Order Of Database Maintenance Plans (SQL 7/2000)
Jul 20, 2005
I want to know if there is a "best-practice" for setting up Database
Maintenance Plans in SQL Server 7 or 2000. To be more specific, I want
to know the order in which I complete the tasks. Do I complete
optimization first, then integrity checks, then translog backup, then
full backup??? OR is there a better order which should be used?
Should I ALWAYS backup the transaction Log before I complete a full
database backup, and if so, why??
If someone can help, it would be great.....
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May 4, 2007
Calling all those that use Maintenance Plans.
There are some perculiar goings on happening on my servers. Plans across servers have been doing funny things like dumping back ups in different folders, some jobs have been hanging, so on and so forth.
And I think it's occuring after modifying SQL Server 2000 plans with SSMS. It's so intermitent, it's hard to put my finger on exactly when it's happening. It may have not even been reported yet. Fixing the anomolies are achieved by recreating the jobs (a matter of unticking and ticking the boxes in the Maintenance Plans).
In SQL 2000, if you create more than 1 schedule on a job that was itself created using a maintenance plan, SQL Server returns a message along the lines of "Dude, do this and weird things might happen". The message doesn't say what exactly, just that it can no longer guarentee the integrity of the plan. And indeed, weird things does happen, I tested it once.
I'm guessing this is a similar problem, but has not yet been pinned down. Has anyone come across this when using SSMS to maintain 2000 plans.
At this stage, I would like to point out that this is not a slagging off Maintenance Plans thread... I'm looking in the direction of anyone who's name starts with the letter Kristen or Tara
Drew
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Nov 15, 2007
Hi All
I€™m having a problem setting up maintenance plans on one of our SQL 2005 servers but first here€™s a bit of back ground.
The server is a Virtual machine running win2k3R2 SP2 server std and SQL 2k5, A supplier arrived to install and app on the server when discovering there app didn€™t work with 2k5 they seem to have set the 2 dbs on the server into 2k compatibility mode and set the entire SQL install to think its a 2000 install. (I€™m not sure how this is done all I can see is the wrong version number in management studio) The problem this is giving me it that the folder in management studio for Database Maintenance Plans is no longer under the management folder instead it under a sub folder called Legacy (which is how management studio seems to deal with all registered 2000 instances) and as such a can no longer right click and create new database maintenance plans is there any way around this or will I have to setup my backup job manually?
Ohh and have the supplier shot at dawn
Thanks All
Jon
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Sep 21, 2007
We have some to-disk backups scheduled on our 2000 Enterprise machine - nightly fulls, hourly logs - that go to a network share located on another machine. They were originally stored directly on the same machine as SQL Server, but we changed them to a remote destination within the past few weeks. This works okay, but despite having the maintenance plan set to remove files older than 2 days, old files don't seem to be removed. Understandably, this gets to be a problem when the backup disk becomes filled.
Is there any obvious reason why this option wouldn't work against a network share? I've checked the directory permissions, and the SQL Agent domain account should have no trouble deleting the files.
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Sep 15, 1999
Hi, I'm new to SQL 7 (and fairly new to SQL Server), can anyone help with these basic questions on database maintenance plans generated by the wizard:
(1) Scheduling - can SQLServer handle say a REORG running at the same time as a backup against the same database? This should never happen, but what will happen if say a backup is due to start before a REORG has finished? To try & simulate this 'problem' I've run REORGs and backups at the same time & have yet to encounter errors I presume SQL locking handles this OK.
(2) Database integrity checks - (a) any comments on the wisdom of checking 'repair any minor problems'? Anyone had any problems with this? (b) While integrity checks are running do they take enforce a consistent view of the data? (I think this is probably the case as my reading of books online indicates that DBCC takes shared locks for the duration)
(3) Backups - does the 'VERIFY INTEGRITY' option have any impact on the live database? (My reading of RESTORE VERIFYONLY indicates it doesn't)
Thanks....
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Mar 18, 2003
What is the recommended schedule for SQL Server maintenance plans that perform database integrity checks and optimizations?
Also, more specifically, how often should we be re-building our indexes?
Thanks for your help.
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Mar 17, 2006
Hello everyone,
I'm new to DB Maint Plans, so let me apologize upfront. I've taken over a system from a DBA who is no longer working here, and he set up Maint Plans for all of the existing DBs. The plans show up in the Enterprise Manager under "Management->Database Maintenance Plans" like they should, but there are also entries in the "Management->SQL Server Agent->Jobs" area. When I set up a new DB Maint Plan for a new DB, it seems to be working fine, but I don't have any corresponding entries in Jobs. Did the other DBA set these up manually? Does anyone know why he might have done this? Is it needed? The jobs and job steps look like the following:
[DBName]Full:
EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_sqlmaint N'-PlanID 33C423D0-CC31-40BD-A357-7DCCAB1DC262 -WriteHistory -VrfyBackup -BkUpMedia DISK -BkUpDB "W:sqldataMSSQL$P001Backup" -DelBkUps 1WEEKS -CrBkSubDir -BkExt "BAK"'
[DBName]Maint Integrity Checks:
EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_sqlmaint N'-PlanID 33C423D0-CC31-40BD-A357-7DCCAB1DC262 -WriteHistory -CkDB '
[DBName]Maint Optimizations:
EXECUTE master.dbo.xp_sqlmaint N'-PlanID 33C423D0-CC31-40BD-A357-7DCCAB1DC262 -WriteHistory -RebldIdx 10 -RmUnusedSpace 50 10 '
Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Cat
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Aug 14, 2007
Hello
We created maintenance plans for Backup, we configured as:
1. Backup set expires after 2 days. (but we still see backup files are at the location from day one)
2. There is Overwrite and Append in backup file settings. what eaxactly overwrites means, in case we set up expire the backup set after 2 days.
please advice. Thanks, Jay
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Dec 14, 2000
According to the books online:
In earlier versions of SQL Server, it was recommended that DBCC statements be made a regular part of a database backup strategy.
It was recommended that databases be checked before being backed up. In SQL Server 7.0, this is no longer necessary.
Are integrity checks really no longer necessary in SQL Server 7? I have a third-party book in which the author states that he still does them
anyway. Should I continue to do DBCC CHECKDB?
Also, I am using database maintenance plans for several SQL Servers. When the integrity checks are performed will it log any errors
in the output log generated during the execution of the maintenance plan? The logs I receive look like the following:
[2] Database CPMCC_GL: Check Data and Index Linkage...
** Execution Time: 0 hrs, 39 mins, 54 secs **
If an error is detected would it be recorded here, or is this just a log to let me know that the checks were performed?
Tony
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Feb 20, 2003
SQL7: I have added a Maintenance Plan to backup to 4mm dat tape the master and msdb SQL databases as well as another database relative to our application called WISE. This works fine; however, it appears to always append to the media as opposed to overwriting (preferred). Any help would be appreciated.....
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Aug 22, 2005
Hi,
I am going to set up maintenance plans on all our SQL servers (7.0 and 2000). I have found several 'tutorials' on how to do this, but no one is describing the options in detail. Can you guys/gals please help me out? We have alot of small databases and some medium (1-2GB).
Thanks//Stefan
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Feb 15, 2005
We have Veritas' Backupexec running in our Enterprise and the Veritas Install actually installs MS SQL Server MSDN on each Server in the Enterprise.
It looks like it also sets up a default Maintenance plan within each of the MSDN Instances.
I guess my question is.. Can I manage the Maintenance Plans on these MSDN Instances via the SQL Server EM GUI from my desktop?? Seems like when I look at the Maintenance plans alot of the options are greyed out or not available. What I am trying to do is modify one of the maintenance plans to have the backups deleted after one week (One of the Instances has been running a complete backup on the Backupexec Databases for a year and there are a years worth of backups on the Server) but the option to "remove files older than" is 'greyed out' ??????
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Feb 20, 2008
Eh uhhhh where did the old '-DelBkUps 7DAYS' (delete files older than 7 Days) option go?
Is this a future product enhancement?
I fee like such a dirty noob.
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Dec 1, 2007
Does anyone get any issues creating "Backup" jobs as a Maintenance Plan when specifying the backup location as a UNC path (e.g. "\backup_bladeBACKUPS")?
For some reason, if i try using the UNC path for a 1-time backup, it works, but when I am trying to put it into a scheduled job, it does not 'seem' to perform the Backup step.
Help please...
seethem
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Feb 28, 2007
Does anyone know if Sql Server 2005 Express SP2 support scheduled backups and maintenance plans?
Looking at http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb283536.aspx , it appears to...
Thanks.
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Mar 5, 2007
I created several Maint.Plans before installing SP2. Now I need to modify them and I get the following error. I cannot even Create new ones, because of the Enumerate error. Please advice if this error is due to the same issues mentioned on this blog.
When replying please cc me at Camilo.Torres@bellsouth.com
Thanks
TITLE: Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio
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Enumerate target servers failed for Job 'Daily Maintenance Plan 1'. (Microsoft.SqlServer.Smo)
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&ProdVer=9.00.3042.00&EvtSrc=Microsoft.SqlServer.Management.Smo.ExceptionTemplates.FailedOperationExceptionText&EvtID=Enumerate+target+servers+Job&LinkId=20476
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Failed to retrieve data for this request. (Microsoft.SqlServer.SmoEnum)
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&LinkId=20476
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An exception occurred while executing a Transact-SQL statement or batch. (Microsoft.SqlServer.ConnectionInfo)
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String or binary data would be truncated. (Microsoft SQL Server, Error: 8152)
For help, click: http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink?ProdName=Microsoft+SQL+Server&ProdVer=09.00.3042&EvtSrc=MSSQLServer&EvtID=8152&LinkId=20476
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Sep 18, 2000
Is there a way to find out what Trans-SQL is being executed by a Maintenance Plan. More specifically, if I select Attempt to Repair on the Check Database Integrity screen, I know it is executing DBCC CheckDB, but which repair option is it using (repair_fast, repair_allow_data_loss, repair_rebuild)?
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Jun 8, 2000
I defined a maintenance plan to do a backup, scheduled it for midnight, but no job ever ran. Is there some other step to do?
thanks!
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Feb 18, 2000
A year ago one of our SQL Server 6.5 servers was upgraded
to SQL Server 7.0 sp1. My compatibility level still shows
6.5, however. The SQLAgent has been using the 'localsystem'
account up until earlier this week. I changed the login
to be a domain account with System Administrator
permissions and removed the SA permissions from the
BuiltinAdministrator group. (My ultimate goal is to limit
the access NT Administrators have within my SQL databases.) All of my scheduled jobs run without error except the maintenance plans. (All
jobs have an owner of sa.)
The errors that I receive are permission errors-not being able
to get into tables on the MSDB database. However, if I open
Query Analyzer with the SQLAgent domain account and perform
a select on one of the tables in MSDB, it is successful. If I give
the BuiltinAdministrator account the SA permissions again
while still keeping the SQLAgent using the new domain account,
the maintenance jobs succeed.
Is this an upgrade problem since I do have other SQL 7.0 servers
that don't have this problem? How can I correct this?
Thank you!
Toni
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Nov 6, 2003
Is there a way to script out maintenance plans (and their corresponding jobs) from a server ?
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Apr 25, 2001
I used the wizard to create maintenance plans on my SQL 2000 servers. Part of the plan fails (checking data and index linkeage) when the job runs in off hours. It fails because it says the DB is not in single user mode. Shouldn't something in the plan take care of this. The wizard gives you no options. Or is this a bug. These jobs ran fine in SQL 7
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Jun 17, 2008
Hi,
Whenever I create a maintenance plan either manualy or via the wizard, I get the following error message when saving it.
Does anyone know what might be wrong?
Best regards
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Fehler beim Speichern des Wartungsplanes.
(Error when saving the maintenance plan.)
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Mindestens ein Argument ist ungĂĽltig.
(At least one argument is invalid.)
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Speicherort des Programms:
(Save location of programme:)
bei Microsoft.SqlServer.Dts.Runtime.Application.SaveToSqlServerAs(Package package, IDTSEvents events, String packagePath, String serverName, String serverUserName, String serverPassword)
bei Microsoft.SqlServer.Management.DatabaseMaintenance.MaintenancePlan.Save()
bei Microsoft.SqlServer.Management.MaintenancePlanWizard.MaintenancePlanWizardForm.PerformActions()
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Aug 16, 2006
I am currently using sql server 2005 standard edition. I just completed a maintenance plan using the wizard to perform a full backup nightly of a user database. I noticed there was no option to delete backups greater then a number of days old like we have with plans in sql server 2000. Is there a way of doing this through the plan in sql server 2005?
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Jan 24, 2007
Ok, I must be blowing my mind here.
I created a maintenance plan to run on Sundays at 10PM.
This plan failed due to Tempdb running out of space.
I rectified this and scheduled the maintenance plan to run the next day. This did not work either. The underlying jobs just did not kick off. Nothing in the event viewer or SQL Logs.
The reason, the jobs that this plan created also need to be changed.
Has anybody encountered this?
Further, I have a SQL Express on my laptop, which I use for maintaining our db servers(SQL 2005 Standard Version). When I alter the portions of the Maintenance plans(e.g. I changed the selection of the databases for "Index rebuilding" part) using my work station connected to a Production/QA server,when I try to save the changes it gives me an error: "Failed GUID........and some 16 digit number most of which are all XXXXX". But if I change the schedule it does not give an error but it does not change it either.....
I am really lost. I never had such problems on 7 or 2000.
I am not sure if these are co-related.
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Mar 7, 2008
I am trying to set up a maintenance plan is SQL Server. I set one up to query one of my very small tables for testing purposes. I made sure that I have the server entered in correctly and also verified that I needed to make sure that I have both TCP/IP and Named Pipes both enabled. However, everytime I set something up and try to execute it. The plans ends up failing. This isn't a hard process but something else isn't setup that needs to be. Does anyone have any ideas pertaining to this.
Is there a special credential that needs to be setup for this?
Any help on this would be great. Thanks
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Dec 7, 2007
Hi,
We have msde 8.00.760 - which is reportedly sp3, on a couple servers and all are having a problem. One is on 2000 and the other on 2003. Looking at the maintenance plans - the full backup directory and "remove files older than" box are blank. I've looked at quite a few threads - microsoft doesn't have anything specifically about this problem. Only that pre sp1 you can't edit a maintenance plan ON a server, have to remote in. Found one person who says to create a registry for the default backup path - but I just can't believe that this kind of behavior would go on for 3 service packs - and I don't see any mention of it in the readme for sp4.
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May 25, 2007
I'm not even sure where to post this, but has anyone had a problem with maintenance plans disappearing?
I mean the SSIS package and the job just disappearing....?
I have four servers. Two dev and two prod. I created a pretty simple maintenance plan to backup databases. There are four tasks in the plan. One for each of four databases. Backing each up to a separate file, all in the same folder.
The plan gets associated with a job that has it run daily, every six hours, with no end date.
The plan runs just fine. Then this morning, on one of the servers, the plan and its job are just gone.
This is the second time this has happened. And it's not the same server that it happened on the first time.
Why would a maintenance plan just disappear?
Anyone?
J
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May 7, 2008
I am creating a SSIS package on my workstation, and I then move the plan to the SQL server. I am able to run and see the package in Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio. However, I am looking for the location of the package on the server (its location in the files and folders on the server).
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Mar 18, 2008
Hi:
2 SQL2000 ent sp4 servers.
Try to 'one step' to export all jobs and related maintenance plans from serverA to serverB, via backup msdb from A and restore to B.
After restore msdb to serverB, I saw all jobs and related maintenance plans, but the jobs are not runable.
Do I have to save jobs scripts one by one from A, then rerun on B one by one?
thanks
David
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Jun 29, 2007
This error msgs persist after installing SP2 Hotfixes.
Any ideas?? Please see below:
TLE: Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio
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Exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation. (mscorlib)
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ADDITIONAL INFORMATION:
Creating an instance of the COM component with CLSID {E80FE1DB-D1AA-4D6B-BA7E-040D424A925C} from the IClassFactory failed due to the following error: c001f011. (Microsoft.SqlServer.ManagedDTS)
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Creating an instance of the COM component with CLSID {E80FE1DB-D1AA-4D6B-BA7E-040D424A925C} from the IClassFactory failed due to the following error: c001f011. (Microsoft.SqlServer.ManagedDTS)
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Jul 10, 2006
I am running a SQL maintenance job on a 40 GB database which performsoptimizations by re-orginizing data and indexes pages. After the jobis finished, a separate job peforming a SQL transaction log backup isrun on the same database, which produces a 30 GB transaction log backupfile. Is there any way to turn off logging during the maintenanceplan, so that when the transaction log backup occurrs it will notproduce a large backup file?
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Apr 21, 2006
If your principal fails and your mirror assumes the main role and it is in Full recovery mode (which it has to be in Standard edition), then the log files will grow and grow until a transaction backup and shrink is executed.
I have maintenance plans running daily (and hourly for transaction log backup/shrink) on my principal, but nothing on my mirror.
Do I need to set up the same maintenance plans on my mirror server???
Thanks
Ed
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Feb 5, 2007
Hello All,
I've searched high and low for documentation on this to no avail.
Basically my goal is to create a maintenance plan in SQLSERVER2005 via the command line. I need to create this plan in a way that it can be seen in the list of Maintenance Plans in the Management Studio Interface. I went into the SSIS designer and created my plan. I now have a DTSX file. I tried the dtutil.exe utility, however i never saw my maintenance plan in the list of plans.
I ran dtutil.exe and did /FILE to /SQL but i don't see the plan listed or in a way a user could modify it, which is of the utmost importance to my clients.
How do i get my file to turn into a real running Maintenance Plan that is seen in the list of Maintenance Plans via the Management Studio Interface and is editable by clients?
Other things to keep in mind, i'm attempting to create these via Installshield MSI installer. So i need to do it via command line, or file system-wise. No interface or user interaction.
Please Advise.
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