MSSQL ODBC And Transaction
Feb 20, 2008
Hi There,
I have developed the ODBC app which can work with Oracle as well as MSSQL server databases. I need to use transactions at some level. By setting AUTOCOMMIT OFF and using SET TRANSACTION and BEGIN WORK, COMMIT WORK everything works fine with Oracle. But with MSSQL server does not. Do I need to code something special for MSSQL? Does anyone has example on how to implement transactions with MSSQL server using ODBC?
I tried reading lots of documents on Microsoft site but nothing specifically says how to do this. One way the doc says is using SQLSetConnectAttr with SQL_ATTR_TXN_ISOLATION but does not specify how to.
Any help with appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Milind
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Apr 14, 2007
I lost few days to solve a problem regarding the connection to an Oracle database server (10) with goal to execute a distributed transaction.
The environment was:
Windows Server 2003 Standard
MSSQL Server 2000 Standard
Oracle 10g Production Edition
The connection was quite easy to make with the Microsoft driver, but the error was:
Server: Msg 7391, Level 16, State 1, Line 3
The operation could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'MSDAORA' was unable to begin a distributed transaction.
OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB Provider 'MSDAORA' ITransactionJoin::JoinTransaction returned 0x8004d01b].
I tried to use the oracle odbc driver, but all kinds of errors were raised, regarding the TNS name and stuff like this. The real cause was that when you create the linked server you must to check the €œAllow inbound process€? in the provider options.
The Oracle ODBC driver allow distributed transactions.
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Sep 17, 2004
We have in our applications written in VC++ access also to MSSQL but only over ODBC. Is there any performance difference (is ADO faster) between ODBC and ADO access? And if yes how much it could be ?
Thanks for your answer.
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Jul 11, 2006
I work with a FoxPro programmer who wants to use an ODBC connection from his foxpro inventory database to the websites mssql inventory database to do quanity+1 updates.
But he is not sure if OBDC (or MSSQL for that matter) supports those kind of updates (field+1 instead finding out what field value is and then incrementing it).
Can one of your pros confirm or deny this?
thanks!
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May 6, 2008
First off, Devshed is a great place to find information for development. I'm on here daily looking through threads, finding answeres
I'm building a backend for a program that uses msSql 2005 and ODBC .
I'm trying to insert into a table, and it is working, but i would like to find a solution to this error i get from the odbc trace:
Calc f54-5c4ENTER SQLExecute
HSTMT 00924A18
Calc f54-5c4EXIT SQLExecute with return code -1 (SQL_ERROR)
HSTMT 00924A18
DIAG [22018] [Microsoft][SQL Native Client]Invalid character value for cast specification (0)
when i try to insert a value of 0 (zero) into a column that is bound as a double it gives this error.
And one more thing:
if(retcode != SQL_SUCCESS | SQL_SUCESS_WITH_INFO)
shouldnt that work? (if Retcode isnot success OR success_with_info)
Any input would be greatly appreciated!
thanks
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Jun 9, 2006
Hi. Is there a way in order to get the Server name using MSSQL ODBC in Visual C++? Here's my code:
CString wstr_connect ;
wstr_connect.Format( "DSN=%s;UID=%s;PWD=%s", gstr_DBName, gstr_UserID, gstr_Password ) ;
CDatabase mydb ;
BOOL ret = mydb.OpenEx( wstr_connect, CDatabase::noOdbcDialog ) ;
CString info = mydb.GetConnect( ) ;
GetConnect only returns the database name, user ID, password and WSID. How do i get the server name?
Thanks in advance!
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Feb 20, 2008
Hi There,
I have developed the ODBC app which can work with Oracle as well as MSSQL server databases. I need to use transactions at some level. By setting AUTOCOMMIT OFF and using SET TRANSACTION and BEGIN WORK, COMMIT WORK everything works fine with Oracle. But with MSSQL server does not. Do I need to code something special for MSSQL? Does anyone has example on how to implement transactions with MSSQL server using ODBC?
I tried reading lots of documents on Microsoft site but nothing specifically says how to do this. One way the doc says is using SQLSetConnectAttr with SQL_ATTR_TXN_ISOLATION but does not specify how to.
Any help with appreciated. Thanks in advance.
Milind
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Apr 11, 2005
Hello,
I normally use Microsoft Access to retrieve data , via ODBC connection, from a table in a SQLserver database. One of the fields in the table has a value 1 but at times when the data is retrieved into MS Access it turns out to be 100 in Access. Moreover, when I try to change it in Access my computer hangs or it takes a long time before the change is effected. It does not matter from which client Pc this action takes place it remains the same. I am using ODBC SQLserver ODBC driver version 2000.81.9042.00.
I would be grateful if you could help me out of this strange situation.
Regards,
Albert
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Apr 19, 2004
Hi,
I wanted to know if there is a way to connect to my MSSQL without having to setup a datasource in the control panel.
Perferably I want to locate the database within my perl code instead. I don't want to have to setup a datasource each time I need a different database. Perhaps there is a way to pass the name of the database along with the username and password through the command line.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.
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Sep 27, 2007
Hi,
I am having problems using MSSQL Express with ODBC. I am trying to retrieve a float field from the MSSQL server, but the value I get is corrupted (or at least approximated wrong). For instance, the value I want to retrieve is 59.457443, but what I actually get is 59.457442999999998. This only happens if I connect through ODBC. I did some tracing with ODBC and I've noticed that it's not a problem in my code, since the wrong value is what is actually extracted from the database. Following is an extract from the log file.
a88-ec EXIT SQLGetData with return code 0 (SQL_SUCCESS) HSTMT 03C62918 UWORD 5 SWORD 1 <SQL_C_CHAR> PTR 0x0415EB30 [ 18] "59.457442999999998" SQLLEN 50 SQLLEN * 0x0415E720 (18)
I am wondering if I overlooked something configuration-wise of if this is a bug in the driver? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
EoF
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May 14, 2002
Hi, I wonder if anyone can shed some light on this issue -
We have a client/server program for MSSQL7 and MSSQL2000.
When running client/server - we have our own broker, etc,
the program ends up locking itself on SQL2000; this is not a problem on SQL7.
We noticed that it seems some system tables locking tempdb.
We also noticed that SQL2000 no longer has insert-into/bulkcopy option like SQL7. But, here we don't have temporary tables at all. It's just that we found the lockings in tempdb caused by some sysobjects, sysindexes, etc.
Also, this does not happen to all the systems we have. Some of our machine does not have the self-lock problem; most of the machines have this problem though.
If we don't run client/server, then the program works fine.
Same logic, the difference is when we use client/server logic to connect to the remote SQLServer 2000 server, the locking might happen on most of our machines.
Anyone is familiar with tempdb and locking issues, please provide some hint??? Is it possible that there are some system parameters that we can set to avoid the problem. We haven't found out why some of our machines do not have problem, while most of the machines have this locking problem.
The program is written using ODBC.
Many thanks in advance.
HIBA International
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Mar 6, 2007
The source for this problem can be found http://www.wellytop.com/SQLProblem.zip
This test creates two threads each with a database connection and uses transactions to insert values into the same table.
The objective of this test is to check that a thread cannot read the results from a pending transaction on a different thread.
In effect this checks dirty reads do not happen and transaction locking.
The test runs correctly and displays "PASSED" with MySQL indicating the transaction and threading worked.
When running with MSSQL Express 2005 it reports a deadlock error during a transaction.
It's not really possible to re-run the transaction and I would like MS SQL to operate similar to MySQL, i.e. MySQL waits for the other transaction to finish before the next transaction can operate on those table rows. I'd like to use MSSQL but I am wondering why this error doesn't happen with MySQL and so have, for the moment, chosen to use it as my preferred database solution.
I have experimented with transaction isolation levels and this doesn't seem to solve the problem.
I've tested this with a fresh install of Windows XP SP2 and no firewall turned on.
To run this test with MSSQL Express2005 use the ODBC Data Source Administrator (odbcad32.exe) to create a data source named MyExpressTest and attach this to an empty database that has been created with the default values. Enable the #define MSSQL in the coude otherwise it tests with MySQL.
To run this test with MySQL (to show how this test should work) use the ODBC Data Source Administrator (odbcad32.exe) to create a data source named mySQLNewTest and attach this to an empty database that has been created with the default values. Comment out the #define MSSQL to switch to MySQL mode.
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Jul 28, 2004
Anyone support a config where you have an unix/linux (AIX here) ODBC client connection to SQL Server database? I am looking for a simple, supportable configuration that does not require me to learn perl or instal a bunch of crap gnu shareware on enterprise class machines.
Please help!
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May 27, 2006
I am trying to make an ODBC connection to a MSSQL 2K server on a remote machine. I am using the SQL Server driver and can see the server in the drop down list when asked which server I would like to connect to. I am using SQL authentication over TCP/IP.
The error occurs when ODBC tries to connet to SQL server to obtain the default settings. The error I receive is as follows:
Connection Failed;
sqlstate '28000';
sql server error: 18456;
[Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Login failed for user 'XXXX'
I have tried setting up alternate SQL Server users with varying security rights on the server but am not able to setup the ODBC connection.
I am setting the ODBC connection up on a windows XP SP2 machine.
The remote server is running Windows server 2003 (patched upto date) and MS SQL server 2K (SP3). The connection is over a LAN and does not pass through any firewalls (hardware or software). I can create the ODBC connection without issue locally on the server.
This is my first time creating an ODBC connection to a Windows 2003 Server and I am wondering if there is some additional config I may have missed out.
Many thanks.
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May 4, 2006
Hello & good day,
I am working on an application in which there is some data need to be updated & deleted on daily basis. Application is written on ASP. Actually on server we're using MSSQL database, we upload data on MS Access contains some records, on server side some process runs and get new data from Access and update MSSQL database.
There is a massive data need to be updated on daily basis so Transaction Log grow unexpectedly and SQL server start showing error. Here is the error detail.
"Microsoft OLE DB Provider for SQL Server error '80040e14' The log file for database 'microli_semris' is full. Back up the transaction log for the database to free up some log space."
Please help me out how can I solve this problem. I don’t want this transaction log file.
Second thing is that, what the best way to import data from access to SQL. I want to Import data in Bulk. Right now the way I am doing is that it reads one row from Access DB and then insert it into SQL database. But this process is so slow. Please recommend some better solution.
Thanks in Advance
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Jan 17, 2007
Greeting.
I use OdbcConnection inside clr procedure, for getting data. If I use simple EXEC dbo.clr_proc - all is OK. If I use INSERT...EXEC I recive error message: Distributed transaction enlistment failed.
I set MSDTC security options for No Authentification and Allow inbound and Allow outbound, but it's no use.
Have this problem solution? May be, I must use another method to get my data?
P.S. Linked Servers and OPENQUERY is not applicable. Sybase not describe columns in stored proc result set and one stored proc may return different result set by params.
P.S.S. Sorry for bad english.
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May 31, 2008
Hi All
I'm getting this when executing the code below. Going from W2K/SQL2k SP4 to XP/SQL2k SP4 over a dial-up link.
If I take away the begin tran and commit it works, but of course, if one statement fails I want a rollback. I'm executing this from a Delphi app, but I get the same from Qry Analyser.
I've tried both with and without the Set XACT . . ., and also tried with Set Implicit_Transactions off.
set XACT_ABORT ON
Begin distributed Tran
update OPENDATASOURCE('SQLOLEDB','Data Source=10.10.10.171;User ID=*****;Password=****').TRANSFERSTN.TSADMIN.TRANSACTIONMAIN
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update TSADMIN.TRANSACTIONMAIN
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1 and DONE = 1
update OPENDATASOURCE('SQLOLEDB','Data Source=10.10.10.171;User ID=*****;Password=****').TRANSFERSTN.TSADMIN.WBENTRY
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update TSADMIN.WBENTRY
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update OPENDATASOURCE('SQLOLEDB','Data Source=10.10.10.171;User ID=*****;Password=****').TRANSFERSTN.TSADMIN.FIXED
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update TSADMIN.FIXED
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update OPENDATASOURCE('SQLOLEDB','Data Source=10.10.10.171;User ID=*****;Password=****').TRANSFERSTN.TSADMIN.ALTCHARGE
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update TSADMIN.ALTCHARGE
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update OPENDATASOURCE('SQLOLEDB','Data Source=10.10.10.171;User ID=*****;Password=****').TRANSFERSTN.TSADMIN.TSAUDIT
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update TSADMIN.TSAUDIT
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
COMMIT TRAN
It's got me stumped, so any ideas gratefully received.Thx
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Feb 22, 2007
I have a design a SSIS Package for ETL Process. In my package i have to read the data from the tables and then insert into the another table of same structure.
for reading the data i have write the Dynamic TSQL based on some condition and based on that it is using 25 different function to populate the data into different 25 column. Tsql returning correct data and is working fine in Enterprise manager. But in my SSIS package it show me time out ERROR.
I have increase and decrease the time to catch the error but it is still there i have tried to set 0 for commandout Properties.
if i'm using the 0 for commandtime out then i'm getting the Distributed transaction completed. Either enlist this session in a new transaction or the NULL transaction.
and
Failed to open a fastload rowset for "[dbo].[P@@#$%$%%%]". Check that the object exists in the database.
Please help me it's very urgent.
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Feb 6, 2007
I am getting this error :Distributed transaction completed. Either enlist this session in a new
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An unhandled exception occurred during the execution of the current web
request. Please review the stack trace for more information about the error and
where it originated in the code. Exception Details:
System.Data.OleDb.OleDbException: Distributed transaction completed. Either
enlist this session in a new transaction or the NULL transaction.have anybody idea?!
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Message is like this:
Distributed transaction completed. Either enlist this session in a new transaction or the NULL transaction.
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Jan 8, 2008
Hi,
i am getting this error "Distributed transaction completed. Either enlist this session in a new transaction or the NULL transaction.".
my transations have been done using LINKED SERVER. when i manually call the store procedure from Server 1 it works but when i call it through Service broker it dosen't work and gives me this error.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi,
i was planning to create a database migration tool ..
its a certain database of a DMS (document management system) to
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they have different table structures and names . . :D
i was thing of what language shall i use.. or what language is the best to work on this kind of project :)
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Hi,
I am a bit new to the MSSQL server. In our application, we use so many SQL queries. To imporve the performance, we used the Database enigine Tuning tool to create the indexes. The older version of the application supports MSSQL 2000 also. To re-create these new indexes, I have an issue in running these "CREATE INDEX" commands as the statements generated for index creation are done in MSSQL 2005. The statements include "INCLUDES" keyword which is supported in MSSQL 2005 but not in MSSQL 2000.
Ex:-
CREATE INDEX IND_001_PPM_PA ON PPM_PROCESS_ACTIVITY
(ACTIVITY_NAME ASC, PROCESS_NAME ASC, START_TIME ASC, ISMONITORED ASC)
INCLUDE
(INSTANCE_ID, ACTIVITY_TYPE, STATUS, END_TIME, ORGANIZATION);
Any help in creating such indexes in 2000 version is welcome.
Thanks,
Suresh.
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May 3, 2008
Hello
We are using SQL 2005 and now we are planning to use SQL 2000. what are the ways to do the process.
We taken the script spcificall for 2000 and run it in SQL 200. But we are getting the error in SCRIPT?
Could you please give me the step to do?
Thanks,
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I am using SSIS 2014 with the below .net framework version and installed in Windows server 2012 R2 . I have installed my client's odbc drivers (both 32 bit and 64 bit) in my production server and created ODBC system DSNs for 32 bit and 64 bit.
When i open SSIS 2014 and tried to create the odbc connection but i can able to see only the 32 bit system DSN connection ,i can't able to see my 64 bit odbc system dsn connection.
Microsoft Visual Studio 2012 Shell (Integrated)
Version 11.0.50727.1 RTMREL
Microsoft .NET Framework
Version 4.5.51650
SQL Server Integration Services  Â
Microsoft SQL Server Integration Services Designer
Version 12.0.1524.0
And i installed my client odbc drivers(32,64 bit) and created ODBC system DSNs in my local system and when i open ssis 2014 and i can able to see both the ODBC system DSNS(32,64) connections from SSIS ODBC connection.
I am using below version of .net framework in my local system which was installed in windows 7 and i have SSIS 2012 also installed in my system and i can able to see both ODBC connections using 2012 as well in my local system.
Microsoft Visual Studio 2012 Shell (Integrated)
Version 11.0.50727.1 RTMREL
Microsoft .NET Framework
Version 4.5.50938
SQL Server Integration Services  Â
Microsoft SQL Server Integration Services Designer
Version 12.0.1524.0
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May 13, 2007
Hi,
I am using VB.NET 2005 and set up an ODBC connection via ODBC.ODBCConnection to a MDB database. Therefor, I use the "Microsoft Access ODBC Driver (*.mdb)".
When I set up a ODBCCommand like "ALTER DATABASE..." or "CREATE TABLE..." and issue it with the com.ExecuteNonQuery() command, I get an error from ODBC driver, that a SQL statement has to begin with SELECT, INSERT, UPDATE or DELETE.
How can I use DDL statements via ODBC?
I would appreciate if you could help me to use ODBC for that - no OLE, no ADO.
Thanks for help!
Regards,
Stefan D.
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Feb 13, 2007
I apologize if this is not the correct forum for this posting. Looking at the descriptions, it appeared to be the best choice.
I am running Windows XP Pro SP2. I have installed the SQL Native Client for
XP. However, when I try to add a new data source through ODBC Connection
Manager, SQL Native Client is not listed as an option. I have followed this procedure on three other systems with no problems. What would be causing the
SQL Native Client to not show up in the list of available ODBC data sources?
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and work with it to become familiar with 7.0. Can I install mssql 7.0
server on my nt workstation? Can mssql 6.5 client coexist with mssql 7.0
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Ben writes "I have a sql script that doesn't function very well when it's executed on a SQL 2000 server.
The scrpt looks like this:
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USE [master]
GO
IF NOT EXISTS (SELECT * FROM master.dbo.syslogins WHERE loginname = N'SSDBUSERNAME')
EXEC sp_addlogin N'SSDBUSERNAME', N'SSDBPASSWORD'
GO
GRANT ADMINISTER BULK OPERATIONS TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
GO
GRANT AUTHENTICATE SERVER TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
GO
GRANT CONNECT SQL TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
GO
GRANT CONTROL SERVER TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
GO
GRANT CREATE ANY DATABASE TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
GO
USE [master]
GO
If EXISTS (Select * FROM master.dbo.syslogins WHERE loginname = N'SSDBUSERNAME')
ALTER LOGIN [SSDBUSERNAME] WITH PASSWORD=N'SSDBPASSWORD'
GO
GRANT ADMINISTER BULK OPERATIONS TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
GO
GRANT AUTHENTICATE SERVER TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
GO
GRANT CONNECT SQL TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
GO
GRANT CONTROL SERVER TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
GO
GRANT CREATE ANY DATABASE TO [SSDBUSERNAME]
GO
USE [master]
GO
IF EXISTS (select * from dbo.sysdatabases where name = 'ISIZ')
DROP DATABASE [ISIZ]
GO
USE [SurveyData]
GO
exec sp_adduser 'SSDBUSERNAME'
GRANT INSERT, UPDATE, SELECT, DELETE
TO SSDBUSERNAME
GO
USE [SurveyManagement]
GO
exec sp_adduser 'SSDBUSERNAME'
GRANT INSERT, UPDATE, SELECT, DELETE
TO SSDBUSERNAME
---------------------------------------------------------------
I need to be converted to a script that can be executed on both MSSQL 2000 and MSSQL 2005.
I was wondering if somebody there could help me with this problem?!
Thanks,
Ben"
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Nov 17, 2007
I've been tasked to move our production databases on MSSQL 2000 to 2005. I've supported MSSQL since version 6.5 and performed migrations to successor versions.
Current Environment is MSSQL 2000 32-bit with current Service Packs.
I've performed mock migrations on Test servers upgrading all Production instances simultaneously from MSSQL 2000 to 2005 32-bit. The Test environment is identical to Production minus server name, IP etc. Also I have a separate server with MSSQL 2005 installed where I use the DETACH / ATTACH and BACKUP / RESTORE method for migration / acceptance testing. There are approximately 30 databases totaling 70 GB. This has gone as expected and fairly successful. Vendors have been coordinated with to update code and staff for acceptance testing.
I'd prefer going directly to MSSQL 2005 64-bit instead if possible due to memory benefits etc. This is where I'd like some feedback prior to borrowing a 64-bit server for testing.
Upgrade options:
1. Is it better to migrate from MSSQL 2000 32-bit to 2005 64-bit via:
a. DETACH / ATTACH
b. BACKUP / RESTORE
c. Is one method more advantageous relating to the end result?
2. Regarding XP clients, have issues been experienced with the default SQL Server driver or is an alternate recommended for XP clients to connect to a MSSQL 64-bit server databases?
3. If you have performed this migration and have relevant experience please pass them along.
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Dec 25, 2005
Hi all,I am having trouble getting linked Oracle 9 server in MS SQL Server2005 Express to work properly. My machine is running Windows XP.The Microsoft and Oracle OLE DB Providers have problems dealing withOracle's Numeric Data Type, so I decided to use Microsoft's OLE DB forODBC Provider and an Oracle ODBC source. When using the Microsoft ODBCfor Oracle Driver in my ODBC source I have inconsistent behavior.Sometimes my queries are processed properly, then other times I get thefollowing errorOLE DB provider "MSDASQL" for linked server "ODBCBEAST" returnedmessage "[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Driver's SQLSetConnectAttrfailed".OLE DB provider "MSDASQL" for linked server "ODBCBEAST" returnedmessage "[Microsoft][ODBC Driver Manager] Driver's SQLSetConnectAttrfailed".OLE DB provider "MSDASQL" for linked server "ODBCBEAST" returnedmessage "[Microsoft][ODBC driver for Oracle][Oracle]".Msg 7303, Level 16, State 1, Line 1Cannot initialize the data source object of OLE DB provider "MSDASQL"for linked server "ODBCBEAST".I have no idea why sometimes I can connect to the linked server with noproblems andwhy other times it performs like this. I'm not changing anything aboutthe system I can think of. When I use an Oracle client (PL/SQL) I haveabsolutely no problems connecting. TNSPING returns that the connectionis good.This is unacceptable so I decided to try my luck with the Oracle 10gODBC driver. However when I use this and perform an openquery selectagainst the linked server I get back only 11 rows, when I know that thedatabase has over 100 rows (in fact when using the Microsoft ODBCdriver and it works that's what I get). I figured maybe the buffersetting needed to be raised in the ODBC configuration so I took it from64000 to 600000 (a magnitude of 10) but I still get back only 11 rows.I'm at my wit's end.Any suggestions on resolving one or the other problem would be muchappreciated.Thanks much
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