead to problems in my app because my datasets enforce relations too).
Deleted record I bring back to life with conflict manager in EM, but I'd like it never happen.
Is it a bug, side effect or something I do it the wrong way?
Thanks and regards
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Sep 4, 2006
Hello!
I have a problem with creating Merge replication between two instances of MSDE 2000. In the article http://support.microsoft.com/kb/324992/, published by Microsoft, described, that it is possible.
I am creating Merge Publication at MSDE 2000, with Distributor and Publisher configured at same machine, with options "Allow Pull Subscriptions" and "Allow Anonymous Subscriptions". There is no problem with creating of Publication. Even snapshot generation finishes successfully. Also I create a login with SQL Server Authentication and "System Administrators" database role at the publisher in order to connect to it from Subscriber.
The problem occurs, when creating anonymous pull subscription to this publication at another instance of MSDE. During initial synchronization an error occurs:
The process could not connect to Distributor '<publisher_server_name>'. Login failed for user '<login_created_at_publisher>'. Reason: Not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection. The step failed.
Although I didn't use Windows Authentication at all, so Subscriber doesn't need to connect to Distributor using trusted SQL Server connection.
What is a problem and how can I workaround?
Note: The same works correctly, if MS SQL Server used as a Publisher instead of MSDE.
Please, help!
I can provide publication and subscription creation scripts, if required.
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Apr 3, 2007
Hi,
Our current environment is: SQL Server 2000 backend; XP/Windows 2000 clients with MSDE loaded; a Microsoft Access 2002 app using DSN to connect to the local MSDE database; Merge replication which is a job within the MSDE engine that we execute in VBA code using the following DMO code:
' Find the Job name to execute
lngJobCount = oServer.JobServer.Jobs.Count
lngJobIndex = 1
blFoundJob = False
While lngJobIndex <= lngJobCount And blFoundJob = False
strJobName = oServer.JobServer.Jobs.Item(lngJobIndex).Name
Me.lstJobs.AddItem strJobName, 0
If InStr(1, strJobName, "LEXData", vbTextCompare) > 0 Then
If InStr(1, strJobName, strServerName, vbTextCompare) Then
blFoundJob = True
End If
End If
lngJobIndex = lngJobIndex + 1
Wend
' Execute the job
If blFoundJib Then
Set oServer1 = New SQLDMO.SQLServer
With oServer1
.LoginSecure = True
.Connect strServerName
End With
Set oJob = oServer1.JobServer.Jobs(strJobName)
End If
We are now planning a move to a SQL Server 2005 backend and Express edition on the clients and the app would remain as Access 2002. Any pointers to documents that will be useful would be appreciated but I have a couple of specific questions as well.
1) As I understand it we can load Express side by side with MSDE so we will probably go down that path and load the data from MSDE into an Express version of the database. Once that's done we will create a DSN pointing to the new database and name it the same as the DSN which is currently used for the MSDE database. If we do this will our Access app simply work as before (ignoring replication)?
2) When we have our app happily running against a DSN that points to an Express database would we expect our existing DMO code (as above) to work, e.g. find a particular job in a list jobs and executes it? I can see that the replication job itself may have to be rejigged for Server 2005.
TIA - Peter
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Hello,
I have the following scenario. An application using SQL Server 2000 SP3 on the server side and clients using MSDE 2000A (SP3a) on the client machine. Since the client is offline quite often merge replication is used to keep the clients in sync.
Now we try to upgrade to SQL Server 2005 SP1. The publisher and distributor upgrade (on the same box) worked fine and all clients could still synchronize. Fine :-)
Now we try to upgrade the clients to SQL Express SP1. Now the problems start :-(
1) After the upgrade the entry within the Synchronization Manager is gone (we can overcome this by using sp_MSregistersubscription or by manually disable and enable Synchronization manager on the subscription properties)
2) Initial Synchronization (takes a long time but) works fine, if I apply changes to the subscriber or force a reinitialize all following synchronization will fail. With the following messages:
Error messages:
The merge process could not clean up the subscription to 'tstvmw23':'TestBase:'TestBase'. (Source: MSSQL_REPL, Error number: MSSQL_REPL-2147200965)
Get help: http://help/MSSQL_REPL-2147200965
New request is not allowed to start because it should come with valid transaction descriptor. (Source: MSSQLServer, Error number: 3989)
Get help: http://help/3989
Remark the test system I use is a nearly empty db (only with full schema and a few lookup tables) with 15MB. The same error occures if I create a new database an subscribe to the same publication.
Please help otherwise I'm forced to step back to MSDE.
Thanks in advance,
Thomas Hotz
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Parameter
Access 2000/XP
SQL Server 7.0
SQL Server 2000
MSDE 2000
Number of instances per server
n/a
n/a
16
16
Number of databases per instance / server
n/a
32,767
32,767
32,767
Number of objects per database
32,768
2,147,483,647
2,147,483,647
2,147,483,647
Number of users per database
n/a
16,379
16,379
16,379
Number of roles per database
n/a
16,367
16,367
16,367
Overall size of database (excluding logs)
2 GB
1,048,516 TB
1,048,516 TB
2 GB
Number of columns per table
255
1024
1024
1024
Number of rows per table
limited by storage
limited by storage
limited by storage
limited by storage
Number of bytes per row
(Excluding TEXT/MEMO/IMAGE/OLE)
2 KB
8 KB
8 KB
8 KB
Number of columns per query
255
4,096
4,096
4,096
Number of tables per query
32
256
256
256
Size of procedure / query
64 KB
250 MB
250 MB
250 MB
Number of input params per procedure / query
199
1,024
2,100
2,100
Size of SQL statement / batch
64 KB
64 KB
64 KB
64 KB
Depth of subquery nesting
50
32
32
32
Number of indexes per table
32
250 (1 clustered)
250 (1 clustered)
250 (1 clustered)
Number of columns per index
10
16
16
16
Number of characters per object name
64
128
128
128
Number of concurrent user connections
255
32,767
32,767
5
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Hi There,
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CONNECTIONOPEN(CONNECT())
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Hi folks!
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http://www.dorst.de/sql.jpg
Here is the setup.ini
[Options]
TARGETDIR="C:ProgrammeMSDE2000"
DATADIR="C:ProgrammeMSDE2000Daten"
SAPWD="*****"
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DISABLENETWORKPROTOCOLS=0
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THX !!!!!
Bye
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Hello to everyone.
I'm looking for an help :(
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