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Hi

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I am reading the WROX "Professional SQL Server 7 Programming" book.
The following code appears on page 424:

CREATE TRIGGER ProductIsRationed
ON Products
FOR UPDATE
AS
IF EXISTS
(
SELECT 'True'
FROM Inserted i
JOIN Deleted d
ON i.ProductID = d.ProductID
WHERE (d.UnitsInStock - i.UnitsInStock) > d.UnitsInStock / 2
AND d.UnitsInStock - i.UnitsInStock > 0
)
BEGIN
RAISERROR('Cannot reduce stock by more than 50%% at once.',16,1)
ROLLBACK TRAN
END

The trigger fires when an UPDATE is made to Products table. The author states that the Inserted and Deleted tables only exist for the life of the trigger, not before, and not after the trigger runs. If this is true, then why would there be any rows in the Deleted table in this case? No rows were
deleted within the trigger. As far as I can see, no rows have been updated
either. If the condition does exist, no rows will be updated, and an error will be displayed. Otherwise, the row will be updated. Then there would be a row in the inserted table. But then the trigger is finished and the inserted table for that trigger disappears. I think my logic is flawed, which is why I am writing. I don't think I fully understand the Inserted and Deleted tables.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Nathan

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Currently I'm doing the following;

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VALUES

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but when I remove one value, the result in the logtable is NULL:



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VALUES

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My trigger:
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ON dbo.personal

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AS

INSERT INTO logtable (Innan_värde, Ny_värde)

SELECT

rtrim(cast(d.personal_id as varchar)+', '+cast(d.chef_id as varchar)+', '+rtrim(d.efternamn)+', '+ rtrim(d.fornamn)+ ', '+ rtrim(d.titel)),

(cast(i.personal_id as varchar)+', '+cast(i.chef_id as varchar)+', '+rtrim(i.efternamn)+', '+ rtrim(i.fornamn)+ ' '+ rtrim(i.titel))

FROM inserted i full join deleted d on i.personal_id = d.personal_id


My table:
CREATE Table logtable

(Innan_värde varbinary(max),

Ny_värde varbinary(max))






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