Order Of Data Load And Index Creation / Move Indexes To Separate Filegroup?
Apr 15, 2015
We are running SQL Server 2014 Enterprise Edition (64-Bit) on Windows 2012 R2 Standard (64-Bit).
1. When to create indexes, before or after data is added? Please address Clustered and Non-Clustered Indexes.
2. To move indexes to it's own filegroup, is it best to create the NON-Clustered Indexes on the separate filegroup with code similar to the example below?
CREATE NONCLUSTERED INDEX IX_Employee_OrganizationLevel_OrganizationNode
ON HumanResources.Employee (OrganizationLevel, OrganizationNode)
WITH (DROP_EXISTING = ON)
ON TransactionsFG1;
GO
I have read the following links that states that if you create the Clustered Index on a separate filegroup, it would also move the base table to that particular filegroup. (So I take it that you ONLY can move NON-CLustered Indexes to a separate filegroup.)
Placing Indexes on Filegroups:
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By default, indexes are stored in the same filegroup as the base table on which the index is created. A nonpartitioned clustered index and the base table always reside in the same filegroup. However, you can do the following:
• Create nonclustered indexes on a filegroup other than the filegroup of the base table.
Move an Existing Index to a Different Filegroup:
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Limitations and Restrictions
• If a table has a clustered index, moving the clustered index to a new filegroup moves the table to that filegroup.
• You cannot move indexes created using a UNIQUE or PRIMARY KEY constraint using Management Studio. To move these indexes use the CREATE INDEX statement with the (DROP_EXISTING=ON) option in Transact-SQL.
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Hello,
I have an PK Clustered index that I would like to move to another filegroup, which will inturn reside on another drive. Can someone point me to sql tsql or somewhere on bol that has the step by step on how to accomplish this? Thanks in advance.
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??????
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