MSDE Db Backup To SQL Express
Oct 1, 2007
Hi everyone!
We are trying to restore a database backup created o MSDE 2000 server to SQL Express 2005.
The collation settings of both SQL Express and MSDE are the same: Turkish_CI_AS
The problem is that the log of restore operation has some warnings like:
Processed 344 pages for database 'MYDB', file 'MYDB_Data' on file 1.
Processed 1 pages for database 'MYDB', file 'MYDB_Log' on file 1.
Converting database 'MYDB' from version 539 to the current version 611.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 539 to version 551.
Warning: The index "myt_idx01" on "dbo"."myt" may be impacted by the
collation upgrade. Run DBCC CHECKTABLE.
Warning: The index "PK_BankLDef" on
"dbo"."BankLDef" may be impacted by the collation
upgrade. Run DBCC CHECKTABLE.
Warning: The index "AgreeHist_idx1" on
"dbo"."AgreeHist" may be impacted by the collation upgrade.
Run DBCC CHECKTABLE.
....
....
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 551 to version 552.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 552 to version 553.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 553 to version 554.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 554 to version 589.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 589 to version 590.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 590 to version 593.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 593 to version 597.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 597 to version 604.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 604 to version 605.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 605 to version 606.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 606 to version 607.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 607 to version 608.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 608 to version 609.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 609 to version 610.
Database 'MYDB' running the upgrade step from version 610 to version 611.
RESTORE DATABASE successfully processed 345 pages in 0.420 seconds
(6.712 MB/sec).
What is the severity of this warnings? Is there a way to make them disappear?
Thanks in Advance.
Adnan
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Jul 19, 2004
Hi all;
Is it possible to make a backup from MSDE ?? (Y/N)
The problem: I am going to develop an application for a small company and it don't like to spend more $$ rather than some $$ for the App.
So, I don't know if it is possible to do a backup from MSDE or not?
BTW: How much MS SQL Sever200 will cost per a PC? (any idea even approx.)??
Thanks in advanced!
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I am looking to add "Make Bakup" and "Make Restore" functionalty in my applicayion menu which uses MSDE for database.
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Hi,
we have about 12 databases in an MSDE server.
We can install the enterprise manager, but cant get the maintenance plans to work. (fields stay empty and setting dont get saved)
I've searched a bit, but couldn't fix it.
No problem, i created a job, with 12 T-SQL commands, and the backups are working perfect.
Now we wanne backup with a history (we take a backup every 4 hours of the day), because now they always get overwritten.
So im trying to change my transactSQL to create dynamic files.
The code i'm using right now :
BACKUP DATABASE PW0001A00 TO DISK = 'C:SQLBACKUPPW0001A00.BAK' WITH INIT, NOUNLOAD, NOSKIP, STATS=10, NOFORMAT
I've tried different things like
BACKUP DATABASE PW0001A00 TO DISK = 'C:SQLBACKUPPW0001A00' + DATEPART(month, GETDATE()) + '.BAK' WITH INIT, NOUNLOAD, NOSKIP, STATS=10, NOFORMAT
but nothing worked.
so basically I wanne be able to create dynamic filenames in the above command.
You got any ideas/solutions.
tnx.
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All,
I wanted to to detach a DB say MyDB from MSDE and wanted to attach it to SQL Express.
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Please help me out!!
Here is the code which I have written.
if SUCCEEDED(hr = CoCreateInstance (CLSID_SQLDMOServer, NULL, CLSCTX_INPROC_SERVER,
IID_ISQLDMOServer, (LPVOID*)&pSQLServer))
{
pSQLServer->SetLoginSecure (TRUE);
SQLDMO_LPCSTR DB = OLESTR("MyDB");
//Connect to MSDE First
if SUCCEEDED(hr = pSQLServer->Connect (szDbServer, szUserName, szPassword))
{
pSQLServer->DetachDB(DB,lpszResult); //Detach the DB
pSQLServer->DisConnect(); //Disconnect MSDE
LPBSTR lpszResult2 = NULL;
long lNumDB;
//Connect to SQL 2005
if SUCCEEDED(hr = pSQLServer->Connect (szSQLExpDbServer, szUserName, szPassword))
{
//LPCOLESTR lpo = A2COLE(sTemp);
//sTemp.operator LPCTSTR
pSQLServer->GetDatabaseCount (&lNumDB);
SQLDMO_LPCSTR files = OLESTR("C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQLData\MyDB.mdf,C:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\MyDB_log.ldf");
pSQLServer->AttachDB(DB,files,lpszResult2); // Attach the DB to SQL 2005
pSQLServer->DisConnect(); // Disconnect SQL 2005}
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