On The Subject Of Data Warehouses, Data Cubes && OLAP&….
Jul 20, 2005
On the subject of Data Warehouses, Data Cubes & OLAP….
I would like to speak frankly about Data Warehouses, Data Cubes and
OLAP (on-line analytical processing). Has it dawned on anyone else
that these buzz words were created by some geek who decided to take a
stab at marketing? Knowing that to the backwoods manager who knows
little of technology that new innovative names for old concepts would
help to sale their products.
I mean seriously, what is the story here? In a nut shell, and please
stop me if you disagree, but isn’t a data warehouse simply a
database? Can’t you do everything on a conventional database
like SQL Server, Oracle or DB2 that you can do on these new
proprietary Data Warehouse constructs? I mean who are they trying to
fool?
Take a look, for instance, at Data Cubes. Who hasn’t noticed
the striking similarity between data cubes and views used in all the
more robust databases? Also, what about OLAP? OLAP is nothing more
than a report generator. There’s nothing you can do with these
million dollar price tagged Data Warehouse total solution packages
that I can’t do with SQL Server, Oracle or DB2…for that
matter Microsoft Access.
As an example some sales people for Metadata Corporation has the Vice
President of I.T. in Nashville, for Healthspring, sold on their total
solution data respository which is such a scam. All they had to do
was throw a couple of buzzwords at him and they have him hypnotized.
Personally, I feel that these kinds of marketing practices undermine
our industry. It helps to unravel what little standards or
consistency we have. What do you guys think?
Stuart
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Apr 1, 2008
I'm in the middle of developing a Database for a hospital that measures its audits, inhouse operations, and finance. What we currently have and do everyday is collect data from a large database that is real time with patient data, progess, infomation, etc and dump it into a data warehouse that runs on TSI/Eclipsys. We run reports using a number of programs and dump it into Excel sheets that have charts, reports, etc. This Database for which I'm developing won't come soley from the TSI/Eclypsys source, but this is the only source thats updated regularly. I don't want to have in sync with TSI/Eclipysys in fear that every day when it updates data may be lost, not read, or worse won't be up date if there is a problem. My question is is it possible to run a query from Sequel Server 2005 that will take that data upon request using the reporing features on Sequel Server 2005. i.e. What if I need to run a report on measure B in department 12 from Jan 1-Feb 1, instead of being in sync, can I just write queries to take that information rather than double the data and take up twice the space and trouble. FYI, these datatypes rarely change in the TSI/Eclipsys data warehouse. This sure was long question and didn't intended it to be . Thanks for listening and hope to hear back.
Stephen
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Apr 30, 2002
I'm working in an area where we have multiple data warehouses which feed into a single datamart. I'm trying to find the most common 'definition' of a data warehouse and a datamart.
Thanks in advance!
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Jun 6, 2006
Süleyman writes "I want to transfer databases with cubes and virtual cubes from SQL 2000 Analysis Server to SQL 2005 SQL Express.
1.how i can transfer the cubes?
2.how i can transfer the virtual cubes?
3.Why i see the tables(saw)and the cubes in SQL Managment only under Tables together and nothing under cubes?
Please help me
many thanks
Süleyman from Germany/Frankfurt am Main"
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Mar 18, 2007
Hi again,
How's everyone doing with 2005? I still feel like my heals are dragging a bit. The "knowledge" out there still seems a bit sparse. Am I right?
I'm about 1/5 the way through a BI book and decided the course will probably be necessary as well:
http://www.kimballgroup.com/html/kucourseMDWD.html
There seems to be a lot to come to grips with.
So that's all paid for.
It's been years since I've been on a course of any kind. Too busy working! What's the etiquette? Trousers and T-shirt? Tie? Sandles & three quarter lengths?
This particular course seems to cover the "general overall approach" - which I am pretty sure is a necesary part of what you need to be able to do. The book that is related to the course (which I have already bought) seems really helpful and valuable.
But I don't think it will cover the nitty gritty of SSIS - where most of the grunt work happens. They have another course for that. But I can't wait that long. You can spend your whole life just reading books!
Are all the new little things in 2005 SSIS just a little to specialised? A little too clever? Does it limit us? Or empower us? Can we use it to get the job done? Or will it be a case again of "clever workarounds" when we travel far down a road that we find out (when it's too late and we are committed) can't provide us with what we want. Is it really saving us time? Are we better off writing the scripts ourselves?
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Me: What do you want to know from your data warehouse?
Client: Err...Emm...Everything
Me: OK, that's great. That's all I need to know. I'll see you when it's done.
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When I try to modify a OLAp Cube, suddenly appears a Error message
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And this break my cube down
This is not always, just some time, for example when I proof the cube on Microsoft Excel or After I backed up the databes of analysis
What can I do?
I'll thanks your quick answer
NOTE: My cube use MOLAP aggregations
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I'm looking into adding OLAP Cubes as part of our software to be distributed with our OLTP and eventually OLAP databases.
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Thanks
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Mar 16, 2000
Is there a way to script your OLAP cubes created in OLAP Manager to e.g. text files with CREATE CUBE and SELECT INTO statements.
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Jul 20, 2005
I cannot seem to find a group where this question would fit so I amposting it here. I have what I believe is a unique situation. I amusing SQL Server Analysis Server to build a cube of "snapshot"month-end type of data. This data is from an instance of MicrosoftNavision and I have successfully used SQL-DMO and DTSPackage Libraryobjects to allow the user to rebuild the cube through Navision. Thisis accounting data and as such, the accountants want to be able toarchive this data by month. I know through Analysis Server Managerinterface I can copy the cube and save it to a different name.I would like to know if there is a way to programmatically save a cubeto a different name with some type of automation object?Thanks
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Dec 26, 2007
While creating a model, i can access to relational tables as data source, but not to olap cubes. Is it possible to browse olap cubes for mining? If yes, how? Thanks...
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Apr 19, 2006
Hi
I try to design a report with Chart based on an Analysis Services Data source...
It does'nt work !!!
Has anyone else the same problem??
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Jul 12, 2000
How can we allow users to access a MS SQL Server OLAP cube but restrict the level of data that he might see?
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Sep 14, 2000
Does anyone know the best way to set up filters against the Cube data.
Ex. The Cube was built with data for 1998,1999, 2000.
The totals and the rollups will include the value for all years.
Client A want to access the Cube Data through Excel 2000 but only wants to see the values for 1999 - with the correct totals and rollups...
I know you can uncheck the other years in the filters in excel, but the totals and rollups will still include the values summing for all years.
Is there away to pass in a query on the fly?
Thanks.
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Dec 14, 2000
Can someone tell me how you can automate the refresh of OLAP Cubes? I just inhereted a data warehouse running on SQL7 and the idea of having to go in and manually refresh the cubes everyday is, well... stupid. I can't believe that they've been doing this for a year. Unfortunately, I'm not familar enough with MSOLAP yet and I can't figure this out. Any tips?
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How can I move OLAP Databases / specific cubes or virtual cubes from our Development Server to the UAT or LIVE servers ?
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Lee
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Mar 13, 2008
Hi,
i want to know whether it is possible to develop ADHOC reports using SSRS 2005 and OLAP Cubes. the requirement is the user should be able to select the columns he wants to see in the report.
I think this requires Dynamic RDL generation. It is very urgent. i have to give POC to the client on this. Any help in this regad is appreciated.
Thanks,
Srik
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May 24, 2007
Hi, all experts here,
Thank you very much for your kind attention.
I am having a question on the SSAS2005 OLAP Cubes storage modes. We know SSAS2005 supports 3 different storage modes: ROLAP, MOLAP, HOLAP.
Do all these three storage modes of cubes store data in another physica analysis services databases which are inrelative from their data warehouse (in case they are built on top of the data warehouse)? (so it does not matter at all even we remove the data warehouse?)
Thank you very much in advance for your help and I am looking forward to hearing from you shortly.
With best regards,
Yours sincerely,
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Nov 16, 2007
Hi all,
Does anyone know if its possible to set up OLAP Cubes in a Winform?
Thanks,
Rob
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Dec 25, 2007
I'm consistently getting >10 minute render times in a matrix based report whose underlying query only takes 1-2 seconds to run in both RS's data tab and mgt studio. The bad render times occur in preview tab, Report Viewer and when requested from Report Manager. I believe most of the time being taken is RS's attempt to pivot and present the data.
I can run a homegrown query that pivots (with unknown number of cols) the data itself in under 4 seconds but would be concerned about mapping an unknown number of columns to a table region in RS.
The matrix I'm testing with is 67 columns across (just over 2 months of daily columns) and is supposed to be 207 rows long. There is no aggregation required by RS when it is pivoting the data because each intersection occurs at most one time in the query's result set. The number of data points actually being "bucketed" is around 13,800 values. Row headers consist of 3 columns.
RS is also cutting off the number of rows it is supposed to be showing. The number of rows cutoff seems to be 100% repeatable based on the date range chosen. RS doesnt tell me when it cuts off rows that should have been displayed. From what I can tell so far, it never cuts off columns.
The number of rows cut off seems consistent across designer's preview, report viewer and when requested thru report manager. The "run" command (exclamation icon in data tab) seems to always return the correct number of unpivoted rows, just as in mgt studio.
Are there known bugs and or limitations in RS's matrix data region feature? Are there some settings or workarounds that might make it work more to my liking?
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Jan 6, 2006
I need to use cubes in VS 2005 web project. I have no clue how to create cubes or use them in my web page. I am familiar with Reporting Services but not cubes.
thanks in advance!
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Aug 6, 2007
I am trying to build a report that access data from multiple cubes. Is it possible to join multiple cubes based on their shared dimensions? Or is it possible for report to display data from multiple cubes properly aligned based on the dimension.
Environment:
SQL Server Analysis Services 2005 and Reporting Services 2005
Example:
We have multiple cubes with “Year� as a shared dimension and each one has different Rate info. The cubes have other set of shared dimensions which I am planning to set it up as a parameter. I would like to display the report as
Year
Rate1
Rate2
Rate3…
I really appreciate any suggestion.
Thanks
Haseeb
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Hi all,
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regards
Colin
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I need to extract data from SSAS' cubes into a SQL Server table.
I already read examples using Linked server (with openquery), SSIS, etc. However, the result always return as many columns per dimension as levels. I need to extract all members of a dimension in a column. E.g., when excecuting the following MDX query in Adventure Works 2014:
select [Measures].[Sales Amount] on columns,
    Non Empty [Date].[Calendar].members on rows
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I would like to get this result (MDX query in SSMS), but with keys displayed intead of names:
But I get this (MDX thru openquery or SSIS):
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May 24, 2006
Hi, all here,
I currently have a question about unknown member in cubes (as we know, there is always an additional member called unknown in an OLAP dimension)for data mining. I mean is there any way for us to deal with unknown member in cubes when mining cubes?
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Oct 25, 2007
Hi,
I'm am writing a report in SSRS 2005 on a local PC that uses cubes in AS 2000 on another server as a datasource. I am using the Microsoft SQL Server Analysis Services Extension (OLAP9) to connect to the cubes using windows authentication. I can save and preview the report in visual studio and publish the reports on IIS on my local PC with no problems but when I go to view the report in IE, I get the following error:
An error has occurred during report processing.
Query execution failed for data set 'dataset'.
Unable to recognize the requested property ID 'ReturnCellProperties'.
Have read various articles on the net with no conclusive explanation.
I have seen another post on this forum that suggests using OLEDB for Analysis Services instead but if I do this it doesn't allow me to use the MDX visual query designer. Creating the report using OLAP9 then changing to OLEDB and pasting in the query code doesn't work so well either.
I went and read http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms159219.aspx about data sources supported by SSRS 2005 and it should be ok.
I am using sql server 2005 with the latest service pack 2.
Any ideas?
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I am starting using OLAP service. The first problem the first day I use it.
I setup a system DSN for OLAP under ODBC source. I use SQL driver to create a data source to a SQL server. I am using SQL SA login account. Then I go into OLAP manager create database. Then in the library I set up a data source using the DSN I created before.In the General Tab I use OLE DB for ODBC provider. After this I try to create a new cube using the wizard. I got error the message that the SQL login is invalid. I double check it is right login account. I failed several times. Then I tried directly create data source under library and not using the DSN I created before. The first time it failed again has the same message. Then the second time when I create data source I use NT authentication instead SQL login. Now everything went fine. I was able to create a cube. But I still wondering what is preventing using SQL login account when creating data source.
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May 31, 2005
Is any way to export and import an olap cube whithout his data?
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Basically, I would like to pull the OLAP data in the relational sense.
Is this possible? If so, are any good articles on this subject?
I'm new to OLAP and would like to transition slowly.
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Hi:
The drillthrough in my cube is working fine except for the cases where the dimension member is null. For example I have the dimension
PRODUCT (dim)
- PROD_TYPE_CD (name = PROD_TYPE_CD || '-' || PROD_TYPE_NM)
- PROD_CD
-PROD_NM
So for if the data is like the following where the PROD_TYPE_CD is null :
- (name = -FOOD)
- 123
- bread
The drillthough is not displaying any data no matter I select the PROD_TYPE_CD, PROD_CD or PROD_NM in the dimension drop down altough if query the DB directly I found data to display in the drillthrough
Any ideas why this is happening and how to solve it.
Thanks
J
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