Moving Ntext To Nvarchar(max)
May 24, 2006
I just move our SQL server to version 2005. In new version ntext field is deprecated and documentation says that ntext(max) should be used.
If I have table Table1 and ntext column Column1. When I execute following SQL statements:
alter table Table1 alter column
Column1 nvarchar(max)
go
1.) Are out of row data automatically move to in row?
2.) Or should I also execute something like this ?
update Table1 set Column1 = Column1+'' where Column1 is not null
3.) Is there way to check if data is stored out or in row?
Best regards
edvin
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Nov 28, 2007
I am running this query to an sql server 2000 database from my aspcode:"select * from MyTable whereMySqlServerRemoveStressFunction(MyNtextColumn) = '" &MyAdoRemoveStressFunction(MyString) & "'"The problem is that the replace function doesn't work with the ntextdatatype (so as to replace the stresses with an empty string). I hadto implement the MySqlServerRemoveStressFunction, i.e. a function thattakes a column name as a parameter and returns the text contained inthis column having replaced some letters of the text (the letters withstress). Unfortunately, I could not do that because user-definedfunctions cannot return a value of ntext.So I have the following idea:"select * from MyTable whereCheckIfTheyAreEqualIngoringTheStesses(MyNtextColum n, '" & MyString &"')"How can I implement the CheckIfTheyAreEqualIngoringTheStessesfunction? (I don't know how to combine these functions to do what Iwant: TEXTPTR, UPDATETEXT, WRITETEXT, READTEXT)
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Sep 27, 2005
I am new to SQL Server and would like to hear opinions on pros and cons of using nText vs. nVarChar data type for following uses:
URLs (up to 260 bytes)
Addresses (50-300 bytes)
Descriptions and comments (50-2,000 bytes)
Memos (up to 8000 bytes)
TIA.
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Feb 6, 2007
Hello,
I need to save some news text in an SQL table. The text can be long.
1. Should I use nvarchar(MAX) or nText?
2. And what is the difference between nText and Text?
I am using SQL 2005.
Thanks,
Miguel
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Feb 15, 2008
Dear All,
i'm trying to convert the datatype from ntext to nvarchar.i'm getting error. is it not possible?
Vinod
Even you learn 1%, Learn it with 100% confidence.
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Feb 19, 2008
Hi,
my question concerns both desktop and device apps.
I'm using sql compact to store some data. I often have to store strings (descriptions, url, etc.) but I don't know when to use nvarchar or ntext.
Nvarchar needs to have a size limit, but I often set it to 8092 when I don't know the actual limit (urls can be very long !).
I fear Ntext because I suppose there is performances impact.
Is there any "rules" to help to choose which data type I'd use ?
Thanks,
Steve
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Jan 22, 2005
I need to sort by an ntext field, but it won't let me do it.
However, if I cast the field as nvarchar(100), I can use ORDER BY on that.
Is there any reason that this is a bad idea? In my testing, ordering by a converted ntext field was actually *faster* than ordering by an nvarchar (same data in the fields).
Josh
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Jan 28, 2004
Hi all
I have a table that contains an ntext column for storing values up to a couple of Mb in size.
However, I estimate that 95% of the values stored in this ntext field will fit into an nvarchar(4000) field.
Is it worth me having both fields in the table?
i.e. For rows where the values < 4000 characters I would store the value in the nvarchar column. Otherwise I would use the ntext column.
Can anyone confirm whether this technique would increase performance given that ntext values are sort of stored separately to the rest of the table data?
A colleague of mine is an Oracle DBA and he mentioned this technique is fairly caommonly adopted in the Oracle world.
Thanks
Matt
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Apr 10, 2008
When I tried to insert armenian by doing the following
insert into tablex (field1) values (N'testdata')
it does not display in query analyzer or in the database as armenian.
When I copy this to word it does not convert it.
What else am I supposed to do to get that information to redisplay the correct way and I would appreciate any tutorials or samples you can show or direct me to.
Howard
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Oct 19, 2006
I have a live SQL 2005 database that has ntext fields, when the ntext fields go over 4000 chars the record can no longer be edited. It throws a string or binary data would be truncated error. I tried turning text in row OFF, but it did not work. Can anyone forsee any problems with changing the ntext fields to nvarchar(max) in the live database? Also, I came across sp_tableoption N'MyTable', 'large value types out of row', 'ON', does this work for ntext also? sp_tableoption N'MyTable', 'text in row', 'OFF' did not do anything.Any help would be appreciated.
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Apr 4, 2007
Like in the subject: What are the cons and pros of using nvarchar(max) versus ntext?
Does it have something to do with having to enable full text search perhaps in the latter case?
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Jul 23, 2005
Hi all,I need to store data into about 104 columns. This is problematic with MSSQL, since it doesn't support rows over 8kb in total size.Most of the columns are of type NVARCHAR(255), which means we can't havemore than 8092/(255*2) = 15 columns of this type.With a row length of more than 8kb, SQL gives a warning that any rows overthat amount will be truncated.So far I'm seeing two possible solutions to this problem:1. Split data into multiple tables with the same ID column accross alltables, and then join them on SELECT statements.2. Use NTEXT instead of NVARCHAR. NTEXT's length is 16 bytes because itcontains a pointer to the actual value stored somewhere else. However, NTEXTdoesn't support regular indexing, only through a Full-Text Index catalog. Inthis case I'll need to user "WHERE CONTAINS(columnName, 'sometext')" toperform searches, which is bearable.I'm inclined toward #2. However I haven't used Full-Text indices before anddon't know their limitations. Will I run into problems with NTEXT? Is therea better solution?Thanks.-Oleg.
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Oct 2, 2007
I hope this is the right forum for this question, my apologies in advance if it isn't....
We have a web based CGI product (written in C++ VS 6) that uses ODBC and takes text from a submitted web page and stores it in a SQL Server table in a field of type "ntext". The user in question is copying and pasting this text from an MS Word 2003 document. After the initial save our app errors out trying to access the table it just wrote to, and when we look in the table we see that up to **200 carriage returns** have been mysteriously inserted into the ntext field!! (Our product has been out in the field with no such problem for several years, so we are thinking it's related to something specific the customer is doing - perhaps with using MS Word for the source text.) We have tried but cannot duplicate the problem, but the customer sees it with each attempt to modify the table in question. The only thing that I see out of the ordinary is that the field in question is of type "ntext" - which supports unicode, instead of nvarchar. Does any of this ring a bell for anybody? I'm thinking of changing the field type to nvarchar to see if that solves the problem.
Thanks, Steve Bradbery
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Dec 14, 2004
I want to retrieve data from SQL containing non English character but fail, can anyone shed me some light?
What I use currently:
Dim strSQL As String
strSQL = "SELECT ArticleID, "
strSQL &= "ISNULL(Body, '') AS Body, "
strSQL &= "ISNULL(Subject, '') AS Subject "
strSQL &= "FROM Articles "
strSQL &= "WHERE (Subject LIKE N'%' + @Keyword + '%' OR [Body] LIKE N'%' + @Keyword + '%') "
Dim con As New SqlConnection(ConfigurationSettings.AppSettings("ConnectionString"))
Dim cmd As New SqlDataAdapter(strSQL, con)
cmd.SelectCommand.Parameters.Add("@Keyword", SqlDbType.NVarChar).Value = keyword
...
I'm not so sure where should I place the letter "N", I use :
SELECT ArticleID,
ISNULL(Body, '') AS Body,
ISNULL(Subject, '') AS Subject,
FROM Articles
WHERE (Subject LIKE N'%SomeNonEnglishString%' OR [Body] LIKE N'%SomeNonEnglishString%')
in Query Analzyer, it works! But it failed in my program... oh my god...
Thanks a lot!
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Jan 28, 2005
Hi,
We are in process of converting all of the data type of the fields from CHAR/VARCHAR/TEXT into NCHAR/NVARCHAR/NTEXT (DBCS). Having more than 900 store procedure its look like real pain to make modification in all of the SPs.
After failed to find any help from GOOGLE, I am posting this request. I am basically looking for any automated tool which are convert data type in SP based on the field of the table used in the SP. Or at least which can provide me some sort of list which can helpful for doing manual reactoring.
PLEASE HELP ME!!!
Thanks,
Firoz Ansari
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Mar 27, 2004
/* INFO USED HERE WAS TAKEN FROM http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;262499 */
DECLARE @X VARCHAR(10)
DECLARE @ParmDefinition NVARCHAR(500)
DECLARE @Num_Members SMALLINT
SELECT @X = 'x.dbo.v_NumberofMembers'
DECLARE @SQLString AS VARCHAR(500)
SET @SQLString = 'SELECT @Num_MembersOUT=Num_Members FROM @DB'
SET @ParmDefinition = '@Num_MembersOUT SMALLINT OUTPUT'
EXECUTE sp_executesql <-LINE 11
@SQLString,
@ParmDefinition,
@DB = @X,
@Num_MembersOUT = @Num_Members OUTPUT
Just Need Help On This Error
Server: Msg 214, Level 16, State 2, Procedure sp_executesql, Line 11
Procedure expects parameter '@statement' of type 'ntext/nchar/nvarchar'.
I dont know why im getting a errrror b/c I followed http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;262499 exactly
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Jan 10, 2008
HI, I am running the below method which returns this error: The parameterized query '(@contactdate nvarchar(4000),@dnbnumber nvarchar(4000),@prospect' expects the parameter '@futureopportunity', which was not supplied" Please help.Private Shared Sub InsertData(ByVal sourceTable As System.Data.DataTable, ByVal destConnection As SqlConnection)
' old method: Lots of INSERT statements Dim rowscopied As Integer = 0
' first, create the insert command that we will call over and over:
destConnection.Open()Using ins As New SqlCommand("INSERT INTO [tblAppointmentDisposition] ([contactdate], [dnbnumber], [prospectname], [businessofficer], [phonemeeting], [followupcalldate2], [phonemeetingappt], [followupcalldate3], [appointmentdate], [appointmentlocation], [appointmentkept], [applicationgenerated], [applicationgenerated2], [applicationgenerated3], [comments], [newaccount], [futureopportunity]) VALUES (@contactdate, @dnbnumber, @prospectname, @businessofficer, @phonemeeting, @followupcalldate2, @phonemeetingappt, @followupcalldate3, @appointmentdate, @appointmentlocation, @appointmentkept, @applicationgenerated, @applicationgenerated2, @applicationgenerated3, @comments, @newaccount, @futureopportunity)", destConnection)
ins.CommandType = CommandType.Textins.Parameters.Add("@contactdate", SqlDbType.NVarChar)
ins.Parameters.Add("@dnbnumber", SqlDbType.NVarChar)ins.Parameters.Add("@prospectname", SqlDbType.Text)
ins.Parameters.Add("@businessofficer", SqlDbType.NChar)ins.Parameters.Add("@phonemeeting", SqlDbType.NVarChar)
ins.Parameters.Add("@followupcalldate2", SqlDbType.NVarChar)ins.Parameters.Add("@phonemeetingappt", SqlDbType.NVarChar)
ins.Parameters.Add("@followupcalldate3", SqlDbType.NVarChar)ins.Parameters.Add("@appointmentdate", SqlDbType.NVarChar)
ins.Parameters.Add("@appointmentlocation", SqlDbType.NVarChar)ins.Parameters.Add("@appointmentkept", SqlDbType.NVarChar)
ins.Parameters.Add("@applicationgenerated", SqlDbType.NVarChar)ins.Parameters.Add("@applicationgenerated2", SqlDbType.NVarChar)
ins.Parameters.Add("@applicationgenerated3", SqlDbType.NVarChar)ins.Parameters.Add("@comments", SqlDbType.Text)
ins.Parameters.Add("@newaccount", SqlDbType.NVarChar)ins.Parameters.Add("@futureopportunity", SqlDbType.NVarChar)
' and now, do the work: For Each r As DataRow In sourceTable.RowsFor i As Integer = 0 To 15
ins.Parameters(i).Value = r(i)
Next
ins.ExecuteNonQuery()
'If System.Threading.Interlocked.Increment(rowscopied) Mod 10000 = 0 Then
'Console.WriteLine("-- copied {0} rows.", rowscopied)
'End If
Next
End Using
destConnection.Close()
End Sub
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Sep 4, 2007
I had this question for quite a long time.
It seems the latter one don't take any extra storage space than the previous one.
As long as the real string length is less than 10.
Is that mean the latter one not cost anything?
I once heard the different is when they are in memory. But not sure of it.
Can anyone explain it and provide some official reference on it?
Thank.
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Dec 22, 2003
I wonder if I should do something to the data I store on ntext fields
so far it looks like it has no problem holding special chracters (as it should B for unicode)
anyway - is there some combinations I should avoid ?
Should I use something like on old ASP Server.URLEncode() or Server.HTMLEncode() ?
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Mar 6, 2004
hi all,
I am new to sql server.
I need some help regarding ntext value.I am using an insert stored proc to insert the value into ntext field, till now i have been using a varchar variable to pass the value. but i think this doesn't work when the size exceeds the limit of varchar and also what if i want to perform group insert?
and the major issue i am concerned about is, i don't want to update this field quite often.I need to check whether the existing ntext value and the new value which i want to insert are different.I want to do it in a better way than processing both values entirely.I want to make sure that the update statement is executed only when both values differ.
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Mar 18, 2004
HI all,
I Need some help over ntext datatype.one of my table columns is of ntext datatype. how to insert or update this thru storedprocs.
any special notes regarding ntext column.
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Jul 20, 2005
If I insert 8000 byte of data, in the one of the column. now I want toread the data, is there any to see all the data, through selectstatement?
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Jun 20, 2006
Hi, I'm using a column (ntext) to store some long strings. An example of the string that I need to store is the following:
436;Implementing A Gang - Awareness Program/And A Middle School
Gang Prevention Curriculum. Doctoral Th;Samuels;Donald J;Miami
IV;Administrators; At Risk; Child And Youth Studies; Community;
Community Members; Drop Out Prevention; Educational Leadership;
Law/Criminal Justice; Peer Counseling; Principals; Secondary Education
I wrote a store procedure that does it, but it seems that the column
space is not enough for the above string. The string in fact, is
truncated and only the following portion is stored in my table:
436;Implementing A Gang - Awareness Program/And A Middle School Gang
Prevention Curriculum. Doctoral Th;Samuels;Donald J;Miami
IV;Administrators; At Risk; Child And Youth Studies; Community;
Community Members; Drop Out Prevention; Educational Leadership
What can I do?
Christian
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Jul 25, 2007
Hi, I have the following problem. I cannot alter column which is ntext under sql server 2000. I get the following error:25-Jul-2007 09:27:11 ERROR [sol.cm.dbsetup.StatementReader] Error occured while executing the statement: Cannot alter column 'asz' because it is 'ntext'. SQLState = S0001 ErrorCode = 492825-Jul-2007 09:27:11 ERROR [sol.cm.dbsetup.StatementReader] SQL statement was: ALTER TABLE a ALTER COLUMN asz NTEXT NOT NULL I cannot use varchar because it is to short. Please tell me if there is a magic way to do this. I've already read in documentation that I cannot alter column which is ntext. Is there really no way to do this. Please help :)
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Jun 2, 2008
hi
i wants to order by ntext data type.
like
1.1.1.3.1.11.1.1.3.1.11.1.1.3.1.21.1.1.3.1.21.1.1.3.1.31.1.1.3.1.31.1.1.3.1.41.1.1.3.1.41.1.1.3.1.4.11.1.1.3.1.4.11.1.1.3.1.4.101.1.1.3.1.4.101.1.1.3.1.4.111.1.1.3.1.4.111.1.1.3.1.4.121.1.1.3.1.4.121.1.1.3.1.4.131.1.1.3.1.4.131.1.1.3.1.4.141.1.1.3.1.4.141.1.1.3.1.4.151.1.1.3.1.4.151.1.1.3.1.4.161.1.1.3.1.4.161.1.1.3.1.4.21.1.1.3.1.4.21.1.1.3.1.4.31.1.1.3.1.4.31.1.1.3.1.4.41.1.1.3.1.4.41.1.1.3.1.4.51.1.1.3.1.4.51.1.1.3.1.4.61.1.1.3.1.4.61.1.1.3.1.4.71.1.1.3.1.4.7
Thanks
Parth
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Aug 15, 2001
I am working in asp and using sql server 7. I have a section where the input is to long to use a char field so i had to set the field as ntext. Now i am trying to do a section where i wanna look and see if the field is null and if not then it is to perform an operation. If it is null it is to skip and go to the next field in the record. However it is not performing this operation. It sees the first field and does pass the second one because it is null. If i put in a character into the field it will go on until it gets to a null again and then stops. Any suggestions?
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Mar 12, 2003
I have come across a column in a database table where the
Data Type = 'ntext'
and the Length = '16'
Does this mean that a maximum of 16 characters can be entered into that column?
Bianca
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Oct 26, 2005
Hallo. I need help, how pull out some inquiry string from type "ntext" in MS SQL(it is xml document). Sring has invariable length, in note is always on other position and includes variable text (e.g .:<actionId>xx</actionId>) . Position I can find out by the help of "patindex" but I don't know what then. I tryed to write procedures, but I had trouble with declaration variables (data type). Thanks and sorry for my horrible English.
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Jan 15, 2004
Hello All,
Maybe a stupid question but I'm new to the db admin work so please bear with me.
I've imported an Access db into SQL, in the Access db the field type was 'memo' to accomodate the large amount of text (on avg ruffly 4100 chars. with spaces). Now in SQL the field in the table I have set up as an ntext field, which I understood to be equivalent to a memo field in Access.
My problem is when saving data to the field the first time it saves all the data correctly with the exception of the field in question. The data in the field is '<LongText>', now when I try to update the data in the table I get a 'Data Truncated' error message and no update takes place throughout the table.
After testing this and trying different things, I've found that if I shorten this one field and try to save to the db I still get the 'Data Truncated' error message. If I shorten the data in the field AND delete the record from the SQL table then it will save just fine from there on out (which won't work for the reports).
I'm not sure what I'm missing here to get this to work the way it did in Access.
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Jun 1, 2004
Hi ...
I want define a ntext type variable and set the result of select from ntext field of table in that variable and Execute the variable .
Forexample :
Declare @A ntext
select @A=Fildntext from Table
set @A=@A+'string'
sp_executesql @A
Therefore how can i use ntext type??
thanks
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Oct 24, 2007
Hai, i need ur suggestion to use ntext in my table. basically i want to store the xml data(will be in same xml format only) in sql2000 database. the max size of the data will be 5mb.
so can i use ntext to store this data.basically, only once i insert the data to the database. no update after that. only i throw the query to retrieve that xml data from the database. is it advisable to use,ntext for this requirment. is there any other suggestion ??
help pls
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Jul 20, 2005
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