MSDE Vs. Processor License Questions
Feb 1, 2004
I recently completed developping my own e-Commerce model using SQL Server 2000 on Windows XP Pro .
However, now that I have it running smoothly, I would like to transfer the files to a dual Xeon 1.7 Ghz system with Windows Server 2003 with SQL Server installed for commercial use. I looked at the prices, and I was shocked to see a processor license for SQL server to be $5,000 to $20,000!
License Prices
I have a few questions comparing the free MSDE to actually purchasing a server license:
1. I undestand that MSDE limits the concurrent queries to 25 at a time... is that sufficient for a site that has say 500 visitors a day, who make 10-20 queries each? What about 1000 or 5000 visitors?
2. When the MSDE query manager detects too many queries, does it queue queries to resolve sequentially automatically? Or, does it just FAIL if there are too many queries? I'd hope that it would queue the query so that I don't have to go through my source and re-program each query to re-try in this case.
3. Is the 2GB database size limit of any concern on an ongoing basis? Seems to me that is more than enough as long as I erase some tables every few years.
If anyone has had experience with either/or system, I appreciate your advice.
Thanks,
Brent
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Nov 8, 2004
Does it mean "per hard drive" or "per CPU"(Pentium III, Pentium IV, etc.)? I'm a bit confused about it after reading a lot of books and article talking about processor license. Thanks in advance....
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Jul 20, 2004
If I install an instance of SQL Server on a box with 4 processors but specify in the licensing part of the installation procedure that it's a '2 processor license', does that really mean that SQL Server will only use 2 of the 4 processors? I ask because, having done this, if I check the SQL Server instance's properties, on the Processors tab, there are 4 processors ticked - giving the impression that 4 processors are being used by this SQL Server instance. Can anyone throw some light on this?
Another question... If I wish to reconfigure the same SQL Server instance from a 2 to a 4 processor 'per processor' license, how can this be done?
Clive
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Aug 6, 2004
We have an active database that sits on SQL Server 2000 that currently has per seat license...but now want to switch to per processor.
If I go to ControlSQL Server 2000 License Set up...it doe not give me the option to choose per processor.
Do I need to un-install/re-install SQL Server 2000 and choose the per processor choice and then re-attach our database ?
It seems like a lot of work..please advise.
Thank you
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Oct 28, 2004
I currently have a single proc server in production and want to maintain a spare server that is dual-proc.
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Oct 11, 2006
I need to upgrade a solution from SQL Express Advanced to Workgroup Edition because of the 4GB size limit. I'm planning on deploying the solution in an secure web enviroment were only authenticated users will be able to access the database. The actual username's and passwords would be stored in an Express database. Therefore since only named users would be accessing the database server web app, can I use the CAL license model??
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Jul 23, 2005
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Mar 3, 2006
1. Is it legal and OK to use a MSDN SQL copy on a production environment or is it strickly for test environments ??
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Sorry I am a newbie at this SQL thing.
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Jul 20, 2005
Hello, I am new to MS SQL database and have recently downloaded MSDE (Comingin from an Oracle background). I have installed it and have a couple ofquestions.1.) Is there a product something like SQLPLUS (hopefully shipped with MSDE)where you can log on to the database and view tables/data/views and so on?2.) I need to set up an account with a username/password. Is there aexecutable that I require to be able to perform this task?3.) I see Enterprise manager on microsoft website, but is that shipped withMSDE?I know that these may sound simple, but I would appreciate your comments.Kind regards,Harry.
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Jul 20, 2005
Hello gurus:Hopefully someone can shed some light on some questions I have. I amtasked to build an application that will schedule and track tasks. Ifirmly believe in not reinventing the wheel however also feel thatcustomizing is certainly not out of the question.I am looking to build something in ASP (or .NET) that can allow anindividual to work "disconnected" from the network while stillaccessing a database (MSDE?) that will sync with SQL 2000 oncere-connected. I have built multiple db apps that are strictly webbased and consider myself somewhat knowledgeable (read.. dangereous)SQL/ASP dude. I understand that for a stand-alone client app I mayhave to use .NET and load the framewsork on the client in order to runthe dynamic pages for database updates. Here are my questions:1) Is there a way for SQL server to "replicate" its tables into aschema/data recognized by MSDE (i.e. generate the "mother ship" tablesand schema first, then use SQL Server to automatically create (export)the client MSDE tables)2) are there tools to manage MSDE so one can see what the heck is inthere? I understand Enterprise manager will not work in this regard.3) Are there any resources (documents, tutorials etc..) for datareplication (i.e. dbsync from MSDE up to MSSQL and vice-versa)4) Am I wasting my time doing this from scratch because there isalready something out there that does all this that is moderatelypriced and customizable?Thanks for your attention and consideration.Eric B
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Oct 13, 2006
I have a VERY Legitmate use to install sql 4 workgroups on a pc without licensing it. I am making a disk image for MANY pcs to be imaged and load licensing after the imaging is completed.
I have been able to do this with Windows XP Professional, MS Office 2003 and a couple non-Ms programs. The information for MS software even came from their KB, so I know what I am doing is legit. I just can't find any information on doing this for my sql app.
Any suggestions??
Respectfully,
Frustrated
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I'm trying to setup a news database for my website, which will populate
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Mar 9, 2005
I'm not sure if this is the correct forum for this this question but I'll give it a shot.
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Aug 6, 1999
Good morning,
I've just updated my databases to V7.0 from 6.5. I am having some issues with CPU utilization after rebuilding the databases. I rebuilt the databases from scripts after modifying the scripts to deal with any SQL issues between the versions.
Symptoms:
When a bunch of stored procedures are executed the % Processor Time his 100% on a single processor system, the Processor Queue Length hits 13, the Batch Request/Sec starts at 20 and rises to 47 before dropping off, Context Switches go from 370/sec to about 833/sec before dropping off and there is an increase in page faulting.
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