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May 27, 2006

Situation:
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At my new employer they have a production database on one server and a copy of it that is set to read only on another server which is used for reporting.

#1
They have an SQL Server Agent job on the production server that: (2 times a day)

Backs up the production database
Copies the backup file to a directory on the reporting server. (Its pretty big and can take time if there are problems with the LAN)

#2
They have an SQL Server Agent job on the Reporting server that: (scheduled to run 2 hours or so after the job on server 1 has run€¦they figured that it would be a safe bet that the backup and copy process of the first job would be done by then)

Breaks the user connections to the reporting database
Performs a restore on the reporting database using the backup file that was copied to the holding directory by the production job.
Sets some permissions for various users.
Sets the reporting database to READ ONLY.
What I would like to do is find a more efficient way to create this reporting database, I have started doing research into DTS methods but would like some opinions from more experienced users.

Thank You,
Wade

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WHOO-HOO!!! EVERYTHING MATCHES for porfolio number 92 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
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WHOO-HOO!!! EVERYTHING MATCHES for porfolio number 105 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
WHOO-HOO!!! EVERYTHING MATCHES for porfolio number 110 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
WHOO-HOO!!! EVERYTHING MATCHES for porfolio number 115 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
WHOO-HOO!!! EVERYTHING MATCHES for porfolio number 120 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
WHOO-HOO!!! EVERYTHING MATCHES for porfolio number 125 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
WHOO-HOO!!! EVERYTHING MATCHES for porfolio number 130 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
WHOO-HOO!!! EVERYTHING MATCHES for porfolio number 135 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
WHOO-HOO!!! EVERYTHING MATCHES for porfolio number 140 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
WHOO-HOO!!! EVERYTHING MATCHES for porfolio number 145 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
WHOO-HOO!!! EVERYTHING MATCHES for porfolio number 150 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server RECEIVE2 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
UH-OH - TROUBLE!!! CloseIndex mismatch for porfolio number 1000 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server TRADEANALYSIS shows an index of 189.623 [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server RECEIVE2 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
UH-OH - TROUBLE!!! CloseIndex mismatch for porfolio number 1001 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server TRADEANALYSIS shows an index of 164.058 [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server RECEIVE2 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
UH-OH - TROUBLE!!! CloseIndex mismatch for porfolio number 1002 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server TRADEANALYSIS shows an index of 255.978 [SQLSTATE 01000]
--> Server RECEIVE1 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
--> Server RECEIVE2 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
UH-OH - TROUBLE!!! CloseIndex mismatch for porfolio number 1003 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
--> Server TA1 shows an index of 159.009 [SQLSTATE 01000]
--> Server TRADEANALYSIS shows an index of 159.009 [SQLSTATE 01000]
--> Server RECEIVE1 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
--> Server RECEIVE2 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
UH-OH - TROUBLE!!! CloseIndex mismatch for porfolio number 1004 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server TRADEANALYSIS shows an index of 318.981 [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server RECEIVE2 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server RECEIVE2 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server RECEIVE2 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server RECEIVE1 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
--> Server RECEIVE2 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
UH-OH - TROUBLE!!! CloseIndex mismatch for porfolio number 1008 on 11/09/2004! [SQLSTATE 01000]
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--> Server TRADEANALYSIS shows an index of 123.179 [SQLSTATE 01000]
--> Server RECEIVE1 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
--> Server RECEIVE2 shows an index of NULL [SQLSTATE 01000]
------------------- COMPLETE -------------------- [SQLSTATE 01000]


This was cut-n-pasted here from a log file created by the actual SQL SERVER 2000 job created to run the afore-mentioned stored procedure.

After all that...my quandry is this:

What is the best way to send this info out in an email format to interested parties? Currently I have the job send out an email notification on completion, but that still requires my lazy buttocks to go look at the log file in the job (or, more accurately, on the server in the logfile directory).

I want to get the actual DATA as shown above into the email.

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