Managing Large Number Of Objects (table,sp,view)
Jul 28, 2007
Hi,
Our database has very large number of objects. We have a naming convension by modules, subprojects etc. But for example when we need to open a specific table it still takes time to find it. If we could create custom folders under table folder or stored procedure folder it will be easier to find an object. We could create sub folders by module, subproject and classify our objects with these folders. Will the next version SQL Server 2008 support this kind of functionality?
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Aug 11, 2007
I am developing an office automation software for a government department. To start with, I have decided to first automate the salary section of the department. Because of some issues like, TCO, easy support and maintenance, scalability etc., I have decided to use SQL Server 2005 database with VB 2005 front-end.
I have planned the layout for this first part and found that in only employee salary table, 40,000 records per month will be stored. That comes out to be around 480,000 records annually. This is for one table alone, excluding data in other tables.
Since each section of the department will be integrated into this later, this application will become the backbone the department. The employee service, leave, salary, allowance, deduction and other records shall be maintained.
For this type of mission-critical application, I want to get some queries cleared:
(1) What backup strategy should be followed? I want to have schedule and maual backups both. Is there any way to have a mirror image on another server?
(2) What considerations to keep in mind in the inital stage of database design?
(3) How to keep the design scalable and configurable to meet future needs?
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Aug 27, 2007
Hi everyone,
I use sql 2005. What is the best practice for dealing with large table (more than million rows)? Table Partition, View or other?
Can you please give some suggestions? It will be very helpful if you can post some references or examples.
Thank you!
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Dec 24, 2007
Hey Guys
i need to add a datetime column to an exisitng table that has like 1.2 million records and its being accessed frequently
but i cant afford to stop the db at all
whenever i do : alter table mytable add Updated_date datetime
it just takes too long and i have to stop executing the query after a couple of mins
I am running sql express 2005 sp2. db size is over 3 gb but still under the 4 gb limit
can u plz advice on how to add this column. its urgent!!
thanks in advance
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Jan 19, 2015
I have a simple query that joins a largeish fact table (3 million rows) to a view that returns 120 rows. The SKEY in the view is returned via a scalar function. The view returns instantly if queried on it's own however when joined to the fact table in the simple query below results in a query execution plan that runs forever. Interestingly if I change the INNER JOIN to a LEFT OUTER JOIN the query returns the matched results almost instantly.
Select
Dimension.Age_Band.[10_Year_Age_Band],
Count(*)
From
Fact.APC_Episodes
Inner Join Dimension.Age_Band ON
Fact.APC_Episodes.AGE_BAND_SKEY = Age_Band.AGE_BAND_SKEY
Group By
Dimension.Age_Band.[10_Year_Age_Band]
I know joining to a view using a column generated by a scalar function is not a good recipe for performance. I also know that I could fix this by populating a physical table with the view first as I have already tested this though I hoping not to have to go down that route.
Why a LEFT OUTER JOIN works and not an INNER JOIN or anyway I can get the query optimizer to generate an execution plan that works?
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Feb 11, 2014
Other than right-clicking on each individual table in SSMS and generating a CREATE script, is there a simple way to generate CREATE TABLE scripts for tables within a given database?
Background: I have a bunch of tables in one database, and I would like to add tables to a second database that have the same names and basic structures of some of the tables from the first database.
I do not need to transfer any data from the tables, this is a seperate project that will use a similar data structure. I just want to generate the CREATE TABLE scripts for 30ish tables within the first database, and then I'll tweak the scripts as appropriate and run them against the new database.
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Oct 4, 2015
I am studying indexes and keys. I have a table that has a fixed width of data to be loaded in the first column which is parsed in a view based on data types within the fixed width specifications.
Example column A:
(name phone house cost of house,zipcodecountystatecountry)
-a view will later split this large varchar string basedÂ
column b: is the source filename of the data load (varchar 256)
....
a. would there be a benefit of adding a clustered or nonclustered index (if so which/point in direction on why)
b. is there benefit of making one of these two columns a primary key (millions of records) or for adding a 3rd new column as a pk?
c. view: this parses the data in column a so it ends up looking more like "name phone house cost of house zipcode county state country" each having their own column.
-any pros/cons of adding indexes (if so which) to the view instead of the tables or both for once the data is parsed?
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Jul 13, 2004
In my Java application, I have a stream of character data in a java.io.Reader object.
I am using a PreparedStatement object to insert data into a table containing such a large object column (datatype - text). I am using the following API call:
PreparedStatement.setCharacterStream(colIndex, reader, size);
In order to find the size in the above statement, I read the stream and find the length.
Because of this I am getting the following error message and the data is not getting inserted:
Exception during insertion : Failed for MYTABLE Reason [Microsoft][SQLServer 2000 Driver for JDBC]Transliteration failed.
Is there any alternate method to handle this? Please help.
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Sep 8, 2014
I want to create a login with some restriction like the following...
1.I will create a login and ll mapped to a particular DB with the Database Role 'db_datarerader' only,
2.We wants to display the all objects under a DB but we don't want to provide the View Definition to that particular Login.
3.If we Deny the View definition option he can't able to see the Objects which are there under the DB.
4.So My Clear Question is we want to display the Object like tables ,Sps...etc and we don't want to allow him to view the definition of those objects....
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Jul 28, 2004
Hi All,
I'm currently in the middle of building quite a large CMS using ASP.NET and MSSQL2K and have began to question if the amount of queries I am using for one page to be built is too many?
For one page (View Forum) I am getting all of the templates and checking access then pulling a list of threads, getting the first and last posts, then user info for the first and last posts... anyway to view 10 threads on the page the number of queries comes to about 54 and the page takes 0.064 seconds to load.
My question is, Is this to many queries to be running for a single page load? All queries are using Stored Procedures.
Thanks Guys.
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Jul 19, 2004
hi,
Does large number of connections to a sql server result in slogging queries??
by large number of connections I mean in the range of 2000 to 2500 connections to various databases on the same server.
This happens on the production database, if I download the copy of the database and run the specific queries on the local box it hardly takes 1 second to execute, whereas on the production box it takes about 45 to 60 secs, i m working on the indexes part... was not sure whether number of connections to a server affect the performance of the queries or it is just that the indexes need defragmentation...
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Jul 23, 2005
We are busy designing a generic analytical system at work that willhold multiple analytic types over time. This system is being developedin SQL 2000.Example of tableIDENTITY intItemId int [PK]AnalyticType int [PK]AnalyticDate DateTime [PK]Value numeric(28,15)ItemId - the item for which the analytic is being storedAnalyticType - an arbitrary typeThe [PK] tag indicates the composite primary key.Our scenario is the following:* For this time series data, we expect around 250 days per year(working days) and the dataset could extend to over 20 years* Up to 50 analytic types* Up to 20,000 itemsLooking at the combined calculation - this comes to roughly somethinglike25 * 20,000 * 50 * 250 or around 5 billion rows.We will be inserting around 50*20,000 or around 1 million rows each day(the inserts will take place in the middle of the night (outside themain query time) - this could be done through something like BCP orBULK INSERT.Our real problem is we have not previously worked with such largetables before and are nervous that our system is going to grind to ahalt. Our biggest tables are around 20 million rows at the moment.Scanning through google and microsoft's own site we have found aparititioning method that is available.http://www.microsoft.com/resources/...art5/c1861.mspxHaving experimented with the above system it seems rather quirky andlooking at the available literature it seems that this is not moreeffective than a clustered index as far as queries go.It needs to be optimized for queries like:Given the ItemID and the AnalyticType search for a specific date or aspecific range of dates.If anyone has any experience or helpful suggestions I would reallyappreciate it.ThanksA
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Apr 3, 2007
Hi all,
A select query returns around 1 million rows. The column in the WHERE condition is indexed. This query takes nearly 1 minute for returning the all the records. Is this normal ?
Does the number of records returned affect the performance inspite of the indexing ?
Thanks,
DBLearner
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Mar 16, 2007
I have a considerably large view that is pulling data from tables and other view, using user defined functions, and using case statements. This view is taking a lot of time to load.I was under the impression that SQL server keeps the views uptodate, so selecting data from them is as fast as selecting from a table. It now seems like SQL server rebuilds the view evertime something accesses it.Can someone please tell me more on this. I am now having to re-write everything :-(Thanks Jag
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Sep 10, 2014
We are running SQL Server 2012 on Windows 2008 Server. In one database, we would like to create a view which access objects in another database without giving the user permissions to the underlying base tables in the other database. The ownership chain is broken in this case. Can this be accomplished (considering the ownership chain is broken)? If so, what is the easiest method to accomplish this task? Or
Example 1 (Works):
In DB1:
--UserA selects from Schema1.View1 (which access tables in DB2).
In DB2:
--UserA exists with select permissions on the base tables accessed by Schema1.View1 (in DB1).
Example 2 (trying to accomplish):
In DB1:
--UserA selects from Schema1.View1 (which access tables in DB2).
In DB2:
--UserA exists (or may not exists) with NO permissions on the base tables accessed by Schema1.View1 (in DB1).
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Nov 24, 1999
Hi,
I need to insert a very large number of rows into a table (in SQL Server 7.0) using ADO.
Could you please tell me i there is a way for FAST insert, something similar to BCP ... or any other way of
inserting large number of rows efficiently
Thanks
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Jan 25, 2008
Hi gurus, I'm creating a web application where I will have a large number of tables (between 10k and 20k), this is done for the sake of scalability as tables will be moved to different database servers as the application grows and also for performance (smaller indexes). I'm worried though how having a large number of tables could affect the performance of SQL Server as the application will start on one single database server. I tried to find some resources on that on the internet but couldn't find any.
I would really appreciate if you can give me some advice and if you have any good links that would be great...
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Feb 23, 2007
For anyone with a larger number of databases (500+): How many do you have in a single instance. If you are using multiple instance on a single server, how many dbs per instance. This is why I'm asking
We are experiencing 701 "out of system memory" and temporary (usually) system freezes when the error occurs. We have 32bit 2005 version 9.00.2153.00, 32GB of memory, AWE enabled, quad dual-core 3GHz hyperthreaded server. Nether the bPool or VAS show any pressure when the "out of system memory error" occurs. Since this error usually indicates a VAS problem we tried increasing VAS to 1GB w/the -g flag. It made no difference. PSS has been working on the case for 3 weeks. They dont seem to be finding any evidince of memory pressure either. When I last spole to the escalation engineer yesterday it seemed that they are going to recommend reducing the number of databases on the server. I asked for clarification as to whether we are hitting a 32 bit barrior, an instance limitation, or both. I am awaiting the answer. How many databases do you have on your server? We had between 1700 and 1900 (the number varies) at times when the error occured. We are now at 1500, and have not had the error in the 2 days since reducing the number of databases...
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Jan 25, 2008
Hi gurus, I'm creating a web application where I will have a large number of tables (between 10k and 20k), this is done for the sake of scalability as tables will be moved to different database servers as the application grows and also for performance (smaller indexes). I'm worried though how having a large number of tables could affect the performance of SQL Server as the application will start on one single database server. I tried to find some resources on that on the internet but couldn't find any.
I would really appreciate if you can give me some advice and if you have any good links that would be great...
Waleed Eissa
http://www.waleedeissa.com
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Jun 20, 2006
Hi!
The DB I am working with has about 10 tables and some of the tables have 200,000 to 500,000 records. All tables have a clustered index on the primary key.
I performance during INSERT could be better I think - I add thousands of records at a time from many connections.
Is there a way to defer the update of indicies? So that, I can update the tables and then let the indicies regenerate ?
thanks,
Jas.
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Dec 9, 2014
how to know the limitation of number of objects(Maximum no.of objects allow tempdb database) in a tempdb database?
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Oct 11, 2007
I have a procedure that creates a large dynamic view of several tables. The view is a union view of up to 15 tables. The table names are all <name>_DDMM where name is the standard table name and ddmm is the day and month of the tables data. The tables are created by a software supplied by another company, so I can not ensure that the tables will always have exactly the same fields or number of fields. Sometimes the company will add more fields to the tables in thier updates. So, I have to include the field names in the SQL exec command to create the query. This makes for a very long exec command and depending on the number of tables it needs to include, it can require upwards of a 16,000 character string. Obviously, this can't work, so I had to break up the variable in order to create the procedure. However, I'm wondering if there isn't a better method than creating three different 8000 varchar variables and having overflow write to the next variable in line. Especially if the number of tables needs to be expanded, it could be a problem. Is there a better way to run a create view exec command on a large number of characters?
EDIT: Changed the title to read Procedurally generating a large view.
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Oct 20, 2006
I have datagrid that needs to display a log table which has more than million records. Since it it huge number, it is not possible to get dataset using "select * from log_table" to fill and to bind to datagrid.Is there anyway to display first 100 rows on first page and show next 100 rows if use clicks on page 2?Thank you very much in advance!Justin
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Jan 29, 2008
Hi I have created one store procedure which handles global updates I am using cursor to fetch one be one row for updating (It is required for implementing business logic)Now when i execute this store procedure ---it gives me dedlock error , I dont know why i m getting this error(Approx number of rows 1.5lakh)if then i removed unnecessary records from table (Approx -50000) it works fine,Is there any way to handle itI am calling this storeprocedure from my window service.please give me a good solution if possible
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Jun 4, 2007
All;
We have a Windows App and Web App that share business objects which points to a single database. When a Windows user logs in, an average of 50 processes are created in the first few seconds and never go away. The details window is blank and they all remain sleeping from that point on.
I have stepped through the code to see if there is anything odd going on but most of the processes are created when validating the number of parameters the stored procedure has or the length of the stored procedure name. This translates to 1000-1500 processes on average.
Is this normal? Will it hurt performance? Is there a way to remove them?
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Sep 14, 2007
I have a table with about 10 million rows, its been logging data incorrectly and I want to start again.
DELETE FROM tblLog
I just get a message about the server timing out, what can I do?
Thanks
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Jul 23, 2005
Hi all,I need to store data into about 104 columns. This is problematic with MSSQL, since it doesn't support rows over 8kb in total size.Most of the columns are of type NVARCHAR(255), which means we can't havemore than 8092/(255*2) = 15 columns of this type.With a row length of more than 8kb, SQL gives a warning that any rows overthat amount will be truncated.So far I'm seeing two possible solutions to this problem:1. Split data into multiple tables with the same ID column accross alltables, and then join them on SELECT statements.2. Use NTEXT instead of NVARCHAR. NTEXT's length is 16 bytes because itcontains a pointer to the actual value stored somewhere else. However, NTEXTdoesn't support regular indexing, only through a Full-Text Index catalog. Inthis case I'll need to user "WHERE CONTAINS(columnName, 'sometext')" toperform searches, which is bearable.I'm inclined toward #2. However I haven't used Full-Text indices before anddon't know their limitations. Will I run into problems with NTEXT? Is therea better solution?Thanks.-Oleg.
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Feb 9, 2007
Hello!I have a developer that is playing around with some SQL statementsusing VB.NET. He has a test table in a SQL 2000 database, and he hasabout 2000 generated INSERT statements.When the 2000 INSERT statements are run in SQL query analyzer, all2000 rows are added to the table. When he tries to send the 2000statements to SQL Server through his app., a random number ofstatements do not get executed. But, SQL Profiler shows that each ofthe 2000 statements are getting sent to the server.I suggested that he add a "GO" statement at the end of the INSERTblock, but the statement fails when that is sent to the server.I know that this is not the ideal manner to insert bulk data to thesystem, but now we are all just curious as to why SQL server doesn'texecute each individual INSERT.Any thoughts?
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Jun 22, 2007
Hi!
There is a view in our replicated SQL-2000 database, that returns all user tables and views with replication state (0 if not included into publication, 1 if included):
Code Snippet
CREATE VIEW [dbo].[ViewREPL_PublishedObjects]
AS
SELECT TOP 100 PERCENT
CASE [xtype]
WHEN 'U' THEN 'Table'
WHEN 'V' THEN 'View'
ELSE NULL END AS [Object Type],
[name] AS [Object Name],
CASE WHEN [replinfo] = 0
THEN 0 ELSE 1
END AS [Replicated]
FROM [sysobjects]
WHERE
[xtype] in ('U', 'V')
AND [status] > 0
ORDER BY
(CASE [xtype]
WHEN 'U' THEN 1
WHEN 'V' THEN 2
ELSE 10
END),
[name]
Now we need to upgrade our database to SQL-2005, but [sysobjects] table have been changed, so neither Replicated state could be determined according on [replinfo] column value, nor User/System object according on [status].
So, I need a view with same functionality, that will work under SQL-2005 and 2008.
Please, help!
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May 23, 2002
Table structure: col1 IDENTITY (seed=1 increment=1) + few other columns (col2...col7) + one text column (col 8)
I have around 50,000,000 rows per day inserted in the table T1. At the end of the day 40,000,000 rows are deleted. I have to keep the records for 12 months and then archive it. Database is 24/7 web serving and there is no down time allowed. IDENTITY column will go out of range (overflow) after less than two years, unless the identity seed is reset to the start value (seed=1, increment=1).
At the end of 12th month data is archived in another table and only last month is kept in the table T1. So table T1 enters new year with data from last month of the previous year. There are few other tables that refer to this table by using there own field with values from T1.IDENTITY column (referential integrity is not enforced). Identity column in T1 is needed as a unique id for some search actions. Performance is an issue therefore bigint data type is used for this identity column rather than decimal.
Another problem I have is how to do table update on one column (1 mil rows to be updated out of 2 mil of rows) with the minimum impact on the users who are querying this table heavily. Not need to mention that it is web app 24/7 no down time.
Thank you in advance.
Goran
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Jan 26, 2004
Hi,
I have some problems with our database which is growing too large, and was hoping someone might have some tips on what I can do!
I have about 100 clients, each logging about 10 000 rows of status logs a day. So after just a few days the db is growing very large.
At present it's manageable, since I don't need to "dig" into the logs more than a few times a day. The system it self is not affected by the size of the log or traffic on the server. But it will increase to about 500 clients in 2004, and 1000-1500 in 2005. So I really need a smarter solution than what I have today to be able to use the log efficiently.
98-99% of these rows are status-messages which are more or less garbage during normal operation. But I still need to keep them in case an error occurs, and we need to go back an hour or two (maybe a day) to see what went wrong. After 24-48 hours these 98-99% are of no use. I do however like to keep the remaining 1-2%, they are messages like startup, errors, etc. Ideally they should be logged in two separate tables by the clients, but unfortunatelly I cannot make the clients change their logging.
This presents problems on multiple levels. Mainly in searching, which often times out, but also with backup and storagespace. At the moment I check the system for errors, and every other day I just truncate the log-file. It works, but it's not exacly elegant......
The server is a 1100 MHz P3 / 512MB / Windows 2000 Server /
SQL Server 2000. Faster hardware would help, but the problem is more of a "bad design" than "slow hardware" problem.
My log is pretty simple, as follows:
LogId - int - primary key - clustered index
ClientId - int - index asc
LogTypeId - int - index asc
LogValue - nvarchar[2500], ikke index
LogTimeStamp- datetime - index asc
I have deducted 3 different solutions:
Method 1:
Simply run "Delete from db_log where logtyipeid <> stuff_I_want_to_keep".
This is the simplest and the one i prefer, but it takes too long time to complete. Any tips to speed this process up?
Method 2:
Create a trigger which runs something like "Delete from db_log where logtypeid <> stuff_I_want_to_keep and date < today_minus_two_days" every hour or so. This will ensure that the db doesn't grow to large. But if I'm away from work a few days we might loose data we'd wanted to keep.
Method 3:
Copy what I want to keep into another table, and empty the log. Sort of like "Insert into db_log_keep stuff_to_keep; drop db_log; create table db_log; " (or truncate, but that takes a long time too)
But then I would be stuck with two log tables, "48-hour_db_log" and "db_log_keep". I could use a view to "union" them so they would appear as a single table, but that's not ideal either.
However, it seems as this method is what will work best for my set-up, unless there are other suggestions??
Method 4:
...eagerly awaiting ideas!!! :-)
(Also, whatever tips and/or links to info on maintaing VLDB's are greatly appreciated. )
Thanks in advance for your help! :-)
Nikolai
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Sep 8, 2015
I have the following scenario:
SQL database on SQL 2012
Large Production table 15 Million record
The table has 3 years of data
New monthly data is being added every month.
A New Monthly data is being loaded, checked and finally approved after 6 or 7 iteration before approval.Because of this iteration the monthly data set is being added then deleted then added then deleted few times.Because the table is big this process takes time, any thoughts on how to make the delete insert process faster.Keep in mind I cannot do much because it is a production table and is being access by other users to do other analysis.
Delete is done based on trx_date which is a year/month combo, like 201508.
The table has monthly sales by customer aggregated.
The table structure is:
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[Sales](
[batch_key] [int] NOT NULL,
[Company_key] [int] NOT NULL,
[customer_key] [char](22) NOT NULL,
[Trx_Date] [int] NOT NULL,
[account] [nvarchar](35) NOT NULL,
[code].....
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Jul 4, 2007
Hi,
We are running SQL Server 2005 Ent Edition with SP2 on a Windows 2003 Ent. Server SP2 with Intel E6600 Dual core CPU and 4GB of RAM. We have an C# application which perform a large number of calculation that run in a loop. The application first load transactions that needs to be updated and then goes to each one of the rows, query another table get some values and update the transaction.
I have set a limit of 2GB of RAM for SQL server and when I run the application, it performs 5 records update (the process described above) per second. After roughly 10,000 records, the application slows down to about 1 record per second. I have tried to examine the activity monitor however I can't find anything that might indicate what's causing this.
I have read that there are some known issues with Hyper-Threaded CPUs however since my CPU is Dual-core, I do not know if the issue applies to those CPUs too and I have no one to disable one core in the bios.
The only thing that I have noticed is that if I change the Max Degree of Parallelism when the server slows down (I.e. From 0 to 1 and then back to 0), the server speeds up for another 10,000 records update and then slows down. Does anyone has an idea of what's causing it? What does the property change do that make the server speed up again?
If there is no solution for this problem, does anyone know if there is a stored procedure or anything else than can be used programmatically to speed up the server when it slows down? (This is not the optimal solution however I will use it as a workaround)
Any advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Joe
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