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Aug 16, 2007

We have 10+ MSDE 2000 installations on the same network. Each install has a named instance and the
machines connect to eachother via VB application. We have a couple SQL 2000 Standard boxes and a SQL 2005
box all running on the same network with no issues. The problem we have recently run into is with a SQL
Express box. When the box is on the network OSQL stops finding the MSDE 2000 named instances on the
network and only the SQL Express named instance appears in the list. The second the SQL Express box is removed
from the network the named instances are visible. I monitored the UDP traffic and suspect there is an issue with the response from SQL Express to OSQL. Can't find any issues for this problem only report I found is if MSDE and Express are on the same machine.


SQL Express Response

.Q.ServerName;DDK7P4D1;InstanceName;SQLEXPRESS;IsClustered;No;Version;9.00.1399.06;;

MSDE Response

...ServerName;RED;InstanceName;SECOND;IsClustered;No;Version;8.00.194;tcp;4307;;Ser

verName;RED;InstanceName;THIRD;IsClustered;No;Version;8.00.194;tcp;0;;Server

Name;RED;InstanceName;MSSQLSERVER;IsClustered;No;Version;8.00.194;tcp;4303;;


Any ideas?

Thanks, Kevin.

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OSQL SQL 2000 Named Instances Disappear When SQL Express Computer Added To Network

Aug 16, 2007


We have 10+ MSDE 2000 installations on the same network. Each install has a named instance and the
machines connect to eachother via VB application. We have a couple SQL 2000 Standard boxes and a SQL 2005
box all running on the same network with no issues. The problem we have recently run into is with a SQL
Express box. When the box is on the network OSQL stops finding the MSDE 2000 named instances on the
network and only the SQL Express named instance appears in the list. The second the SQL Express box is removed
from the network the named instances are visible. I monitored the UDP traffic and suspect there is an issue with the response from SQL Express to OSQL. Can't find any issues for this problem only report I found is if MSDE and Express are on the same machine.


SQL Express Response

.Q.ServerName;DDK7P4D1;InstanceName;SQLEXPRESS;IsClustered;No;Version;9.00.1399.06;;

MSDE Response

...ServerName;RED;InstanceName;SECOND;IsClustered;No;Version;8.00.194;tcp;4307;;Ser

verName;RED;InstanceName;THIRD;IsClustered;No;Version;8.00.194;tcp;0;;Server

Name;RED;InstanceName;MSSQLSERVER;IsClustered;No;Version;8.00.194;tcp;4303;;


Any ideas?

Thanks, Kevin.

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Problem description:
--------------------------------------------------
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Code Block
C:>listsqlsvr -X
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Code Block
C:>listsqlsvr -X
(local);Clustered:No;Version:7.00.623
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Code Block
C:listsqlsvr -X
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DEV004
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Code Block
C:listsqlsvr -X
(local)
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DEV001
DEV002
DEV004
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INSADBACKOFFICEDRUMIS;Clustered:No;Version:8.00.194
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INSADOFFICE
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I don't mind that one INSTANCE or even the entire MACHINE is hidden from the network, but ALL instances on ALL machines??

And the SQL Browser issue also worries me a bit since it does not stop the possibily to browse the SQL instances; it removes the SQL2000 instances but adds a root instance which doesn't even exist! Also the extended info is stripped.

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Also mind that in any situation there might run a lot of computers with a lot of SQL instances and I cannot tell our customers to find which machine has the SQL TCP/IP properties set to Hide...
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Insad Grafisch b.v.

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