Merge Join Vs. Lookup Vs. Custom Script - Which Is Fastest?
Oct 20, 2006
Very often we have 50'000+ rows which you need to pull values from different source (e.g. CityNames from citycode in Excel file). Currently we are using Lookup - but the questions is which of those 3 options is best in performance wise?
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Nov 3, 2007
I'm doing a data conversion with one of my fields (SUMDWK) from one of the tables that will be used in a merge join. With the new, converted field, I do a look up. From this look up, I want to take a new field FiscalWeekOfYear, and replace the original field, SUMDWK. This is necessary because SUMDWK is one of the sorted fields. In the look up, it is not possible to change the Output Alias. Does anybody know a way around this? Thanks.
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Feb 7, 2006
I had this (what seems to be a) simple question asked today and I'm afraid I didn't like my answer. Does anyone know the proper answer to this one:
Any ideas on how I can constrain a lookup or merge join based on the dimension row's effective and expired dates so three criteria are needed as follows:
1. DataStagingSource.ModifyDate < DataWarehouseDimension.RowExpiredDate AND
2. DataStagingSource.ModifyDate >= DataWarehouseDimension.RowEffectiveDate AND
3. DataStagingSource.NaturalKey = DataWarehouseDimension.NaturalKey
-- Brian
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Jun 4, 2007
Hello all,
I am trying to think my way through a solution which I believe others have probably come across... I am trying to implement a matching routine wherein I need to match an address against a high value and a low value (or, for that matter an input date vs. a start and end date) to return the desired row ... i.e. if I were to use a straight vb program I would just use the following lookup:
"SELECT DISTINCT fire_id, police_ID, fire_opt_in_out, police_opt_in_out FROM ipt_tbl " & _
" WHERE zip_code = @zip_code AND addr_prim_lo <= @street_number AND addr_prim_hi >= @street_number " & _
" AND addr_prim_oe = @addr_prim_oe AND street_pre = @street_pre AND street_name = @street_name " & _
" AND street_suff = @street_suff AND street_post = @street_post " & _
" AND (expiry_date = '' OR expiry_date = '00000000' OR expiry_date > @expiry_date)" & _
" GROUP BY fire_ID, police_ID, fire_opt_in_out, police_opt_in_out"
My question, then, is how would you perform this type of query using a lookup / merge join or script? I have not found a way to implement a way to set the input columns? I can set the straight matches without a problem, i.e. lookup zip code = input zip code, but can't think of the correct way to set comparisons, i.e. lookup value 1 <= input value AND lookup value 2 >= input value
Any suggestions?
thanks for your time...
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Mar 15, 2004
If there is 13 million records in one table and 40 thousand records in another table then what is the fastest way of joining these two tables????
This was a question to me from somebody to which i cudn't answer back properly. Cud anybody tell the answer with properreasons behind the answer??????
Thanx.
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May 22, 2015
I have two xml source and i need only left restricted data.
how can i perform left restricted join?
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Aug 10, 2007
Scenario:
OLEDB source 1
SELECT ...
,[MANUAL DCD ID] <-- this column set to sort order = 1
...
FROM [dbo].[XLSDCI] ORDER BY [MANUAL DCD ID] ASC
OLEDB source 2
SELECT ...
,[Bo Tkt Num] <-- this column set to sort order = 1
...
FROM ....[dbo].[FFFenics] ORDER BY [Bo Tkt Num] ASC
These two tasks are followed immediately by a MERGE JOIN
All columns in source1 are ticked, all column in source2 are ticked, join key is shown above.
join type is left outer join (source 1 -> source 2)
result of source1 (..dcd column)
...
4-400-8000119
4-400-8000120
4-400-8000121
4-400-8000122 <--row not joining
4-400-8000123
4-400-8000124
...
result of source2 (..tkt num column)
...
4-400-1000118
4-400-1000119
4-400-1000120
4-400-1000121
4-400-1000122 <--row not joining
4-400-1000123
4-400-1000124
4-400-1000125
...
All other rows are joining as expected.
Why is it failing for this one row?
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Apr 20, 2008
what is the diff between lookup and merge transformation.
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Jun 5, 2006
I have a merge join (full outer join) task in a data flow. The left input comes from a flat file source and then a script transformation which does some custom grouping. The right input comes from an oledb source. The script transformation output is asynchronous (SynchronousInputID=0). The left input has many more rows (200,000+) than the right input (2,500). I run it from VS 2005 by right-click/execute on the data flow task. The merge join remains yellow and the task never finishes. I do see a row count above the flat file destination that reaches a certain number and seems to get stuck there. When I test with a smaller file on the left it works OK. Any suggestions?
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Nov 7, 2006
Is there a way to do a super-table join ie two table join with no matching criteria? I am pulling in a sheet from XL and joining to a table in SQLServer. The join should read something like €śfor every row in the sheet I need that row and a code from a table. 100 rows in the sheet merged with 10 codes from the table = 1000 result rows.
This is the simple sql (no join on the tables):
select 1.code, 2.rowdetail
from tblcodes 1, tblelements 2
But how to do this in SSIS?
Thanks - Ken
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May 6, 2008
I read that merge joins work a lot faster than hash joins. How would you convert a hash join into a merge join? (Referring to output on Execution Plan diagrams.)
THANKS
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Jul 22, 2007
Hello all.....
I got a doubt whether we can use Lookup as an inner join.
If I have duplicate keys in lookup source....can I get the duplicate rows also into the destination.
Ex:
source:
c1 c2 c3
--- --- ---
1 a1 b1
2 a2 b2
3 a3 b3
lookup table:
c1 c4 c5
--- --- ---
1 c1 d1
2 c21 c22
2 c23 c24
3 c3 c3
noe the result should be:
c1 c2 c3 c4 c5
-- -- -- -- --
1 a1 b1 c1 d1
2 a2 b2 c21 c22
2 a2 b2 c23 c24
3 a3 b3 c3 c3
in msdn I read the look up will get the first match.....is it possible to get all matches??
Thank you
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Sep 7, 2006
Hi there!
I'm trying to create a custom resolver for merge replication exactly like in the MS example.
It seems to work, but only ONE time. If I change, insert or delete a
record in a table the second time, the subscriber monitor comes with
the following errors:
Error messages:
Attempted to read or write protected memory. This is often an
indication that other memory is corrupt. (Source: MSSQL_REPL, Error
number: MSSQL_REPL-2147199411)
The Merge Agent encountered an error when executing code in the
'UpdateHandler' method implemented in the business logic handler
'D:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90COMMyResolver.dll'. Ensure
that the overridden 'UpdateHandler' method has been properly
implemented in the business logic handler. (Source: MSSQL_REPL,
Error number: MSSQL_REPL-2147199411)
This last error is of course dependant on my action (update, delete, insert).
My code is -exactly- like the example (I just stripped out the log message).
Does anyone know why I am "trying to read or write protected memory" ?
The thing is that I'm trying to create an application that detects if a
table changes. Is this the right way to do this anyway or are there
better solutions?
Any help is appreciated! Thanks!
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Jul 20, 2005
Folks,My secnario involves two tables - ObservationRegister, and Person.ObservationRegister contains most of the "useful" fields, includingthe UserID of the person that raised the record, and the UserID of theperson to whom the record was assigned for action. I need to write aquery to return all values in the ObservationRegister record, butinstead of returning the UserIDs, I need to look up the actual name,by looking up the name and userID in the Person table... doing thatonce (for just one of the UserID fields) is easy - a quick inner joindoes the job - but I effectively need to join to the Person table"twice", for different keys....Help? Please!? :)Steve
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Oct 30, 2006
I have gone through BOL and various online resources including this one and I can't find any examples on how to use custom conflict resolvers to generate a result row which is a combination of the rows to be merged.
BOL says it can be done, but suitable examples are missing. I have found various posts requesting examples from up to a year ago, but can see no replies with relevant information
In particular I would like to see examples of
1) A stored procedure based custom conflict resolver
2) A business logic handler written in VB .Net
Here's hoping
aero1
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Sep 1, 2006
Does anyone have a clue as to why DT_R4, DT_R8 are not allowed as join columns? This means I cannot join tables on AccountNumbers, InvoiceNumbers, etc. What a pain...
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Jun 22, 2007
Hi All, I have a sample Flat File, need to get a custom record layout out of it
Sample FlatFile Input:
============
RecordA.....
RecordB.....
OwnerAB.....
RecordC.....
RecordD.....
OwnerCD.....
......
Custom Output:
============
OwnerAB RecordA ............RecordB.....
OwberCD RecordC ..........RecordD..............
............
TIA
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Apr 26, 2004
I have got a query in which a merge join is 99% of the cost .... and I am confused ... is not merge join supposed to be the fastest ??? Anyone seen this before ???
Any ideas why this could be happening ... and sorry ... do not ask me to post the code coz I will not be able to ...
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Mar 3, 2008
Hi, all experts here,
Any advices for when will be a better way of using Merge join instead of other options?
Thank you very much and I am looking forward to hearing from you shortly.
Best regards,
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May 5, 2006
All,
I need to use Merge Join transformation to join two sources. One is from a PIVOT transformation and one of the output columns is ISSORTED, the other is from an OLE DB Source using a query. The Merge Join transformation requires both input source have to be sorted. I cannot find the ISSORTED property on the OLE DB Source!!
I tried to use Derived/ copy transformations but cannot find the property also. How can set the OLE query sorted in order to use the MergeJoin?
Thanks a lot
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Jun 15, 2007
Hello all,
I have a package where I use merge join for two sorted inputs and the output is stored in a raw file.
In another package, the raw file from above package is again merge joined with another sorted input. Now my question is....do we need to sort again the raw file from first package? or is it OK to set the isSorted property to True and define the sort keys?
Thank you.
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Dec 17, 2007
I am new to this SSIS.
I have a simple join query like this
select a.id from tbl_a a, tbl_b b where a.id = b.id and I want insert the result to my temp table.
the query results is 1500 rows.
but when I use merge join in SSIS, it only inserts to my temp table 4 rows.
I use inner join and I already set the IsSorted to true and specify the sort position for the columns in both source tables
In tbl_a, there are one million rows, in tbl_b, there are 2000 rows.
I don't know why the merge join cannot work out my task.Is there other way that I can just run this simple join query in SSIS to copy the data?
Please help, thanks in advance.
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Apr 30, 2008
Hello,
I have a Merge Join transformation and when i sort values in OLEDB source the merge join fails, but if i use a sort transformation it works! Why??
Best regards,
Fred
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Sep 29, 2006
Hi,
I have a SQL Statatment:
SELECT * FROM TABLE1 AS A
JOIN TABLE2 AS B
ON A.X= B.X
AND A.Y= B.Y
When i execute this code in sql server returns 549 lines. I created a package with two oledb sources one for each table, sorted the tables with fields X and Y after placed a Merge Join with the fields:
A.Y join B.Y order 1
A.X join B.X order 2
both fields with the Join Key checked
But my package return 411 lines.
What's happened?? :(
When a i have the code:
SELECT A.X, A.Y, B.X, B.Y
FROM TABLE1 AS A
JOIN TABLE2 AS B
ON A.X= B.X
When i did the join only one field SSIS worked fine, sql server returns 622 and SSIS returns 622 lines.
Please help-me...
Thanks,
André
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Nov 21, 2006
Hi guys! I'm trying to figure out how to join 3 tables, but I can't seem to find a solution. What I want to do is to put table 1, table 2 and table 3 into table_merged.
table_merged = table 1 + table 2 + table 3
Is it possible to merge tables even if they have different fields?
Please help.
Onegai shimasu...
Thanks in advance!
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Mar 27, 2006
i'm merge joining 2 data sources, one is oracle and the other is excel...the problem is in the oracle source, it's a sql statement like:
select hdr.div_ord_no, hdr.mtr_no, hdr.prod_cd
from qctrl_div_ord_header hdr,
(select max(sub.eff_dt_from) min_eff_dt_from, div_ord_no
from qctrl_div_ord_header sub
group by div_ord_no
) tmp
where hdr.eff_dt_from = tmp.min_eff_dt_from
and hdr.div_ord_no = tmp.div_ord_no
having that sql statement, merging will come out with 0 rows
however, having a simple query like:
select hdr.div_ord_no, hdr.mtr_no, hdr.prod_cd
from qctrl_div_ord_header hdr
merging will come out with 2 rows
you may think that the data in the first sql statement is not there for the merge, which causing the 0 rows, however, the data is there, i'm only joining by one column and definitely the data is there, the merge result should be 2 rows for both query statements
i believe this is a problem with SSIS, anyway around this?
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Mar 6, 2008
I am working on an ssis package and i find an problem while using the merge join for merging 2 OLEDB Data sources .
data source 1 is : - The table formed my an sal server comand , that out put is given to a multicast since i want to sare that output amoung 2o other tables.
So the the left input for the merge join is OLEDB source , which contains direct data from source table
I am usong Inner join on one column
The problem is i am not getting the expected rows as out put of merge .
I tried to join the two tables in sqlserver query window and i am getting expected result
What could be the problem
The first table is
Reservations.ReservationManual
second table is Out put of the following query
Select Distinct B.ReservationID as R
from Property.Main A ,Reservations.Reservations B ,Reservations.ReservationRooms C
Where
A.propertyID = B.PropertyId And
C.ReservationID = B.ReservationID And
getdate() >=C.Until +A.ReservationOffLineDays
i am not getting the expected result here in SSIS package merge join
But if i try to execute the following in query editer in management studio i am getting the expected result !!
declare @temp as table
(ResID Varchar(50)
)
Insert into @temp
(ResID)
Select Distinct B.ReservationID as R
from Property.Main A ,Reservations.Reservations B ,Reservations.ReservationRooms C
Where
A.propertyID = B.PropertyId And
C.ReservationID = B.ReservationID And
getdate() >=C.Until +A.ReservationOffLineDays
select * from Reservations.ReservationManual A , @temp b
Where A.reservationID = b.resID
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Oct 9, 2006
Hi,
I am trying to normalize data using the unpivot transform. I have to unpivot using more than one key so I have a multicast feeding into two unpivot transforms then into a sort transform. This is where my problem starts - I have tried using a Merge Join (inner Join) transform but dont get the expected result.
My original data looks like this:
Pk_ID
Choice1
Choice2
Feedback1
Feedback2
10
a
b
x
y
After the mulitcast - unpivot - Merge Join, the expected result is: (pk_newID is an identity)
Pk_newID
fk_ID
Choice
Feedback
563
10
a
x
564
10
b
y
However with a Merge-Join (inner join on pk_ID) I get
Pk_newID
fk_ID
Choice
Feedback
563
10
a
x
564
10
a
y
565
10
b
x
566
10
b
y
Is the Merge Join transform not the right choice?
Thanks
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Jan 10, 2008
I am trying to use the merge join example in the following link. To import new records only.
http://www.sqlis.com/311.aspx
The problem is that for some unkown reason the join is not woeking correctly. One of the records is incorrectly showing a NULL on the output. This would indicate that it would be a new record, but it is not it already exists in the new table.
I created a dummy table in SQL and executed the same join and I always get the right answer. What the heck could be wrong?
For example. Table A has 20 records Table B has 3 records. Table B has the new records I want to import into Table A. The package runs corectly the first time, only importing the 3 new records. Then the next time the package runs it shows 1 of the 3 records as being new still, and tries to import the record causing a PK error. Adding a watch to the MERGE output shows that the one record has a NULL on the join.
Please help this is driving me nuts.
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Mar 30, 2007
Hi, I'm using a Merge Join Component of Inner Join type to retrieve from the right pipeline some records to append to the ones coming from left pipeline according to the join citerias defined on the compnent.
Is there any way to know which are the records coming from the left pipeline that doesn't match the join criterias?
In the following I'll try to do an axample.
LF pipeline:
Column0 Column1 Column2
1 aaaa aa11
2 bbbb bb11
3 cccc cc11
4 dddd dd11
RT pipeline:
ColumnA ColumnB
1 aa22
4 dd22
On exiting from the MergeJoin, defining €śColumn0€? for LT as join key and €śColumnA€? for RT and as output data all the columns of the LT pipeline and the only ColumnB from the RT pipeline it should be obtained the following records:
Column0 Column1 Column2 ColumnB
1 aaaa aa11 aa22
4 dddd dd11 dd22
and the records from the LT pipeline:
2 bbbb bb11
3 cccc cc11
shouldn't go in the output from the Merge Join Component.
What I need to know is which are these last lines because I need to manage them.
Thanks!
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Oct 19, 2007
I'm trying to compare two fields between two tables using a Merge Join that runs into a conditional. This conditional sorts mismatched rows from validated ones but its returning incorrect mismatches (which means the mismatch is actually a match).
TABLE1 has two DT_STR fields with length 16 and TABLE2 had two DT_STR fields with length 32.
I've used a data conversion component to lengthen the first table's fields to a length of 32 but there still seems to be incorrect mismatches. For example TABLE1 had "AAA" and "BBB" and this appeared as a mismatch. If I used Query Analyzer to check TABLE2 for this criteria it would exist (which means it IS a match).
Is there any way to view hidden characters (i.e. carriage returns, tabs) in those fields? I've tried using RTRIM in my SQL Query for both my data sources and they still don't match up.
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Nov 7, 2006
I've run into something that looks like a bug to me but I wanted to run it by the board:
Merge join 2 sorted tables.
Table1: ColumnA : Sort Order 1, ColumnB Sort Order 2
Table2 : ColumnA: Sort Order 1, ColumnB Sort Order 2, ColumnC not sorted
Merge Join the two tables on ColumnA and ColumnB...
Choose the following as output columns
A + B + C = works
C = works
A + C = works
B + C = NOT work.. error message: The column with the SortKeyPosition value of 0 is not valid. It should be 2.
Basically if you choose one or more of the sorted columns in the output at least one of them has to be the column with Sort position 1 or you'll get that error.
Is this a bug or intentional? If you do not have sort column 1 in the output that output could no longer be considered sorted... so perhaps the error is related to that (instead of error I'd expect some warning about the sorting). Interesting that it lets you choose C only becuase that also makes the output unsorted.
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