Mirroring :: Log Shipping Cross Different Domains
Oct 27, 2015
SQL Server 2012 SP2 - WIndows 2008 R2.
We are currently doing Mirroring from one domain to another (On a different subnet/network) via
Network1
DomainABCSQLAccount1 - Password1 -----> SQL Server Service Account
DomainABCSQLAccount2 - Password2 -----> SQL Server Agent Service Account
Network2
DomainABCSQLAccount1 - Password1 -----> SQL Server Service Account
DomainABCSQLAccount2 - Password2 -----> SQL Server Agent Service Account
And it works. We are planning to do the Log shipping but this time different Domain but same userID and Password
Network1
DomainABCSQLAccount1 - Password1 -----> SQL Server Service Account
DomainABCSQLAccount2 - Password2 -----> SQL Server Agent Service Account
Network2
DomainDEFSQLAccount1 - Password1 -----> SQL Server Service Account
DomainDEFSQLAccount2 - Password2 -----> SQL Server Agent Service Account
Is this possible without TRUST between the domains ?
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Sep 24, 2007
I not too hot on networking. When I type "IPCONFIG /ALL" the "Prmary DNS Suffix" is empty. Does this mean I have no domain? Can I configure a mirror on this server?
Thanks in advance.
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Apr 30, 2015
I'm allowed to do Log Shipping from x.contoso.com to y.contoso.com, however there is a requirement to have the same data made available to servers residing on z.contoso.com.
Connectivity between x.contoso.com and z.contoso.com is not permitted, so configuring log shipping with multiple targets is not possible.y.contoso.com and z.contoso.com can talk to each other, so what is the most efficient way to move data from y to z.
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Mar 21, 2007
We have 2 servers each having a domain (i.e. 2 domains) running
Windows Server 2003
Standard Edition
Service Pack 1
We would like to have one of the servers replicate/mirror the data on to the other but we are getting this error
The error produced from the mirroring part is:
TITLE: Database Properties
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An error occurred while starting mirroring.
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Alter failed for Database 'CTSM'. (Microsoft.SqlServer.Smo)
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An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch. (Microsoft.SqlServer.ConnectionInfo)
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The server network address "TCP://UM_db_live.UMlive.local:5022" cannot be reached or does not exist. Check the network address name and that the ports for the local and remote endpoints are operational. (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 1418)
Thank you.
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May 13, 2015
Lets say I have a single instance SQL Server on a 2 node cluster with node names Server X and Server Y. These are part of Domain A.
SQL Agent Account runs under service account - DomainASQLAct.
Now I have Server Z which is a standalone SQL Instance on Domain B and there is no trust between domain A and B, not even one way trust.
Even though I dont have trust, I need to configure log shipping for the SQL Instance which is clustered under Domain A to a standalone box in Domain B.
Microsoft recommends Local Account(SQL Agent) to be used for Cross Domain Log Shipping. Also when there is no trust, MSFT recommends to use the same login name and password, however as my setup includes a cluster and cluster cannot have local account I'm not sure what will be the best strategy to follow here.
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Feb 26, 2008
I'm not personally a DBA or claim to be a database expert, instead I am a software architect who works closely with database architects and DBA's. I'm presently architecting a system where we will have a smart client used in both Europe and the United States from the same database instance.
The system is to be used for performance testing of devices and then the results will be available to management through the same smart client used by test engineers etc. The first release is operational in the United States today with Poland coming online shortly.
Today we are weighing our options between having cross-geo database mirroring or merely having the database server in the United States with application server level caching implemented in Poland and the United States.
The .net framework's Windows Communication Foundation is used with a netTcpBinding and the service layer is asynchronous with the reliableSession option enabled.
Does anyone have any feedback on whether you would go with cross-geo database mirroring or would you use local application servers with possibly some caching capabilities at that layer? Please also describe the benefits and any risks associated with each also...
Thanks in advance,
Doug Holland
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Oct 11, 2007
Hi,
I have the following scenario
1. 2 databases A & B which are both mirrored in high safety mode (manual failover)
2. The mirror of A & B are on a separate and remote site in relation to the Principal
3. Some of the application functions insert/update to database A&B as one transaction unit
My query is give the above scenario should I expect any DB incosistency on the mirror Partners for A & B in relation to cross db transactions? I believe not as the update on the Primary should be commited as whole on both Principal databases & mirror databases prior to the client getting confirmation on commit.
Further my understanding is that even in an automated failover with synchronous mirroring there should be no issues with cross DB transactions.
Are my assertions correct?
Thanking you in advance for any feedback.
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Nov 23, 2006
Hi
I€™m about to move all our databases from an old lousy server to a brand new HP setup.
I have 8 databases (total of approx 100Gb) and I get 2 BL25p servers and SAN access for them.
Now, I want high availability and I like the idea of mirroring the databases for achieving that. On the other hand I don€™t like the idea of the mirror server doing almost nothing while the principal gets the entire load €“ seems like a waste of good resources.
But is this really the situation or mirror server also be loaded, just for being the mirror?
Now, if the main load is on the principal would I then benefit from distributing the databases on both servers, so both servers would act like principal and mirror?
What I mean is that server 1 could be principal for DB 1-4 while server 2 would mirror these DB€™s and likewise serever 2 would be principal for DB 5-8 and server 1 would mirror them.
Does it make sense? Would I benefit anything from this?
Thx a lot
Nicolaj
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Feb 4, 2008
This may be a newbie question but...
Say for example DatabaseA has failed over to the mirror. Then you call a stored procedure in that database that queries a table on DatabaseB that is on the principle (has not failed). What happens? Is mirroring smart enough to know that? If not, are there workarounds? Perphaps manually failing over the other databases?
Thanks
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Oct 25, 2006
Hi
I'm looking at replicating our primary SQL server to a secondary offsite server (linked via 100Mb so effectively LAN speed). What are people's preference when deciding on a solution?
On the surface mirroring looks much better but having dug a little I've found it is recommended only 10 databases are mirrored per instance. That said, I've found a post from someone who is upto 58 databases mirrored. Are there similar limitations with log shipping?
Does anyone have any experience of mirroring and is using it in prefence to log shipping?
Our current recovery strategy is the classic restore the SQL dump from tape onto a rebuilt server so either method will be a vast improvement. None of our databases are mission critical that they need upto the second replication. 15 minute replication would be fine leading me to think that log shipping may be better given the possible limitations of mirroring
For recovery, I was considering amending the DNS records of the Database servers. Does anyone see any issues with this approach? I understand there is a automatic failure function if using mirror but this may require the application to be coded correctly?
Thanks in advance for any feedback
Robert
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Oct 3, 2006
Hello All Database Mirroring Experts,
I'm interested in how Combining Log Shipping and Database Mirroring works when failover occurs.
From SQL BOL, it says:
"Topic: Database Mirroring and Log Shipping
...
To run in high-safety mode with automatic failover the mirroring
session is configured with an additional server instance known as the witness.
If the principal database is lost for any reason after the database is
synchronized and if the mirror server and witness can still communicate
with each other, automatic failover occurs. An automatic failover
causes mirror server to assume the principal role and bring its
database online as the principal database. For more information, see Automatic Failover
[ http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms189590.aspx ] . If the log
shipping backup location is accessible to the new principal/primary
server, its backup jobs begin to ship log backups to that location. The
database mirroring synchronous mode guarantees that the log chain is
unaffected by a mirroring failover and that only valid log is restored.
The secondary servers continue to copy log backups without knowing that
a different server instance has become the primary server.
..."
Source: http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms187016(d=printer).aspx
Could anyone tell me that how the database mirroring synchronous mode guarantees that the log chain is
unaffected by a mirroring failover and that only valid log is restored?
Let me elaborate the situation (if anything I said is incorrect, please correct me )
Here is the time line of the failover happens:
------- tn-1 ---------- tn ---------- tf -------- tn+1 ---------------> t
----------------> t: the time line.
tn: the moment that the log shipping backup job and copy job is done for the transaction log obtained between the time interval tn-1 and tn.
tf: the moment that mirroring failover occurs in the database mirroring session.
the time interval between each tn and tn-1 are constant, say h seconds, for all n are positive integers.
Here is the question that I want to ask:
In database mirroring synchronous mode, it guarantees that all the committed transaction from the moment tn to tf is copied to the mirror database. All the transaction log backup for log shipping are done on the original principal before the moment tf. After the mirroring failover occurs at the moment tf, how the log shipping mechanism guarantees that the transaction log between the interval tn and tn+1 that can be unaffected by a mirroring failover?
That's the point that I interested in.
Thanks a lot,
Terence
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Sep 20, 2006
Hi everyboby,
Can anybody tell me the differences, advantages and disadvantages between these three solutions? When do I may use one or another?
Could you recommend me any documentation?
Thanks a lot,
Radamante71.
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Oct 24, 2007
Dear,
Are possible build a solution with SQL Server 2005 Cluster and Database Mirroring? I have the following scenario:
1) Site A
SQL Server 2005 with 2 nodes and active/passive
2) Site B
SQL Server 2005 for Disater Recovery with Log Shipping.
Are possivel change Log Shipping by the Database Mirroring? If is possible, are better:
a) Synchronous(with or without witness)
b) Asynchronous
Thanks a lot! Sandro.
sgpcosta@hotmail.com
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Aug 8, 2006
Up to now we have gotten by without having any local DR copies of servers (if a sql server goes down we are usually able to get it back in less than 3 hours). But I want more now. I want to trim the "down" window to no more than 5 or 10 minutes. (Immedate failover would be nice but is not an essential requirement. The essential requirement is to loose no data!)
I have a spec of knowledge in these areas:
SQL 2005 Clustering (requires approved hardware, quorum disk, etc. involved)
SQL 2005 Replicaiton
SQL 2005 Log Shipping.
SQL 2005 Database mirroring. ( needs three servers)
Which approach do you think is the most straightforward, sparing of hardware, yet reliable way to get us back up and running after a sql server failure.
TIA,
barkingdog
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May 14, 2007
Suppose I have a 3rd party SQL backup software to backup my databases, can I also setup a stand-by server for log shipping?
I'm not sure if this is possible? If not, is SQL mirroring a choice instead of log shipping?
Thanks a lot!
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Jun 14, 2007
Hello.
I am confuse and cant decide on how to setup high availability on our SQL 2005. Here's what on my mind and on resources list:
I plan to have mirroring on my SQL1 to SQL2 with the help of SQL3 as witness. So this would be automatic failover. My idea on mirroring is when SQL1 goes down, SQL3 would tell SQL2 to run and be the primary. It will automatically failover to SQL2. Right? My questions are:
1) How can I revert back to SQL1 once it is ready?
2) I read in one of the post that it is impossible to write in a mirrored DB, is this true? I mean, what's the use of failing over to the next node when it's not possible to write and update data/records?
3) If number 2 is false (i hope so), how would the data be synchronize from SQL2 back to SQL1. Those transaction that were made while SQL1 is down.
4) How about the connection string from the web applications? Would it be automatically point to SQL2? We have load balancing setup in place, would this help web application connection to automatically point to SQL2?
Another setup:
We have SAN in place (not yet used, but is planning to use for this SQL thing), EMC to be specific. My question would be:
1) For SAN setup, the data storage would be centralize. So would that mean that SQL1 and SQL2 services will use the same data and log file from the SAN storage?
2) How would you call this setup then? Can this be clustering type of high availability? Will clustering work under load balancing setup? I believe mirroring is not possible here? Right?
3) How can I setup my 3 SQL servers with the same theory in mind: when SQL1 goes down, SQL2 will take over. Data will be synchronize when SQL1 is up and running again. With automatic failover and reverting back to primary.
I read so much topics about this, but the more I research, the more I get confuse.
Any suggestions, comments, advice is greatly appreciated!
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May 13, 2007
Hi
I could not able to find Forums in regards to 'Log Shipping' thats why posting this question in here. Appriciate if someone can provide me answers depends on their experience.
Can we switch database recovery model when log shipping is turned on ?
We want to switch from Full Recovery to Bulk Logged Recovery to make sure Bulk Insert operations during the after hours load process will have some performance gain.
Is there any possibility of loosing data ?
Thanks
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May 3, 2008
Server A = primary SQL DBs (mirroring origination)
Server B = failover SQL DBs (mirroring destination)
For database mirroring a witness is required.
Can the witness live in another instance of SQL on server B?
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Jun 8, 2006
Hi,
I 'm sure I am missing something obvious, hopefully someone could point it out. After a failover log shipping, I want to fail back to my inital Primary server database; however, my database is marked as loading. How can I mark it as normal?
I did the failover as follow:
I did a failover log shipping from the 2 server Sv1 (Primary) and Sv2 (Secondary) by doing the following
1) Stop the primary database by using sp_change_primary_role (Sv1)
2) Change the 2nd server to primary server by running sp_change_secondary_role (Sv2)
3) Change the monitor role by running sp-change_monitor_role (Sv2)
4) Resolve the log ins - (Sv2)
5) Now I want to fail back - I copy the TRN files to Sv1 - use SQL Ent to restore the database at point in time. The task is done; however, the database is still mark as loading. I could not use sp_dboption.
I appreciate any suggestion.
Thanks in advance
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Nov 7, 2000
Hey all,
I need your help again..We are having many domains. Actually
we have created SQLgroups in sql and granted permissions in our domain.
But guys from other domains are just entering into their query analyser
and accessing the sql server..They are not at all falling under our SQLgroups.
We have given trusted connections between domains..
My question here is
Is there anyway that there should be an option to select the domain
before they log in thru query analyser? Like Nobody should enter
from their domain ...only through our domain they should enter..?
Please help me out..
Thank you
Andrew.s
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I have situation like this:
Company with one head office and one remote office. In the two offices I have two domains with two PDCs. The two networks are connected with eachother through leased line and the routers are configured properly. The SQL Server is on the PDC in head office and "local" clients connect fine. I cannot connect from the remote office. I think that I have folowing solutions:
1. make trust relationships between two domains - it will be hard a little bit because second PDC is samba on linux
2. make all clients in remote office to be members of the head office domain - potential problems if the leased line drops
3. make all clients to log in with same account as SQL Server logs locally - stupid
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Thanks in advance!
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Hello,
First
I would like to replicate databases from an SQL 2000 Server to a SQL 2005 Server.
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Secondly
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Thanks for the help.
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