MSSQL 2005 Schemas Vs SQL 2000 Users
Aug 20, 2007
Hello,
I think now MS SQL 2005 support packaging database object into schemas which may be granted access by any of the db users, while SQL 2000 only we could use the database creator user instead of schema. my case is i am working in a system with more than one module, e.g. HR + TaskManagemt.
Both HR and TaskManagement objects are in the same database, and there are some common objects.
I want to isolate the HR objects from the TaskManagemt objects, so i can package any module separated from the other, suppose i want to buy only the HR module, so that i want only to exctract the HR Object + the common objects but not the TaskManagement objects.
So how can i accomplish such operations using SQL 2005 schemas AND using SQL 2000 users.
P.S. i have two servers one with 2000 and the other with 2005, so i want to find solutions for both 2000 and 2005
Thanks in advance
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May 16, 2008
I have been struggling with this for a while and cannot get it right. I have read countless articles on the internet as well as MSDN documentation about SQL Server 2005 and no success so far.
What I want is a database with multiple SCHEMAS, DATABASE ROLES and USERS in order to have a finer grade of security to access the various objects.
My schemas are (in order to simplify the situation and provide an example of the setup):
- [dbo] the standard DBO schema which is always default. Contains public objects.
- [com] a special module integrated into the system
- [ofc] contains objects used by back-office only
- [aud] contains objects used for auditing, etc.
Each of these schemas has their fair share of tables, views, functions and stored procedures which have been created appropriately (i.e. CREATE TABLE [ofc].[Addresses]), in other words prefixed by the name of the schema to which they belong.
Then I have created various database roles (don't confuse them with SQL2005 application roles) as follows:
- PublicRole mostly used for viewing, no data alterations
- WorkerRole used by front end processes that need write access to data in [dbo] and [aud]
- OfficeRole used by back-office for dealing with backoffice data (basically [ofc], [aud] stuff)
- AdminRole used by application administrator
Each of these database roles has been defined with owner 'dbo', none of them own any schemas. And last but not least to each of these roles I have selected the above named schemas (dbo, ofc, aud) as securables and for each of those securables schemas I have then given the correct set of GRANT/DENY on the Alter, Control, Delete, Execute, Insert, References, Select, Update, Take ownership and View definition.
As an example, the PublicRole role has been given the following permissions (Y=GRANT, N=DENY):
Table #1 of Application Permissions [dbo] [com] [ofc] [aud]Alter N N N N
Control N N N N Delete N N N N Execute Y Y N Y Insert N N N Y References Y Y N Y Select Y Y N Y Update N N N Y Take ownership N N N N View definition N N N N
And I have the following minimum set of database users defined (the server login has the same name):
- upublic, assigned to PublicRole
- uworker, assigned to WorkerRole
- uoffice, assigned to OfficeRole
- uadmin, assigned to AdminRole
As I understand when I assign these users to a particular custom Database Role, the users inherit the permissions granted to THAT role thus liberating me from having to assign the permissions to each and every user account on the same role.
What I expected was that when I logged in to the database with the upublic user account I would at least be able to view (SELECT at least) ALL the objects with the exception of those in th e[ofc] schema. Unfortunately the account is not able to access ANYTHING at all, I get an error like
"The SELECT permission has been denied on object XYZ, database DB, schema 'dbo'"
So, when I use Management Studio to look at the properties I selected the PublicRole and it showed the upublic user as a member of the role (Members of this role). So far so good.
Then when I switch to the Securables page for this role it shows all the schemas I defined and for each of them the same list shown in Table #1 except it has two lines for each permission, the first for Grantor dbo and the second for Grantor upublic. The first has the same permissions I assigned to the role (as shown on Table #1) but the 2nd does not show a checkmark on either GRANT or DENY!!! For example ([x] = checked, [ ] unchecked):
Table #2 Explicit permissions for Securable
Permission Grantor Grant Grant-with Deny
Select dbo [x] [ ] [ ] Select upublic [ ] [ ] [ ]
What am I doing wrong here? Apparently I then have to repeat the whole grant/deny for EACH and EVERY USER I define when the idea was that I would grant/deny on the database role and every member of that role would inherit those permissions automatically.
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I am looking for some advice on securing a sql 2005 database.
I have a database to which I want to grant 3 different users access.
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The second users have again got access to a certain set of stored procedures, along with the stored procedures for 'public'. These should be called 'moderator'.
Finally the third set of users 'admin' should have access to all stored procedures, but again no access to the database unless its through a stored procedure.
Questions :
Using SQL 2005, how do I assign access to particular stored procedures to a user?
How do I ensure that a 'user' cannot access stored procedures I don't want them to access?
Some of the stored procedure use dynamic sql within them, will this affect my setup. If I deny direct access to the tables to all three users, but allow them access the stored procedures, can the stored procedures access the tables?
If schemas are the answer, how on earth do I set them up, Ive never seen something so badly documented online in my experience! In my development environment im using sql express, so will probably working through the query analyzer.
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GRANT CONTROL SERVER TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
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GRANT CREATE ANY DATABASE TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
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GO
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GO
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TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio
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An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch. (Microsoft.SqlServer.ConnectionInfo)
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OK
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TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio
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