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This is a really really odd problem.

Here's the situation. I've got a DB with several tables. Let's pick out two of those tables from the bunch.. they both have approx 2500 rows in them. I take one and duplicate it (right click, All Tasks->Export Data, copy tables, etc) and it duplicates just fine into another DB.

Now, the second table.. takes FOREVER. Yet it has the same amount of rows in it! And this is a flat table export.. I'm not including dependent objects or anything like that.

Not to mention this is slow, but when I use Red-Gate SQL Data Compare, it gets stuck when it hits this specific table.

Anyone have any idea what would cause this?

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This is a classic case happened today. Queries were running fine till morning 8 AM. We upload some 50 thousand records to Ledger table (Data Conversion). Well after 30 mins, all simple AR queries started taking a long time. We DROPPED an index in LEDGER table and everything was faster....Just to be same we added back the same index again.......everything is Faster.....



What is this. ....is it our QUERY, index or huge Transactions or no free space ???



We are scheduled to run SP4, next week. But is there any solution in the mean time on what is this?



Also is they any way to KILL all SQL server processes that take more than a mins. We just don't want ALL our client to Slow down because of one query????



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