More Questions About Data Mining Plug-in Algorithms?
Jun 6, 2006
Hi, all here,
I am having a more considertaion about Data Mining plug-in algorithms. When we say we are going to embed a uesr plug-in algorithm, so what is the context for that ? I mean in which case then we thing we need to embed a user plug-in algortihm? I know when we say we are going to embed a user costomermized plug-in algorithm, it means we want something more costomized. But what kind of customized features are generally concerned? Is it independant for different market sectors?
I dont think we can just try to embed a plug-in algorithm then compete it with avaialble algorithms to see which one is with better prediction accuracy?
Would please someone here give me some guidances about that?
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May 22, 2006
Hi, all here,
I am having a question about plug-in algorithms in SQL Server 2005. Since we are able to implement our own algorithms in SQL Server 2005 analysis services architecture, so my question is: what benefits can to a great extent be achieved? Like say, we are going to implement a plug-in algorithm, so what considerations should be concerned?
Thanks a lot in advance for any guidance and help.
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Jun 28, 2007
Hi !!
I read that it is possible to create a custom algorithm and use it as a plug in to sql server 2005. What programming language are available for this purpose ? C++ only ? Can I use .net ?
Thank you!
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Aug 31, 2006
Hi,
actually i want to implement a c# component that can help third party data mining algorithm
and i want managed plug-in algorithm (without wrapper),.
is it possible to write whole application in c#
as Analysis servisce is in c++ , can we implement it in c#
thanks in advance
~Chinmay
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Nov 6, 2006
Hi,
I recently started using SQL 2000 Analysis Manager. I wanted to try data mining but was unable to get the Mining Model Wizard to load available techniques.
When I select a cube and "New Mining Model" I get the following error:
"Unable to get list of data mining algorithms."
"Object of provider is not capable of performing requested operation"
Please help.
Thank you very much,
Robert
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May 11, 2007
Hi, all experts here,
Thank you for your kind attention.
Could please any of you give me some advices for if there are tutorials and demos avaiable which cover all the SQL Server 2005 data mining built-in algorithms?
That will be great to hear from any of you shortly. Thanks a lot in advance.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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Sep 7, 2006
managed plug-in framework that's available for download here: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=DF0BA5AA-B4BD-4705-AA0A-B477BA72A9CB&displaylang=en#DMAPI.
This package includes the source code for a sample plug-in algorithm written in C#.
in this source code all .cs files are modified for clustering algorithm
if my plugin algorithm is of association or classification type then what modifications are requried in source code???
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Jun 9, 2007
Hello Everyone,
I am reading DataMining Tutorial and right now I am at the Mining Algorithms section. I cannot understand any of the algorithms. For example take the following text... what a bunch of mouthful bla bla bla it is ....
"The Microsoft Decision Trees algorithm supports both classification and regression and it works well for predictive modeling. Using the algorithm, you can predict both discrete and continuous attributes.
In building a model, the algorithm examines how each input attribute in the dataset affects the result of the predicted attribute, and then it uses the input attributes with the strongest relationship to create a series of splits, called nodes. As new nodes are added to the model, a tree structure begins to form. The top node of the tree describes the breakdown of the predicted attribute over the overall population. Each additional node is created based on the distribution of states of the predicted attribute as compared to the input attributes. If an input attribute is seen to cause the predicted attribute to favor one state over another, a new node is added to the model. The model continues to grow until none of the remaining attributes create a split that provides an improved prediction over the existing node. The model seeks to find a combination of attributes and their states that creates a disproportionate distribution of states in the predicted attribute, therefore allowing you to predict the outcome of the predicted attribute"
In the above text what is meant by discrete and continious attributes? what is regression? what is predicted attributes? what are input attributes? what is distribution of states?
Is there a source which explains these algorighms in a easier way ....
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May 26, 2006
Hi, all here,
I have a question about having data mining progammability. I mean is there any functions we can not realize through data mining graphical user inteface? Otherwise cant see any point to use data mining programmability which is a harder way compared to available graphical user interface for data mining. (it is just like because you can do things in a hard way dose not mean you have to?)
Thanks a lot in advance for any guidance and help.
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Apr 26, 2006
Hi, all here,
I am wondering where can I store my mining results in data mining engine? For example, I got mining results like accuracy chart, decision trees, and other formats of results based on different mining algorithms I used for my data mining, so where can I actually store the results for reporting service use later? Is it possible to do that in SQL Server 2005?
Thanks a lot for any help and guidance in advance.
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Sep 29, 2015
I followed the tutorial posted at [URL] ...
Everything was ok until the last step where I had to process the mining structure which resulted in a warning
"Informational (Data mining): Decision Trees found no splits for model, Tbl Decision Tree Example."
What does this error mean? How do I resolve it? Also, I only see the first level in the Mining Model Viewer, I don't see the levels 2 and 3.
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Sep 17, 2007
Hi!
I have some questions regarding text mining in Microsoft Data Mining Add-Ins for Office 2007.
What do I need to use data mining (especially text mining) through the Microsoft solution?
I guess I need the following:
1) Microsoft Office 2007 (or Microsoft Excel 2007) [does it work with Microsoft Office 2003?]
2) Microsoft SQL Server 2005 [is it possible to use the text mining tool in Excel without access to the SQL Server? For example to directly analyze text data from an Excel worksheet]
3) The Microsoft Data Mining Add-Ins for Office 2007 (which is free of charge?)
What can I do regarding text mining?
1) Is it possible to analyze text data in different languages? [For example French, Swedish, Portuguese, Spanish text; i.e. other languages then English.]
2) Can I count how many cells that contain a specific phrase or a specific word?
3) Can I count how many cells that contain a specific phrase or a specific word given that it fulfill a specific criterion (e.g. given that it has a specific word in another column)?
4) Has the add-in a good options to aggregate words which are synonyms, or miss spelled, in relation to a specific key word?
4) What are the advantages and disadvantages to use the Microsoft solution in comparison to Clementine from SPSS or SPSS Text Analysis for Surveys?
BR,
Dr. Magnus
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Feb 23, 2007
Hi, all experts here,
I would like to know if there is any way to migrate third-party data mining packages with SQL Server 2005 data mining algorithms together then we can have a comparison among all of them to get the best results for training models.
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Thanks a lot.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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May 31, 2006
Hoping someone will have a solution for this error
Errors in the metadata manager. The data type of the '~CaseDetail ~MG-Fact Voic~6' measure must be the same as its source data type. This is because the aggregate function is not set to count or distinct count.
Is the problem due to the data type of the column used in the mining structure is Long, and the underlying field in the cube has a type of BigInt,or am I barking up the wrong tree?
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Apr 30, 2015
I'm a beginner with SQL 2012 SSDT & SSMS. I get this error message when I try to deploy my project:Â
"Error 6
Error (Data mining): KEY SEQUENCE columns are not supported at the case level. The 'Customer Key' column of the 'TK448 Ch09 Cube Clustering' mining structure contains content that is not valid.
0 0
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I am finding it hard to locate the content that is not valid. I've been trying to find a answer for this problem but can't seem to find anything. How can I locate the content that is not valid and change or delete it so that I can deploy this solution?
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Jun 4, 2015
Having successfully created :
- a data mining structure with about 80 columns.
- a data mining model using Microsoft_Decision_Trees with 2 prediction columns.Â
I thought I would then explore the possibility of have more than 2 prediction columns, in this case 20.
I get an error message and I can't work out :
a) if this is because there's a limit to the maximum number of prediction columns and where that maximum is stated.
b) if something else has become corrupted
c) there's a know bug and if the error message is either meaningful or not.
Either way, I'm unable to complete the data mining wizardÂ
The error message is :Errors in the metadata manager. Either the mining structure with the ID of '[my model Structure]' does not exist in the database with the ID of 'DMAddinsDB', or the user does not have permissions to access the object.
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Feb 5, 2007
I just want to know what are the data algorithms available for sql server 2005 and can i use data mining as a web service
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Oct 25, 2007
Hi all,
I am using Microsoft_Time_Series and have set HISTORIC_MODEL_GAP to various values (from 1 to 21). I always get this error:
Error (Data mining): The 'HISTORIC_MODEL_GAP' data mining parameter is not valid for the 'My Time Series' model.
In Algorithm Parameters window, this parameters is not there by default, so I have to add it.
Any tip will be greatly appreciated.
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Jun 15, 2015
Implementing data mining Add-in in an academic setting? We need to handle over 150 new students a semester and have their connection to Analysis Services survive for their four years at the college. We are introducing data mining to every freshman business student as a unit within their Intro to Excel class (close to a month of work to give them a sense of what is possible). Other courses later in their curriculum will expand on that introduction.Â
Once implemented, we would have as many as 900 connections to manage (four years from now). It is possible that multiple sections will be running at the same time, so 40 students may be accessing the data mining tools concurrently. Â
Is there a way to "bulk establish" the access credentials and establish those databases?
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Jul 19, 2007
Hi, all,
Thanks for your kind attention.
Just wonder is there any good idea for us to select attributes for training models? Both for non-supervised algorithms like Association Rules and Clustering etc. and supervised algorithms like decision tree etc.
It will be much interesting to hear from you for any best practices and popular methods of dealing with this issue.
I am looking forward to hearing from you and thanks for your advices.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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Aug 4, 2015
With SASS Database i have created Data mining Structure Using Time series algorithm, while processing the SSAS db, Data mining  taking long time to process, so how we can  reduce processing time ???
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Sep 26, 2006
Hi,
I have just run a simple data set through a model to predict a simple true or false value (i.e. binary output)
The Lift Chart/Mining Legend in Analysis Services shows three results €“ Score, Population Correct (%), and Predict Probability (%)
Population Correct I beleive is the percentage of predictions it got right out of the total number of predictions it tried to make. Is this correct?
However, I can€™t work out how the other two are derived in particular the 'SCORE'. To give a live example the scores were as follows:
Model Score Pop Correct Pred Probability
Decision Trees 0.83 76.59% 54.28%
Neural Network 0.75 67.63% 50.05%
Ideal Model 100.00%
Can anyone help with this and give a detailed explanation?
Many thanks,
S Rajput
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Apr 11, 2007
Hi,
I am trying to model data in analysis services with the Advance Create Mining Model function in the excel addin. I am having trouble creating an association model that works like the Associate button above the Advanced button.
The format of my data is like this
OrderID Product
100 Bike
100 Helmet
100 Shoes
200 Helmet
200 basketball
200 Bat
300 Shoes
300 Socks
The associate button works perfectly since it asks me which column is the transaction id (orderid) and which column I am trying to predict (product). The advanced create mining model asks me to determine what the columns are...
OrderID=key Product=Input+Predict?
When I run the advance create mining model associate, I get a browser that gives me no rules and the support for only one item itemset (each product but no combination of products).
Does anyone know what I have to do to get it to work like the associate button?
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Jul 18, 2006
I perform data mining on all products and a specific product category.
Do I need to create 2 data source views, one for all products and the other one for the specific product category?
Afterward, I run the Data Mining Wizard 2 times to create 2 mining structures.
I also need to add the same mining model (e.g. Bayes, Cluster) to each of these mining structures.
Is there any simple way to do it?
Thanks.
Joe.
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Nov 24, 2006
Hi, all here,
Thank you very much for your kind attention.
I am wondering if it is possible to use SSIS to sample data set to training set and test set directly to my data mining models without saving them somewhere as occupying too much space? Really need guidance for that.
Thank you very much in advance for any help.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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May 3, 2015
I am trying to delete tables from data where the ModifiedDates older than 9 years in AdventureWorks2012 database . I get console notified that foreign keys are dropped but the delete statement is throwing errors. I am sure that somewhere the key constraints are not getting altered, but i'm not able to figure it out as i'm a relative beginner to T-SQL. The error and code:
The DELETE statement conflicted with the REFERENCE constraint "FK_SalesOrderHeaderSalesReason_SalesReason_SalesReasonID". The conflict
occurred in database "AdventureWorks2012", table "Sales.SalesOrderHeader
[System.Reflection.Assembly]::LoadWithPartialName("Microsoft.SqlServer.SMO") | Out-Null
$option_drop = new-object Microsoft.SqlServer.Management.Smo.ScriptingOptions;
$option_drop.ScriptDrops = $true;
[Code] ....
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Jun 19, 2007
Hi, all experts here,
I am wondering is there any way to select only a portion of a data set to train the mining model? In this case, I mean we dont need to split the dataset in advance, what I want to do is being able to select any random portion of a selected dataset to train a mining model. Any advices?
I am looking forward to hearing from you and thanks a lot in advance for your advices and help.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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May 25, 2006
hi
I am new at MSSQL 2000 DBA thing. and trying to learn more about analysis service/data warehouse/data mining. so is any expert out there can Recommend some good books or web link article to read? Thanks
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Jun 15, 2007
Could I ask how to spit the data into training and validation sets when doing data mining?
Thanks
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Aug 24, 2007
Here is how you get the check digit for EAN-8, EAN-13 and EAN-14.CREATE FUNCTION dbo.fnGetEAN
(
@EAN VARCHAR(13)
)
RETURNS VARCHAR(14)
AS
BEGIN
DECLARE@Index TINYINT,
@Multiplier TINYINT,
@Sum TINYINT
SELECT@Index = LEN(@EAN),
@Multiplier = 3,
@Sum = 0
WHILE @Index > 0
SELECT@Sum = @Sum + @Multiplier * CAST(SUBSTRING(@EAN, @Index, 1) AS TINYINT),
@Multiplier = 4 - @Multiplier,
@Index = @Index - 1
RETURNCASE @Sum % 10
WHEN 0 THEN @EAN + '0'
ELSE @EAN + CAST(10 - @Sum % 10 AS CHAR(1))
END
END
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Dec 20, 2006
I'm stucked in a problem and I thought if you would be so kind as to helping me to resolve it.
I'm implementing a clustering algorithm plugin for text mining. I've already read the tutorials and sample codes provided by the MSDN Library.
Well... My problem is: I can't go through the data when the Predict method is called. I've read that this method implements the "core" of the custom algorithms. Here is a small snippet of my code for you to understand my doubt:
STDMETHODIMP ALGORITHM::Predict(/* [in] */ IDMContextServices* in_pContext,/* [in] */ DM_PREDICTION_FLAGS in_Flags,/* [in] */ IDMAttributeGroup* in_pPredAttGroup,/* [in] */ DM_CaseID in_CaseID, /* [in] */ ULONG in_ulCaseValues,/* [in] */ DM_ATTRIBUTE_VALUE* in_rgValues,/* [in] */ ULONG in_ulMaxPredictions,/* [in] */ ULONG in_ulMaxStates, /* [out] */ DM_ATTRIBUTE_STAT** io_prgPredictions,/* [out] */ ULONG* out_pulPredictions) {
for(UINT i=0;i<in_ulCaseValues;i++) {
DM_ATTRIBUTE_VALUE& dmattributevalue = in_rgValues;
ULONG iAttribute = dmattributevalue.Attribute;
if (iAttribute == DM_UNSPECIFIED)
continue;
double dblValue = ::DblContinuous(dmattributevalue.Value);
char buffer[129];
sprintf(buffer,"%f ",dblValue);
RENAN_Log::log(buffer);
}
return S_OK;
}
As you can see, I'm going through in_rgValues to get its values, but i'm only obtaining the first register of the table on the database. I need to roll over a kind of resultset so I could access all the registers I need. Is there any way to do so ?
I expected Predict() received a matrix containing all my data, but the only thing I noticed that could represent the data is that in_rgValues vector. So I can go through this vector, but it holds only the first register of the table in the database (that's what's being saved on my log). I need all of the registers in order to pre-process the data and implement my clustering algorithm.
Well... That's it... I would be very pleased if you could help me.
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Jun 15, 2015
I have very little experience with programming and data mining, but I am working on a project where I need to take data from one spreadsheet and place it in another. Since it is hard to describe what I would like to do, I will provide an example:
SPREADSHEET 1
Column 1, Column 2
100, ?
101, ?
102, ?
103, ?
SPREADSHEET 2
Column 1, Column 2
102, 202
100, 200
103, 203
101, 201
In this example, the data in Column 1 is always tied to the data in Column 2 (i.e., 100 in Column 1 means 200 in Column 2, etc.) However, the data for Column 2 is only available in SPREADSHEET 2; moreover, the data is not in the same order in both spreadsheets.
My question is how can I create some sort of program where I can transfer the data from SPREADSHEET 2 into SPREADSHEET 1?
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Aug 24, 2007
Here is how you get the check digit for ISBN.CREATE FUNCTION dbo.fnGetISBN
(
@ISBN VARCHAR(11)
)
RETURNS VARCHAR(13)
AS
BEGIN
DECLARE@Index TINYINT,
@Weight TINYINT,
@Sum SMALLINT
SELECT@Index = LEN(@ISBN),
@Weight = 2,
@Sum = 0
WHILE @Index > 0
BEGIN
IF SUBSTRING(@ISBN, @Index, 1) <> '-'
SELECT@Sum = @Sum + @Weight * CAST(SUBSTRING(@ISBN, @Index, 1) AS TINYINT),
@Weight = @Weight + 1
SET @Index = @Index - 1
END
RETURNCASE @Sum % 11
WHEN 1 THEN @ISBN + '-X'
ELSE @ISBN + '-' + CONVERT(CHAR(1), 11 - (@Sum % 11))
END
END
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