Merge Replication: Problems Upgrading SQL-2000 To 2005

Dec 25, 2006

Hello!

We have a module in our business-application, that automatically installs merge replication of the business-application's database, both at publisher and subscribers. It's intended for Sql-2000. Now we need it to be applicable also for Sql-2005, so the module requires some changes, because, as we noticed, sql-2005's replication technology differs from Sql-2000's one.

A few questions to experts, familiar with Merge Replication in SQL-2005:

1. Is it possible to create hybrid replication, with publisher running at SQL-2000 (MSDE) and subscribers running at SQL-2005 Express? Merge publication is not supported in SQL 2005 Express, but some users may require option to use the application at free-of-charge database platform.

2. How deep are changes in merge replication implementation at system level? Is it just modified a bit since SQL-2000, or changed entirely? This knowledge is needed, because the module uses some low-level features (executing system sp's, querying replication-specified tables, etc.). For example, when we tried to create subscription of existing publication in SQL 2005 using the module as is, we found out that sp_addmergepullsubscription_agent doesn't use @encrypted_password parameter anymore, and subscription creation process failed.

3. If anybody has experience using merge replication creation/deletion/detection scripts, generated by SQL 2000, in SQL 2005! Please, tell - what more problems may happen?

Thanks!

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Problems With Merge Rep After Upgrading From Sql Server 2000 Sp3a To Sql Server 2005 Build 2153

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Hi,

We just upgraded 2 sql servers from sql server 2000 sp3a to sql server 2005 build 2153, and merge rep exists between these 2 servers.

However, after sql server upgrade, we had to reinitialize merge replication and now the merge agent is reporting 2 errors

1)

Error messages:


The Merge Agent failed to upgrade triggers, metadata and stored procedures on the Subscriber to versions compatible with SQL Server 2005. Restart synchronization, and if this failure continues to occur reinitialize the subscription. (Source: MSSQL_REPL, Error number: MSSQL_REPL-2147199403)
Get help: http://help/MSSQL_REPL-2147199403

Invalid column name 'metadata_select_proc'. (Source: MSSQLServer, Error number: 207)
Get help: http://help/207

Invalid column name 'delete_proc'. (Source: MSSQLServer, Error number: 207)
Get help: http://help/207

2)

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{call sp_MSensure_single_instance (N'Merge Agent Name', 4)}

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The merge process could not connect to the Publisher 'Server:database'. Check to ensure that the server is running. (Source: MSSQL_REPL, Error number: MSSQL_REPL-2147199368)
Get help: http://help/MSSQL_REPL-2147199368

Another merge agent for the subscription(s) is running or the server is working on a previous request by the same agent. (Source: MSSQLServer, Error number: 21036)
Get help: http://help/21036

looking inside the sp_MSensure_single_instance stored procedure, it's trying to obtain an exclusive lock on resource 'Merge Agent Name' but fails and returns -1

this is the stored procedure executed by sp_MSensure_single_instance and @retcode = -1 and thus cannot obtain exclusive lock on resource

EXEC @retcode = sys.sp_getapplock @Resource = 'Merge Agent Name',

@LockMode = 'Exclusive',

@LockOwner = 'Session',

@LockTimeout = 0,

@DbPrincipal = 'MSmerge_PAL_role'

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i've tried many things to fix this, including scripting out and dropping all merge rep, turning off replication db option and reapplying replication create scripts on the server, and even manually deleting the MSmerge_PAL_role database role but still doesn't work

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Machine : <Node B of Cluster>
Product : Microsoft SQL Server 2005
Product Version : 9.00.1399.06
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Log File : \Node AC$Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90Setup BootstrapLOGFilesSQLSetup0005_NodeB_SQL.log
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____________________________________________

Following is the logs in file \Node AC$Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90Setup BootstrapLOGFilesSQLSetup0005_NodeB_SQL.log


*********************************************************************************************************************************************

Loaded DLL:
C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90Setup Bootstrapsqlboot.dll
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2005.90.1399.0

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Condition "allowableBaseVersion_MSSQLSERVER SQL 8.0 SQL Server Standalone Product MSSQLSERVER" returned false.
Loaded DLL:
C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90Setup Bootstrapsqlboot.dll
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2005.90.1399.0

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maintenance_MSSQLSERVER SQL 8.0 SQL Server Standalone Product MSSQLSERVER
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Loaded DLL:
C:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL Server90Setup Bootstrapsqlboot.dll
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2005.90.1399.0

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FeaturePhaseAction
at:
Info 2008.2008
/
1
/
4

17
:
26
:
17

Complete:
FeaturePhaseAction
at:
Info 2008.2008
/
1
/
4

17
:
26
:
17
, returned
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Windows Error Text: Source File Name: sqlcaupgradeproduct.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Mon Sep 19 01:07:45 2005
Function Name: sqls::UpgradeProduct::CanUpgrade
Source Line Number: 142

---- Context -----------------------------------------------

Setting status of unmanaged components and removing unmanaged resources

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Service pack requirement check:
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Error 29543. Your upgrade is blocked. For more information about upgrade support, see the "Version and Edition Upgrades" and "Hardware and Software Requirements" topics in SQL Server 2005 Setup Help or SQL Server 2005 Books Online.
Service pack requirement check:
Your upgrade is blocked because of service pack requirements. To proceed, apply the required service pack and then rerun SQL Server Setup. For more information about upgrade support, see the Version and Edition Upgrades topic in SQL Server 2005 Setup Help or SQL Server 2005 Books Online.

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<EndFunc Name='SetCAContext' Return='T' GetLastError='0'>
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PerfTime Start: ValidateUpgrade : Mon Feb 04 17:26:39 2008
<Func Name='ValidateUpgrade'>
Added FTE to SqlUpgrade property
Added REPL to SqlUpgrade property
<Func Name='updateFeatureSellection'>
Error Code: 0x80077367 (29543)
Windows Error Text: Source File Name: sqlcaupgradeproduct.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Mon Sep 19 01:07:45 2005
Function Name: sqls::UpgradeProduct::CanUpgrade
Source Line Number: 142

---- Context -----------------------------------------------


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<Finished SQL statement: Wed Oct 10 21:25:21 2007>
<Started SQL statement: Wed Oct 10 21:25:21 2007> BEGIN DECLARE @GroupName AS nvarchar(4000) SET @GroupName = QUOTENAME(N'PROPMAN-DATASQLServer2005MSFTEUser$PROPMAN-DATA$MSSQLSERVER') EXECUTE(N'grant execute on sp_fulltext_getdata to ' + @GroupName) END
<Finished SQL statement: Wed Oct 10 21:25:22 2007>
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Service MSSQLSERVER with parameters '' is being started at Wed Oct 10 21:25:34 2007
Attempt to start service when it is already running
SQL service MSSQLSERVER started successfully waiting for SQL service to accept client connections
Service MSSQLSERVER started at Wed Oct 10 21:25:40 2007
<EndServerDowntime Wed Oct 10 21:25:40 2007>
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C:WINNTsystem32Odbc32.dll
Version:
3.526.3959.0


SQL_ERROR (-1) in OdbcConnection::connect
sqlstate=01S00, level=-1, state=-1, native_error=0, msg=[Microsoft][SQL Native Client]Invalid connection string attribute

Error Code: 0x8007ea62 (60002)
Windows Error Text: Source File Name: libodbc_connection.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Fri Jul 29 01:13:53 2005
Function Name: OdbcConnection::connect@upgradeconnect
Source Line Number: 148



---- Context -----------------------------------------------


sqls:equenceInstaller::launchAction
Staring action SqlScript
SqlUpgradeScriptHlpr
Connecting to SQL Server
ExecuteUpgradeSqlCommands
sqlConnect
Originial error was 8007ea62 (60002)



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C:WINNTsystem32Odbc32.dll
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3.526.3959.0


SQL_ERROR (-1) in OdbcConnection::connect
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Error Code: 0x8007ea62 (60002)
Windows Error Text: Source File Name: libodbc_connection.cpp
Compiler Timestamp: Fri Jul 29 01:13:53 2005
Function Name: OdbcConnection::connect@upgradeconnect
Source Line Number: 148



---- Context -----------------------------------------------

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