Mining Model Prediction Results
Feb 11, 2008
Is there a way to display the actual predicted value for an output attribute for a particular model. For example, say I am trying to predict if a particular customer is going to take advantage of a promotion (0=no, 1=yes) and I use neural networks. I know that I can use "Predict" to give me the prediction "yes" or "no" for each customer. However, the neural network actually spits out a number as a result. For example, a 0.997 would be interpreted as a "yes" for life insurance promotion. I do not want the probability that the prediction is correct. I want the actual output for the network.
The reason being is that I want to compute an error rate between the predicted value and the acutal value (root mean squared error or some other measure). Is there a way to compute this using the mining model prediction tab design view? I do not want to write the actual query as I teach a course in data mining using SQL Server and my students do not know DMX queries.
Thanks for any help you can provide.
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Jun 26, 2007
Mining Model Prediction... what for?
Which Data Mining algorithm use Mining Model Prediction?
Every algorithm has to use Mining Model Prediction for a final goal of a Data Mining Project?
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Sep 14, 2007
Hi,
I am not getting Mining Accuracy Chart and Min ing Model Prediction
Plz tel me how to do.And how to use the filter input data used to generate the lift chart and
select predictable mining model columns to show in the lift chart
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Dec 28, 2007
HI
Thanks a lot for your answer
I say my request but I don€™t know why anybody don€™t answer me
I have a project about predicting a value about selling and buying of a good like t-shirts and I use data mining for my project ,so I should use time series algorithm ,that €˜s mean I have previous data about t-shirts for 11 months ago and now I should say for 12th month ,how many t-shirts are sale?
My tables saved on the excel file and it is problem, because how should I use this table for building model?
After building a model and structure and predicting the value of 12th month for this store in the mining model then I use this query in model in bi:
€œSELECT
PredictTimeSeries(amount)
From
[Forecasting]€?
This query showed a column and prediction value.
After all of that now I should show this value in the application so I use c# language for building it, so I use a form in c# then I add a button to form that with clicking on this button, I can connect to my structure and then show process of connecting in the panel, then with clicking on the other button I can use this query
(€œSELECT
PredictTimeSeries(amount)
From
[Forecasting]€?
) and after using I can see prediction value in the textbox, that€˜s mean the value of 12th month show on textbox.
Form has two buttons: one button is for connecting to mining structure and other button is for sending PredictTimeSeries query to structure, one textbox, which is for showing the predicting value for 12th month for selling t-shirts, one panel for viewing the lift chart.
Also you say
You are building an application that programmatically creates mining structure and a model, and then you want to train the model and display some results.
And I don€™t know how can I train my model, I should use a special code for it?
If your answer is say, please explain that and then say that codes are for training.
Please if you can send c# code for Sporadic of stage, please send that, I need to this code; my request is emergency for me.
Thanks a lot
i am very sad because any body don't answer me
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Nov 29, 2006
I am using BI Dev Studio for SS2005 in a research (as opposed to a production) environment. Often I want to compare the results of multiple models using the same attributes. If I switch to a different model, the Design view completely resets. Is there any way to retain the same field names with different models in the Design view?
My current workaround is to give my models similar names with AR, DT, CL, LOG, NN suffixes and make global changes in the DMX.
I have consulted the following without finding an answer:
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms178445.aspx
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms175642.aspx
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms175678.aspx
http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms175637.aspx
Thanks for your help,
Sam
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Feb 19, 2008
Hi all,
I have a very simple time series model which processing works fine without any problem. However when I run the following query
SELECT
[TimeSeries].[PriceChange],
[TimeSeries].[Symbol],
PredictTimeSeries(PriceChange, -3, 2)
From
[TimeSeries]
WHERE
[TimeSeries].[Symbol] = 'x'
I get the following error:
TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Analysis Services
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Error (Data mining): A time series prediction was requested with a start time further in the past than the internal models of the mining model, TimeSeries, specified in the HISTORIC_MODEL_GAP and HISTORIC_MODEL_COUNT parameters can process.
The following is the excerpt of the minding model script related to the two parameters:
<AlgorithmParameters>
<AlgorithmParameter>
<Name>MISSING_VALUE_SUBSTITUTION</Name>
<Value xsi:type="xsdtring">Previous</Value>
</AlgorithmParameter>
<AlgorithmParameter>
<Name>HISTORIC_MODEL_GAP</Name>
<Value xsi:type="xsd:int">1</Value>
</AlgorithmParameter>
<AlgorithmParameter>
<Name>HISTORIC_MODEL_COUNT</Name>
<Value xsi:type="xsd:int">10</Value>
</AlgorithmParameter>
</AlgorithmParameters>
These HISTORIC_MODEL_GAP (1) and HISTORIC_MODEL_COUNT (10) should accommodate PredictTimeSeries(PriceChange, -3, 2). Could anyone shed some light on this?
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Feb 5, 2008
Hello,
I've just created a Sales Forecasting Mining Model. How do i export the predicted time series values into a table?? Is there any tutorial explaining this.
Regards,
RG
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Nov 15, 2006
I get the following error when I try to load the mining model in the mining model viewer
Query (1, 6) The '[System].[Microsoft].[AnalysisServices].[System].[DataMining].[NeuralNet].[GetAttributeValues]' function does not exist.
I get a similar error when I try to load the Load Mining Accuracy Chart
Failed to execute the query due to the following error:
Query (1, 6) The '[System].[Microsoft].[AnalysisServices].[System].[DataMining].[AllOther].[GenerateLiftTableUsingDatasource]' function does not exist.
I have OWC 11 installed. What am I missing here?
Thanks
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Apr 26, 2006
Hi, all here,
I am wondering where can I store my mining results in data mining engine? For example, I got mining results like accuracy chart, decision trees, and other formats of results based on different mining algorithms I used for my data mining, so where can I actually store the results for reporting service use later? Is it possible to do that in SQL Server 2005?
Thanks a lot for any help and guidance in advance.
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Apr 11, 2007
Hi,
I am trying to model data in analysis services with the Advance Create Mining Model function in the excel addin. I am having trouble creating an association model that works like the Associate button above the Advanced button.
The format of my data is like this
OrderID Product
100 Bike
100 Helmet
100 Shoes
200 Helmet
200 basketball
200 Bat
300 Shoes
300 Socks
The associate button works perfectly since it asks me which column is the transaction id (orderid) and which column I am trying to predict (product). The advanced create mining model asks me to determine what the columns are...
OrderID=key Product=Input+Predict?
When I run the advance create mining model associate, I get a browser that gives me no rules and the support for only one item itemset (each product but no combination of products).
Does anyone know what I have to do to get it to work like the associate button?
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May 23, 2006
Hi again....
I have tree models trained and now how do I perform predictions? I've read that i can use ADO in my vb language so could anyone give me some code lines about prediction using ADO and Vb language? and how to view the prediction in my vb application?
Thank's a lot
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Oct 18, 2006
Dear friends,
I encounter a serious problem.
I would like to develop an application that can create Data Mining structures and a mining model in SQL Server 2005 with VB.NET. I tried the code from book Data Mining with SQL server 2005 in chapter 14 but did not work. Any good idea?
Please help me.
Best regards,
Manolis
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Oct 20, 2006
Thank you very much for your help.
The errors that I can see in the code that you gave in your answer are the following and they are more or less the same as I had previously
I tried the code but initially I have encounter the following problems.
1. In any line that have the declaration As Server, As Database like in
Public Function CreateDatabase(ByVal srv As Server, ByVal databaseName As String) As Database gives me the problem that type Database is not declared the same type Server is not declared and it does not give me any option.
2. In addition to that for As DataSource, As RelationalDataSource, As RelationalDataSourceView, As ScalarMiningStructureColumn, As DataSourceViewBinding, gives me the problem that type is not declared.
3. Finally in mc = New MiningModelColumn("Yearly income", Utils.GetSyntacticallyValidID("Yearly income", Type.GetType(MiningModelColumn))) is not accesible in this context because it is 'Private'.
I have some more problems but I thing that by solving the above that I referred I will solve the rest.
Thank you any way.
Best regards,
Manolis
PhD student
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Jul 18, 2006
I perform data mining on all products and a specific product category.
Do I need to create 2 data source views, one for all products and the other one for the specific product category?
Afterward, I run the Data Mining Wizard 2 times to create 2 mining structures.
I also need to add the same mining model (e.g. Bayes, Cluster) to each of these mining structures.
Is there any simple way to do it?
Thanks.
Joe.
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Dec 31, 2006
I have a market basket model using associations. It generated several dozen itemsets. However when I attempt to run a singleton prediction like this:
select (Predict(Orderproduct3q,INCLUDE_STATISTICS,10)) as [Recommendation]
From
[Case All]
NATURAL PREDICTION JOIN
(SELECT (SELECT '16407' AS [Pname])) AS t1
the resulting predictions don't take the itemsets into account. Instead, the predictions consist of the ranked products in the training set, ordered by frequency. This appears to happen regardless of the precise query specified within the "natural prediction join".
What's going on here and how do I generate a singleton prediction which makes use of the itemsets?
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Jun 29, 2015
which things(I mean columns/elements) we need to consider to implement crime prediction in an efficient way.Now Using PAST DATA , we are giving prediction for, Â Location wise + crimes wise how many (count of Incidents)Â Incidents going to be occur in future.
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Dec 12, 2006
I have a question about writing a prediction query against a clustering model that has the same column added more than once.
Per Jamie, I can accomplish some crude weighting by adding a column to my model multiple times. See this post for an explnation... Now that I have that worked out, I was wondering how my DM query would look? If I have Input_A1, Input_A2 , & Input_A3 all being source from the same column in my structure do I have to reference all three when writing my prediction query?
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Aug 2, 2006
Hi,
I have built a time series model to forecast sales value
I have data from jan 2004 to jan 2006 and the sales value is
at a day level in my database. But I am aggregating it to month level in the
DSV of the mining model.
I am required to make only historical predictions using the
above model starting form jan 2004 to jan 2006 for every month.
I have set Historical_Model_Count
and Historical_Model_Gap parameter
values to 24 and 10 respectively, and trying to predict for the past few months
(PredictTImeseries(SalesValue,-1,1))
But its throwing me the following error
Error(Data Mining): A time series
prediction was requested with a start time further in the past than the
internal models of the mining model, Sales Forecast, specified in the
HISTORIC_MODEL_GAP and HISTORIC_MODEL_COUNT parameters can process
In fact it throws the above error irrespective of what the Historical_Model_Count and Historical_Model_Gap parameter values
are
I am not able to figure our why this problem is happening?
What should the parameter values for the above scenario?
It would also be helpful if I can get an explanation on how
these two parameters affect the historical predictions. I kind of understand
that these two parameters are important for historical predictions but don€™t
know why or how.
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Aug 3, 2006
Hello...
I am new to SSAS and i want to try to build a "Sales" model. I will have some "Usage" data for some timespanns, but I am not quite sure how to tackle this. Is there somewhere a "Howto" for this?
Edit: There are several locations, and for each location a forecast is needed. And the Icing would be If I would be able to tell where my supplies must go 1st to achieve the best sales...
The potential Client wants to use Oracle but I would like to show them that SQL Server is the better tool for this ;)
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Sep 29, 2015
I followed the tutorial posted at [URL] ...
Everything was ok until the last step where I had to process the mining structure which resulted in a warning
"Informational (Data mining): Decision Trees found no splits for model, Tbl Decision Tree Example."
What does this error mean? How do I resolve it? Also, I only see the first level in the Mining Model Viewer, I don't see the levels 2 and 3.
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Oct 27, 2007
Hi all,
I have MS Time Seeries model using a database of over a thousand products each of which has hundreds of cases. It amazingly takes only a few minutes to finish processing the model, but when I click Mining Model Viewer to view the models, it takes many hours to show up. Once the window is open, I can choose model for different products almost instantly. Is this normal?
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Aug 30, 2007
Dear All,
I have a database table which has all the inputs, key and the result. In visual studio, I created a decision tree model which has exactly the same fields as in the table. However the visual studio automatically add space preceding the capital letters. As the field name in the Datamining model and those in the database table are slightly different. I cannot use NATURAL prediction join. Is there anyway to told the visual studio not to add the spaces in the variable names?
Thanks and regards,
Tony Chun Tung Siu
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Feb 7, 2007
Can anyone show me how to run a prediction query and save the results to a sql table without using the T-SQL OPENQUERY tip here http://www.sqlserverdatamining.com/DMCommunity/TipsNTricks/3914.aspx? I am looking for an example in vb.net that I can use in a SSIS script task.
Thanks
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Aug 17, 2006
Hi,
I've tried those two operations in the Management Studio.
Though we can create a mining structure and mining model in Management Studion,
but we cannot process the analysis-service database.
(1) I create only a mining structure through CREATE MINING STRUCTURE.
No error reported. But if I process the analysis-service database in Management Studio I always get error
'Error : The '<mining_structure__name>' structure does not contain bindings to data
(or contain bindings that are not valid) and cannot be processed.
I then tried to create it by creating and running an XMLA script. It was successful.
However, it's much harder to learn XMLA.
If any of you created an analysis-service database in Mgt Studio, and create a mining
structure in the same place using DMX script, can you process the database?
(2) Is there any use of CREATE MINING STRUCTURE operation without binding
to any table? Examples I saw so far did not show relating it to do. In my experience
processing the analysis-service database with that mining structure is doomed to fail.
(3) Is there any way we can create mining structure through CREATE MINING
STRUCTURE operation in Management Studio and use RELATED TO clause
to bind it to any Relationship to an attribute column (mandatory only if it applies), indicated by
the RELATED TO clause
(4) If this is the fact, is there any use of CREATE MINING STRUCTURE operation?
If we use BI Dev Studio, it's much easier to use the wizard.
(5) I found I cannot create a mining model inside a mining structure through operation
CREATE MINING MODEL. If you call that operation, you end up having a mining
model and a mining structure with the same name. I found that in order to create a
mining model inside a mining structure you have to call operation ALTER MINING
STRUCTURE ADD MINING MODEL. Is it true this is the only way?
Thank you,
Bernaridho
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May 29, 2006
I believe saving prediction query results to relational tables is possible (the BI studio does it!). I am not clear on how to do this w/o the BI studio, which means if I write a DMX query and want to store its output to a relational table, how do I do it?
Tips, anyone?
Thanks!
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May 17, 2007
Hi,
I'm working on a project to create a mining model.I have one "flattened" table with a productID (key) and related attributes. Example columns are weight, color, price, units sold last year, product category, product rating (top seller, etc) and similar columns, about 40 in total. There are about 15,000 products and same number of rows in the table.
The objective is to pass a ProductID (that also exists in the table) and get back the top N products that most resemble the source product based on all the attributes.
Any advice on which models I should test and how to set up the models would be much appreciated. Also if there is a similar example/sample out there, please let me know. I downloaded the MovieClick sample, but that doesn't work in my case as I only have the equivalent of the Customers table.
Thanks in Advance.
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Dec 6, 2006
hi,
I newly Installed my SQL 2005.When I try to train my Model its giving me "Key not valid for use in specified state." Can anyone help me how to figure it out?
Thanks,
Karthik
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Sep 18, 2006
i want create a model to predict what product i should Ads for customer at time.
example: in summer, i should show the , drinks (coca, pepsi) , ice food, bikini, sandals, glasses. in winter, i should show shoes, coats, hot food....
i have some table:
order(orderid, time,cusid...)
product(productid,..)
orderdetails(orderid, productid..)
customers(cuisid,....)
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Mar 4, 2007
i have a problem, because i have 3 tables.
One name "CallPair" contain: id- identity number, from - phone number, to - phone number.
Second name "Talk" contain: id - identity number, callPairId - id from "CallPair" table, date
Third name "Transaction" contain: id - identity number is a number of transaction, idTalk - id from Talk table, callNr - number of talk in transaction
I want mining model to sequence clustering, but i don't know how build case and nested table
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May 24, 2007
I have one main mining structure and several mining models that are using the MS Decision Trees algorithm. I have a Reporting Services report that displays the model using a table. I want to set it up so that in the DMX query, I can use a parameter to specify which model to use. That way I just have one report that can reference multiple models. For example I would like to do something like this:
SELECT FLATTENED * FROM [@model].CONTENT
This doesn't work because I get the error message:
Preparation of DMX query failed. Error (Data mining): Either the user, user, does not have permission to access the referenced mining model, @model, or the object does not exist. (Microsoft SQL Server 2005 Analysis Services)
We are running SSAS 2005 SP2. Is there a way to accomplish this?
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Aug 7, 2006
Hi,
In the attribute discrimination viewer provided as Web
Controls is it possible to format the visualization.
Sort the attributes by Win
factors first and then Loss factors, so they look like this:
Favors Win Favors
Loss
--------------
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2. Change the colors
of the win bar and the lose bar
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Mar 22, 2007
i try to process datamining with DMX
first i create new mining:
CREATE MINING model ForexData ( timeseri DATE KEY, Xhnow TEXT DISCRETE, Muccl TEXT DISCRETE, Change TEXT DISCRETE, XH5be TEXT DISCRETE, XH3be TEXT DISCRETE, XH1be TEXT DISCRETE , XH1ne TEXT DISCRETE PREDICT_only, XH3ne TEXT DISCRETE PREDICT_only, XH5ne TEXT DISCRETE PREDICT_only)Using Microsoft_Association_Rules (Minimum_Probability = 0.4, Minimum_Support = 0.01)
after that i use insert into statement:
INSERT INTO mining model ForexData(Change,Muccl,Timeseri ,XH1be,XH1ne,XH3be,XH3ne,XH5be,XH5ne)OPENQUERY([Forex DB],'Select Change,Muccl,Timeseri ,XH1be,XH1ne,XH3be,XH3ne,XH5be,XH5ne FROM dbo.dataprice')
there is the fisrt time i deploy ForexData so, it return an error:
Errors in the OLAP storage engine: An error occurred while the 'timeseri' attribute of the 'ForexData_Structure ~MC-timeseri' dimension from the 'Analysis Services Project1' database was being processed.
i dont know about it, i have read some docs and comments on web but can solve this problem, can you help me?
as soon as posible, please
i have create a data source and data source view by BI and it return database is 'Analysis Services Project1'. and data source name: 'Forex DB' ;data source VIEW name: 'Forex DB' ;
nick yahoo: remember_somebody; contact to me if you can, i really need these infomation
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Dec 7, 2007
Hi all,
Here is my problem, I developed a forecasting mining model(forecasting.dmm) in SQL Server using Analysis Services Tool. I want to Access the mining model viewer chart(prediction chart) by using localhost in InternetExplorer.
I want to know How to access the charts using Report Server of Sql Server 2005(not the data part, the prediction chart)
Can you please help me.
Thank you,
mahesh manthena
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