MSDE Running Much Slower Than Access DB??
Feb 19, 2004
I have a large VB 6.0 application running with Jet 4.0 Access DB. I am considering moving the DB to MSDE. For testing, I installed MSDE on another computer in a peer to peer network running XP sp1, loaded up the DB from Access to MSDE2000A -- all without problem. (I should add the obvious fact I am new to using SQL server.)
What I find is that with a relatively small test DB, running just a single instance of the application, query response from MSDE is taking several seconds (4-5 second lag) longer than response from the Access DB, which runs extremely fast. This is with the Access DB installed on the same network drive, running the same application and the same queries syntax -- only changing configuration of connection for each (SQL vs Jet 4).
Any clues as to what may be going on? The lag time is unacceptable. I am using SQL password instead of NT security. It seems the process is perhaps lagging in the process of authorization.
Thanks for any suggestions or ideas on this.
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Mar 14, 2008
One of my stored procs, taking one parameter, is running about 2+ minutes. But if I run the same script in the stored proc with the same parameter hardcoded, the query only runs in a couple of seconds. The execution plans are different as well. Any reason why this could happen? TIA.
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Jan 30, 2008
I want to view the sample databases within Access 2003. When I try to view them an error message appears saying I need MSDE 2000 but this will not run on Windows Vista which is my operating system. What do I need to view the sample database as well as develop applications within Access using SQL server?
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Jun 12, 2002
Ok,
here's a funky one That I can't find an expanation for. If I go into EM and choose a table from a database and return all rows, I get immediate results and can start browsing records. If I go into query analyzer and do a select * on the same table, it takes up to 20-25 minutes to return the result set. This used to only take like 5 mins. What gives? Anyone seen this before?
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May 27, 2000
I am trying to change the computer name of a machine running MSDE but I get an error when SQL Server starts. With regular SQL when I change the name of a computer I re-run setup and setup fixes this problem. MSDE can only be installed from unattended mode so I can’t rerun setup and fix the problem.
My question is "How do I change the name of a computer running MSDE with out reinstalling MSDE"
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Jul 20, 2005
I am begginner at best so I hope someone that is better can help.I have a stored procedure that updates a view that I wrote using 2cursors.(Kind of a Inner Loop) I wrote it this way Because I couldn'tdo it using reqular transact SQL.The problem is that this procedure is taking longer and longer to run.Up to 5 hours now! It is anaylizing about 30,000 records. I thinkpartly because we add new records every month.The procedure works like this.The first Cursor stores a unique account and duedate combination fromthe view.It then finds all the accts in the view that have that account duedatecombo and loads them into Cursor 2 this groups them together for datamanipulation. The accounts have to be grouped this way because aaccount can have different due dates and multiple records within eachaccount due date combo and they need to be looked at this way aslittle singular groups.Here is my procedure I hope someone can shead some light on this. Myboss is giving me heck about it. (I think he thinks Girls cant code!)I got this far I hope someone can help me optimize it further.CREATE PROCEDURE dbo.sp_PromiseStatusASBEGINSET NOCOUNT ON/* Global variables */DECLARE @tot_pay moneyDECLARE @rec_upd VARCHAR(1)DECLARE @todays_date varchar(12)DECLARE @mActivityDate2_temp datetimeDECLARE @tot_paydate datetime/* variables for cursor ACT_CUR1*/DECLARE @mAcct_Num1 BIGINTDECLARE @mDueDate1 datetime/* variables for ACT_CUR2 */DECLARE @mAcct_Num2 BIGINTDECLARE @mActivity_Date2 datetimeDECLARE @mPromise_Amt_1 moneyDECLARE @mPromise_Status varchar(3)DECLARE @mCurrent_Due_Amt moneyDECLARE @mDPD intDECLARE @mPromise_Date datetimeSELECT @todays_date =''+CAST(DATEPART(mm,getdate()) AS varchar(2))+'/'+CAST(DATEPART(dd,getdate()) AS varchar(2))+'/'+CAST(DATEPART(yyyy,getdate()) AS varchar(4))+''DECLARE ACT_CUR1 CURSOR FORSELECT DISTINCTA.ACCT_NUM,A.DUE_DATEFROM VWAPPLICABLEPROMISEACTIVITYRECORDS AOPEN ACT_CUR1FETCH NEXT FROM ACT_CUR1 INTO @mAcct_Num1 , @mDueDate1WHILE (@@FETCH_STATUS = 0)BEGINSELECT @rec_upd = 'N 'DECLARE ACT_CUR2 CURSOR FORSELECTB.ACCT_NUM,B.ACTIVITY_DATE,B.PROMISE_AMT_1,B.PROMISE_STATUS,B.CURRENT_DUE_AMT,B.DAYS_DELINQUENT_NUM,B.PROMISE_DATE_1FROM VWAPPLICABLEPROMISEACTIVITYRECORDS B (UPDLOCK)WHERE B.ACCT_NUM = @mAcct_Num1ANDB.DUE_DATE = @mDueDate1ORDER BY B.ACCT_NUM,B.DUE_DATE,B.ACTIVITY_DATE,CASEB.Time_ObtainedWHEN 0 THEN 0ELSE 1END Desc, B.Time_ObtainedOPEN ACT_CUR2FETCH NEXT FROM ACT_CUR2INTO @mAcct_Num2 ,@mActivity_Date2,@mPromise_Amt_1,@mPromise_Status ,@mCurrent_Due_Amt,@mDPD,@mPromise_DateWHILE (@@FETCH_STATUS = 0)BEGIN----CHECK------------------------------------------------------------------------DECLARE @PrintVariable2 VARCHAR (8000)--SELECT @PrintVariable2 = CAST(@MACCT_NUM2 AS VARCHAR)+''+CAST(@MACTIVITY_DATE2 AS VARCHAR)+' '+CAST(@MPROMISE_AMT_1 ASVARCHAR)+' '+CAST(@MPROMISE_STATUS AS VARCHAR)+''+CAST(@mCurrent_Due_Amt AS VARCHAR)+' '+CAST(@mDPD AS VARCHAR)+''+CAST(@mPromise_Date AS VARCHAR)--PRINT @PrintVariable2----ENDCHECK------------------------------------------------------------IF @mDPD >= 30BEGINSELECT @tot_pay = SUM(CONVERT(FLOAT, C.PAY_AMT))FROM vwAplicablePayments CWHERE C.ACCT_NUM = @mAcct_Num2ANDC.ACTIVITY_DATE >= @mActivity_Date2ANDC.ACTIVITY_DATE < @mActivity_Date2 + 15----CHECK------------------------------------------------------------------------DECLARE @PrintVariable3 VARCHAR (8000)--SELECT @PrintVariable3 ='Greater=30 DOLLARS COLLECTED'--PRINT @PrintVariable3----ENDCHECK------------------------------------------------------------ENDELSE IF @mDPD < 30BEGINSELECT @tot_pay = SUM(CONVERT(FLOAT, C.PAY_AMT))FROM vwAplicablePayments CWHERE C.ACCT_NUM = @mAcct_Num2ANDC.ACTIVITY_DATE >= @mActivity_Date2ANDC.ACTIVITY_DATE BETWEEN @mActivity_Date2 AND@mPromise_Date + 5----CHECK----------------------------------------------------------------------DECLARE @PrintVariable4 VARCHAR (8000)--SELECT @PrintVariable4 ='Less 30 DOLLARS COLLECTED'--PRINT @PrintVariable4----END CHECK------------------------------------------------------------END----------------------------------------MY REVISEDLOGIC-------------------------------------------------------IF @rec_upd = 'N'BEGINIF @mDPD >= 30BEGINSELECT @mActivityDate2_temp = @mActivity_Date2 + 15--DECLARE @PrintVariable5 VARCHAR (8000)--SELECT @PrintVariable5 =' GREATER= 30 USING ACTVITY_DATE+15'--PRINT @PrintVariable5ENDELSE IF @mDPD < 30BEGINSELECT @mActivityDate2_temp = @mPromise_Date + 5--DECLARE @PrintVariable6 VARCHAR (8000)--SELECT @PrintVariable6 =' LESS 30 USING PROMISE_DATE+5'--PRINT @PrintVariable6ENDIF @tot_pay >= 0.9 * @mCurrent_Due_Amt--used to be promise amtBEGINUPDATE VWAPPLICABLEPROMISEACTIVITYRECORDSSET PROMISE_STATUS = 'PK',TOTAL_DOLLARS_COLL = @tot_payWHERE CURRENT OF ACT_CUR2--This statement updates the time that the status was placedinto PK.IF @mPromise_Status IN ('PTP','OP')BEGINUPDATE VWAPPLICABLEPROMISEACTIVITYRECORDSSET Status_Date = @todays_dateWHERE CURRENT OF ACT_CUR2ENDSELECT @rec_upd = 'Y 'ENDIF ((@tot_pay < 0.9 * @mCurrent_Due_Amt) OR @tot_pay IS NULL)AND( @mActivityDate2_temp > @todays_date )--need to put 1dayof month here for snapshot9/01/2004BEGINUPDATE VWAPPLICABLEPROMISEACTIVITYRECORDSSETPROMISE_STATUS = 'OP'WHERE CURRENT OF ACT_CUR2--This statement updates the time that the status was placedinto OP which is the original Activity Date.--The record will hold this date until it goes into PK,PB,orIP.IF @mPromise_Status IN ('PTP','OP')BEGINUPDATE VWAPPLICABLEPROMISEACTIVITYRECORDSSET Status_Date = @mActivity_Date2WHERE CURRENT OF ACT_CUR2ENDENDELSE IF ((@tot_pay < 0.9 * @mCurrent_Due_Amt) OR @tot_pay ISNULL)AND( @mActivityDate2_temp <= @todays_date )--need to put 1dayof month here for snapshot 9/01/2004BEGINUPDATE VWAPPLICABLEPROMISEACTIVITYRECORDSSETPROMISE_STATUS = 'PB',TOTAL_DOLLARS_COLL = case when @tot_pay is nullthen 0 else @tot_pay endWHERE CURRENT OF ACT_CUR2--This statement updates the time that the status was placedinto PB.IF @mPromise_Status IN ('PTP','OP')BEGINUPDATE VWAPPLICABLEPROMISEACTIVITYRECORDSSET Status_Date = @todays_dateWHERE CURRENT OF ACT_CUR2ENDENDENDELSE IF @rec_upd = 'Y'BEGINUPDATE VWAPPLICABLEPROMISEACTIVITYRECORDSSETPROMISE_STATUS = 'IP',TOTAL_DOLLARS_COLL = 0WHERE CURRENT OF ACT_CUR2--This statement updates the time that the status was placedinto IP.IF @mPromise_Status NOT IN ('IP')BEGINUPDATE VWAPPLICABLEPROMISEACTIVITYRECORDSSET Status_Date = @todays_dateWHERE CURRENT OF ACT_CUR2ENDENDFETCH NEXT FROM ACT_CUR2 INTO @mAcct_Num2,@mActivity_Date2,@mPromise_Amt_1,@mPromise_Status ,@mCurrent_Due_Amt,@mDPD,@mPromise_DateENDCLOSE ACT_CUR2DEALLOCATE ACT_CUR2FETCH NEXT FROM ACT_CUR1 INTO @mAcct_Num1 , @mDueDate1ENDCLOSE ACT_CUR1DEALLOCATE ACT_CUR1SET NOCOUNT OFFENDGO
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Jun 27, 2001
Hi,
We have recently upgraded our production server from a dual pentium II 400mhz server with 384Mb of RAM to a triple 700mhz Pentium III system with 2gb of RAM . However, since switching over, all of our Access queries on the SQL7 databases are either running extremely slowly or not at all despite the DSN's being set up correctly . Does anyone have any ideas why, and more importantly, how I can resolve this???
Thanks
Pete Burton
(IT Support)
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Mar 1, 2008
hi, friends, please look at this:
I have a SSIS package, and inside it I do something like below:
1. I have a SQL component, to give back a object to store the records.
2. I have a VB script component, I direct the object I got in 1 step into the script as a dataset.
My problem is:
I run the package in the SQL SERVER 2005 Store Procedue like this:
do
dtexec.exe package.dtsx
loop untill i>t
I control the it runs 30 times. But I found that the speed is slower and slower.
the first time, it takes about 600 s, but the last time, it takes the 1800 s.
Why?
The package don't drop the object it create during the loop in the Store Procedue ?
Thanks!
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How can I check to be sure that the MSDE is installed properly and that it is running?
Should I be able to see the Service Manger in the tray?
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Without the Client Network Utility that is available in the full blown MSSQL Server is there a way to find out what port the MSDE is running on?Short and sweet, thats all I needTIA
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Currently I am running MSDE on a webserver. The MSDE was installed by a software package for web survey's. I am wondering if SQL express will interfere with this installation? Would I be better to install MySQL instead?
The problem I am trying to solve is simply giving a web developer some database space so that he can connect his web app to store some data. I'm kind of a n00b at this so I thought SQL express would be the best route. If I'm headed in the wrong direction can someone point me the right way?
Cheers!
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Hi,
I am developing an application that uses Access database (mdb file) to store the user data. The user of this application is not interested in the database file (to view in MS Access Environment). Does the user machine requires MS Access installation to run my application or just some couple of dlls (OleDB driver, Access DB Engine,..) should be enough to run my application?
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Hello,
I have one program using MSDE as database. It runs OK on the machine with MSDE or without MSDE.
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Form SQL Server Server Manager: my instance ...MYINSTANCE and ...SQLEXPRESS are both running OK.
Why not connect to my MSDE instance under this situation? Could anyone give me any advice?
Thanks,
Dennis
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Jan 23, 2007
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1. somehow i need to know whether to upgrade a client computer CONNECTIVITY COMPONENTS from 2000 to 2005?
2. is there a way to enable tcp/ip in installation script of SQL Express?
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Apr 14, 2004
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Hi,
I don't have Visual Studio, so I'm using web matrix and MSDE. My question is, how do I get to MSDE? I don't have the enterprise manager that comes with SQL Server. Thanks
amit
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Jul 27, 2005
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Aug 13, 2005
Hi i am upsizing a db from access to msde. I provide it a username and password.
But when i try to connect to the db in Visual Studio i get this error
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Feb 29, 2000
Hi,
I have a customer with Office 2000 and uses Access 2000. I normally use SQL/7, but for this job would it be save to use MSDE on the web site so the customer can upload and download the MSDE file for product information? I use SQL/7 for the backend. Please advise.
Duane
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Sep 12, 2005
hi,
I have a database in MSDE. Now if I create a database in Access, is it possible to import the msde tables into Access. probably not right?
Thanks
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Jul 1, 2004
Does anyone know if it is possible to replicate a database from MSDE to Access 2002??
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Jul 22, 2004
Hi all
I have MSDE installed on my machine to support off-line use of a web application.
The database (MDF) file in question is stored on an encrypted area of my hard drive, which must be unlocked each time the machine starts up by the user entering a password.
Unfortunately, by this time the SQL Server service has already started, and although it still lists the database along with master, etc, it cannot access it. I believe the error mentions that some files are unavailable.
Stopping and restarting SQL Server using Service Manager fixes this problem. However, this can only be done when logged in as Administrator. I need to find a solution for normal users without Admin privileges.
Is there any other way of making the now-unlocked MDF file available to SQL Server? I thought about using SQLDMO to Refresh databases, but no joy.
This is a real show stopper for my application, which I've spent three years developing! It goes without saying that I'm writing this message with a long face. If anybody has any suggestions I would be very happy to hear from you!
Best wishes
Rob
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Jul 20, 2005
Hi everyone,In using the SQL Server Database Wizard in Access 2000 to create a newaccess project, I get two consecutive error messages and then the wizardshuts down. The first, which apprears immediately after starting the wizardis a message box stating something like "the property value is too large".After clicking through and filling out the values in the connection anddatabase dialog, I get a second dialog box with the message "Overflow" andthe wizard terminates.My operating system is Windows 2000 Professional with Access 2000 and MSDE2000.Does anyone have any thoughts about what might be causing these errors?Thanks in advance.
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Jul 20, 2005
I want to move my Access 2K database into MSDE. The Access UpsizingWizard crashes (a known bug wi A2K), so I'm using the followingsuggested method:Access --> New --> Project (Existing Database)This asks for the name of the .adp file to create and then launchesinto the Data Link Properties dialog box (so far so good) I select myMSDE server from the drop-down, enter the sa account & passwd, attacha database file and try to select the .adp file that was just created.Unfortunately, the "Select SQL Server Database File" dialog is lookingfor an .MDF file, not an .ADP file.If I try to kludge it and select the .adp file anyway, the TestConnection produces an error:"Test connection failed because of an error in initializingprovider. The header file "D: est.adp" is not a valid database fileheader. The FILE SIZE property is incorrect."Any suggestions on how to proceed?Note:I've got Access 2000 SP1, Visual Studio.Net 2002, MSDE and SQL WebAdministrator running on XP Prof SP2.
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May 22, 2004
I know that SQL Server cost plenty to license for internet use...per year. But is there the same costs for MSDE and/or Access? I was recently told that every internet user would have to have a license to use a site that had Access as the database. I'm really not sure how true that is or if its MS support fobbing me off. Anyone know?
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Oct 13, 2004
hi,
I need to choose a database based on the following criteria (using .NET app):
1) a light but fully functional database, preferably with the support of store proc and constraints, less than 8000 transaction a day.
2) portable or the database can be export/import very easily
3) reliable and stable
4) least maintenance
I have two db in my mind, Access and MSDE?
Does anyone have some hand-ons experience on the above two? Or any other better suggestions?
Any advice is appreciated.
thanks,
bryan
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Mar 5, 2005
I have an mircosoft access database, but now i want to attach it to MSDE, how can i do impliment this????
i already try to use the following commands
exec sp_attach_db 'example','c:example.mdb'
but i got the following error message
The header of this file 'c:example.mdb' is not a valid database file header. The FILE SIZE property is incorrect.
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Nov 3, 2004
I have a named instance of MSDE running on my windows 2k3 web server. I can connect just fine using ODBC to that DB whailst I am on the server.
I would like to be able to create an ODBC connection from my local machine (running Windows XP pro) to the MSDE database on my server but I can't get it going.
I have heard that I need to edit the registry but a Google search warns that this could be a vulnerability...
How do I do it without compromising the security of my web server?
TIA
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Aug 7, 2005
Yes I have the dreaded "SQL Server does not exist or access denied." error
when trying to connect to an MSDE database. I've tried many solutions
found across the net. I installed the latest sp3a version of MSDE,
granted the ASPNET worker process access to my database, opened port
1433 in the Windows XP firewall. I'm running Windows XP SP2.
The funny thing is that I can successfully connect using an ODBC DSN connection (OdbcConnection). No problems at all.
This works.
<code>
Dim strDSNString As String = "DSN=mike"
Dim objConn As New OdbcConnection(strDSNString)
Dim objCmd As New OdbcCommand("select * from table1", objConn)
Dim objReader As OdbcDataReader
Try
objConn.Open()
objReader = objCmd.ExecuteReader
While objReader.Read
Response.Write(objReader("column1"))
End While
objConn.Close()
Catch
Response.Write("fail")
End Try
</code>
But no luck when I try an SqlConnection.
This does not work.
<code>
db_connection = New SqlConnection(ConfigurationSettings.AppSettings("ConnectionString"))
db_connection.Open()
</code>
The connectionString = Integrated Security=SSPI;Initial
Catalog=miketest;Data Source=localhost;Network
Library=dbmssocn;Trusted_Connection=True;
So, why does the OdbcConnection work but the SqlConnection does not??
Thank you.
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Jul 20, 2005
Hi. I'm coming from a background of developing mdbs and am trying to migrateour databases to adps running atop MSDE 2000. However, I've encountered aproblem while trying to do analogous things to what I've done before withmdbs...for example:-Linking to a csv file on another machine: I am able to establish a linkuning the 'Link Table Wizard' that shows up as a new view. However, uponopenning the view I see only a single column (left-most).What am I missing here?James
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Hi all,
I'm getting this error message when I try to connect my MSDE database from other machine using enterprise manager application. Both of the machines are WinXP SP2. I found some solution such as using 'SQLServer Network Utility' but didn't work out for me. I even can not connect my database on my computer using TCP/IP. When I connect with name, it worked fine. I already enable both TCP/IP and Named pipe protocol on the MSDE machine.
If someone has solution on that please let me know.
Thanks,
Myo
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I am running the MSDE 2000 Setup off the SQL Server 2000 Developer Edition CD.
After installation is complete, there is a service under the Control Panel -> Services window
called MSSQL$GregInstance. I then start that service.
But now when I try to connect to the database using
osql -E -S GregInstance
I get told that the SQL Server does not exist or access denied. Even though the server is running. I have also tried
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Note : SQL Server 2000 is not installed on the machine, only this MSDE instance.
Thanks
Greg
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