Moving Master, Model, Msdb Database

Mar 18, 2008



How to move master , model and msdb database to some other location. Can we overwrite the master, model and msdb files

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Hi All,

I am working on a third party client product which shrinks all the databases in MS SqlServer based on the rule or parameter that is set. This product will be used in production server which has MS SqlServer 7.0.

My question is: Is it advisable to shrink Master,Model and Msdb databases in an production environment? Please give the reasons.

Thanks
Sri

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Hi ,

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I used the code below to move the Model database and Model log file to new SAN drive locations.
After running the commands I stopped the SQL server and moved the physical files to the correct location.
Now I am unable to start SQL server, I get error 17204 Could not open file:Access is denied

I think the problem maybe that for FILENAME new_path I put "J:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData"
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I have included the log file below.



ALTER DATABASE database_name MODIFY FILE ( NAME = logical_name , FILENAME = 'new_path/os_file_name' )


2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server Microsoft SQL Server 2005 - 9.00.3042.00 (X64)
Feb 10 2007 00:59:02
Copyright (c) 1988-2005 Microsoft Corporation
Standard Edition (64-bit) on Windows NT 5.2 (Build 3790: Service Pack 2)
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server (c) 2005 Microsoft Corporation.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server All rights reserved.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server Server process ID is 3264.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server Authentication mode is MIXED.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server Logging SQL Server messages in file 'D:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLLOGERRORLOG'.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server This instance of SQL Server last reported using a process ID of 2648 at 9/11/2007 1:10:02 PM (local) 9/11/2007 8:10:02 PM (UTC). This is an informational message only; no user action is required.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server Registry startup parameters:
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server -d D:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLDATAmaster.mdf
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server -e D:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLLOGERRORLOG
2007-09-11 13:19:31.82 Server -l D:Program FilesMicrosoft SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLDATAmastlog.ldf
2007-09-11 13:19:31.84 Server SQL Server is starting at normal priority base (=7). This is an informational message only. No user action is required.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.84 Server Detected 4 CPUs. This is an informational message; no user action is required.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.96 Server Using dynamic lock allocation. Initial allocation of 2500 Lock blocks and 5000 Lock Owner blocks per node. This is an informational message only. No user action is required.
2007-09-11 13:19:31.98 Server Attempting to initialize Microsoft Distributed Transaction Coordinator (MS DTC). This is an informational message only. No user action is required.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.00 Server Attempting to recover in-doubt distributed transactions involving Microsoft Distributed Transaction Coordinator (MS DTC). This is an informational message only. No user action is required.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.00 Server Database mirroring has been enabled on this instance of SQL Server.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.00 spid5s Starting up database 'master'.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.09 spid5s SQL Trace ID 1 was started by login "sa".
2007-09-11 13:19:32.10 spid5s Starting up database 'mssqlsystemresource'.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.10 spid5s The resource database build version is 9.00.3042. This is an informational message only. No user action is required.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid5s Server name is 'SS02'. This is an informational message only. No user action is required.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Starting up database 'model'.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Error: 17207, Severity: 16, State: 1.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s FCB:pen: Operating system error 5(Access is denied.) occurred while creating or opening file 'J:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData'. Diagnose and correct the operating system error, and retry the operation.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Error: 17204, Severity: 16, State: 1.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s FCB:pen failed: Could not open file J:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData for file number 1. OS error: 5(Access is denied.).
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Error: 5120, Severity: 16, State: 101.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Unable to open the physical file "J:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData". Operating system error 5: "5(Access is denied.)".
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Error: 17207, Severity: 16, State: 1.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s FCB:pen: Operating system error 5(Access is denied.) occurred while creating or opening file 'I:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData'. Diagnose and correct the operating system error, and retry the operation.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Error: 17204, Severity: 16, State: 1.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s FCB:pen failed: Could not open file I:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData for file number 2. OS error: 5(Access is denied.).
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Error: 5120, Severity: 16, State: 101.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Unable to open the physical file "I:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData". Operating system error 5: "5(Access is denied.)".
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s File activation failure. The physical file name "I:SQL ServerMSSQL.1MSSQLData" may be incorrect.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Error: 945, Severity: 14, State: 2.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Database 'model' cannot be opened due to inaccessible files or insufficient memory or disk space. See the SQL Server errorlog for details.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s Could not create tempdb. You may not have enough disk space available. Free additional disk space by deleting other files on the tempdb drive and then restart SQL Server. Check for additional errors in the event log that may indicate why the tempdb files could not be initialized.
2007-09-11 13:19:32.26 spid9s SQL Trace was stopped due to server shutdown. Trace ID = '1'. This is an informational message only; no user action is required.

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