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Hello guys! I have to develop a new web based project. It's a web
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webpages are developed under .NET 1.1.

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//////////////--Form9.vb---/////////////////

mports System.Data.SqlClient

Imports System.Data

Public Class Form9

Dim cnn1 As New SqlConnection

Private Sub Form5_Load(ByVal sender As Object, ByVal e As System.EventArgs) Handles Me.Load

'Compute top-level project folder and use it as a prefix for

'the primary data file

Dim int1 As Integer = InStr(My.Application.Info.DirectoryPath, "bin")

Dim strPath As String = Microsoft.VisualBasic.Left(My.Application.Info.DirectoryPath, int1 - 1)

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"FirstName nvarchar(15), " & _

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cmd1.ExecuteNonQuery()

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MessageBoxButtons.OK, MessageBoxIcon.Information)

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MessageBox.Show(ex.Message)

Finally

cnn1.Close()

End Try

End Sub

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MessageBoxButtons.OK, MessageBoxIcon.Information)

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MessageBox.Show(ex.Message)

Finally

cnn1.Close()

End Try

End Sub

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Dim RowForExcel As DataRow

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Dim strPath As String = _

Microsoft.VisualBasic.Left( _

My.Application.Info.DirectoryPath, _

InStr(My.Application.Info.DirectoryPath, "bin") - 1)

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'RowForExcel DataRow for adding to FromExcel

'Rows collection

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Try

currentRow = crd1.ReadFields()

Dim currentField As String

Dim int1 As Integer = 1

RowForExcel = FromExcel.NewRow

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Select Case int1

Case 1

RowForExcel("FirstName") = currentField

Case 2

RowForExcel("LastName") = currentField

Case 3

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End Select

int1 += 1

Next

int1 = 1

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RowForExcel = FromExcel.NewRow

Catch ex As Microsoft.VisualBasic.FileIO.MalformedLineException

MsgBox("Line " & ex.Message & _

"is not valid and will be skipped.")

End Try

Loop

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'object to populate FromExcel table in the database with

'the FromExcel DataTable in the project

Try

cnn1.Open()

Using sqc1 As SqlBulkCopy = New SqlBulkCopy(cnn1)

sqc1.DestinationTableName = "dbo.FromExcel"

sqc1.WriteToServer(FromExcel)

End Using

Catch ex As Exception

MessageBox.Show(ex.Message)

Finally

cnn1.Close()

End Try

'Read the FromExcel table and display results in

'a message box

Dim strQuery As String = "SELECT * " & _

"FROM dbo.FromExcel "

Dim str1 As String = ""

Dim cmd1 As New SqlCommand(strQuery, cnn1)

cnn1.Open()

Dim rdr1 As SqlDataReader

rdr1 = cmd1.ExecuteReader()

Try

While rdr1.Read()

str1 += rdr1.GetString(0) & ", " & _

rdr1.GetString(1) & ", " & _

rdr1.GetSqlInt32(2).ToString & ControlChars.CrLf

End While

Finally

rdr1.Close()

cnn1.Close()

End Try

MessageBox.Show(str1, "FromExcel")

End Sub

End Class
//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
I got the following error messages:
SecurityException was unhandled
Request for the permission of type 'System. Security. Permissions.FileIOPermission,mscorlib, Version=2.0.0.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089'failed that is pointing to the code statement "Dim int1 As Integer = InStr (My.Application.Info.DirectoryPath, "bin")."
Troubleshooting tips:
Store application data in isolated storage.
When deploying an Office solution, check to make sure you have fulfilled all necessary requirments.
Use a certificate to obtain the required permission(s).
If an assembly implementing the custom security references other assemblies, add the referenced assemblies to the full trust assembly list.
Get general help for the exception.

I am a new Microsoft VS.NET Express user to do the SQL Server 2005 Express and VB 2005 Express programming by using the example of a tutorial book. Please help and tell me what is wrong in my SQLCLR sep-up and project coding and how to correct the problems.

Many Thanks in advance,
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sqlstate=01000, level=0, state=1, native_error=0, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Signing sps ...
sqlstate=42000, level=16, state=1, native_error=15119, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Password validation failed. The password does not meet the requirements of the password filter DLL.
sqlstate=HY000, level=0, state=0, native_error=0, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client]Unspecified error occurred on SQL Server. Connection may have been terminated by the server.
sqlstate=42000, level=16, state=2, native_error=2745, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Process ID 51 has raised user error 50000, severity 20. SQL Server is terminating this process.
sqlstate=HY000, level=20, state=127, native_error=50000, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Cannot create ##MS_AgentSigningCertificate## in msdb. INSTMSDB.SQL terminating.
Error Code: 15119
MSI (s) (08!80) [10:56:13:133]: PROPERTY CHANGE: Adding SqlUpgradeMessage property. Its value is 'SQL Server Setup has encountered the following problem: [Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Password validation failed. The password does not meet the requirements of the password filter DLL.. To continue, correct the problem, and then run SQL Server Setup again.'.
SQL Server Setup has encountered the following problem:
Failed to execute the Transact-SQL statement:
/**************************************************************/
/* Sign agent sps and ...
Script file: sqlagent90_msdb_upgrade.sql
The error was: [Microsoft][SQL Native Client][SQL Server]Password validation failed. The password does not meet the requirements of the password filter DLL.. To continue, correct the problem, and then run SQL Server Setup again.
SQL_ERROR (-1) in OdbcHandle::release
sqlstate=HY010, level=-1, state=-1, native_error=0, msg=[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Function sequence error
SQL_ERROR (-1) in OdbcHandle::release
sqlstate=HY010, level=-1, state=-1, native_error=0, msg=[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Function sequence error
SQL_ERROR (-1) in OdbcHandle::release
sqlstate=HY010, level=-1, state=-1, native_error=0, msg=[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Function sequence error
Error Code: 0x80073b0f (15119)
Windows Error Text: Source File Name: libodbc_statement.h
Compiler Timestamp: Wed Jun 14 16:28:15 2006
Function Name: OdbcStatement::execute_batch@sqlagent90_msdb_upgrade.sql@967
Source Line Number: 91
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The registry entries suggest that the version now is 9.00.3042.0. However, I am not sure if the upgrade was successful. I can connect to the database using the old SA user ID and password.

If anyone else has faced similar issues, please let me know the workaround for the same.

Thanks and Regards,
Sahil Girotra



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