Order Of Joins And Performance

Jul 23, 2005

Does the order in which Joins are peformed (from left to right) matter
whether inner or outer when it comes to performance. Assuming that all
indexes are the same but the size of the tables is different?

For example let's assume we have 5 tables, TABLE1, TABLE2, TABLE3,
TABLE4, TABLE5.

For example:
SELECT Smth from TABLE1 INNER JOIN TABLE2 on Condition1
INNER JOIN TABLE3 on Condition2
LEFT JOIN TABLE4 on Condition3
INNER JOIN TABLE5 on Condition4.

Does SQL optimize the query and finds the best way to inner join or it
starts doing the JOINS from left to right?
Thank you for your your feedback.

Gent

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Order Of Joins

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i have below sql with several joins. Under sql 2000 should it be assumed that sql will create the best plan for however you set the joins or is there an order when using left joins to follow

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l.sign_off_date,
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ltrim(rtrim(upper(prv.first_name))) + ' ' + ltrim(rtrim(upper(prv.last_name))) as prov_name,
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from patient p
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inner join patient_encounter pe on pe.account_id = p.account_id
inner join location loc on loc.location_key = pe.location_id
inner join lab_nor l on l.enc_id = pe.enc_id
inner join provider prv on prv.provider_id = l.ordering_provider
left outer join profile pr on pr.user_id = l.sign_off_person
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For example, if a query says
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Also,

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******

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Have a great time
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It pays to be honest to your DBA

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Hi.

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[report_date] [smalldatetime] NOT NULL ,
[param] [char] (10) COLLATE Cyrillic_General_CI_AS NOT NULL ,
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[param_value2] [decimal](18, 2) NULL ,
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[report_date] [smalldatetime] NOT NULL ,
[param] [char] (10) COLLATE Cyrillic_General_CI_AS NOT NULL ,
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)
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Similar are definitons for other partitions - q2, q3 and q4.

And here is partitioned view itself:
create view dbo.data_DTB
as
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union all
select * from dbo.be_data_DTB_part_2007_q2
union all
select * from dbo.be_data_DTB_part_2007_q3
union all
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I want users to access data SELECTing from view data_DTB, while I perform daily inserts right into be_data_DTB_part_2007_q4.

In general, this solution works well. For example:




Code Block
set statistics profile on
go
select * from data_DTB where report_date = '2007-Apr-16'
go
set statistics profile off
go

1290674 1 SELECT * FROM [data_DTB] WHERE [report_date]=@1
1290674 1 |--Concatenation
0 1 |--Filter(WHERE:(STARTUP EXPR(Convert([@1])<='Mar 31 2007 12:00AM' AND Convert([@1])>='Jan 1 2007 12:00AM')))
0 0 | |--Clustered Index Seek(OBJECT:([MYDB].[dbo].[be_data_DTB_part_2007_q1].[idc_be_data_DTB_part_2007_q1_report_date_param]), SEEK:([be_data_DTB_part_2007_q1].[report_date]=Convert([@1])) ORDERED FORWARD)
1290674 1 |--Filter(WHERE:(STARTUP EXPR(Convert([@1])<='Jun 30 2007 12:00AM' AND Convert([@1])>='Apr 1 2007 12:00AM')))
1290674 1 | |--Clustered Index Seek(OBJECT:([MYDB].[dbo].[be_data_DTB_part_2007_q2].[idc_be_data_DTB_part_2007_q2_report_date_param]), SEEK:([be_data_DTB_part_2007_q2].[report_date]=Convert([@1])) ORDERED FORWARD)
0 1 |--Filter(WHERE:(STARTUP EXPR(Convert([@1])<='Sep 30 2007 12:00AM' AND Convert([@1])>='Jul 1 2007 12:00AM')))
0 0 | |--Clustered Index Seek(OBJECT:([MYDB].[dbo].[be_data_DTB_part_2007_q3].[idc_be_data_DTB_part_2007_q3_report_date_param]), SEEK:([be_data_DTB_part_2007_q3].[report_date]=Convert([@1])) ORDERED FORWARD)
0 1 |--Filter(WHERE:(STARTUP EXPR(Convert([@1])<='Dec 31 2007 12:00AM' AND Convert([@1])>='Oct 1 2007 12:00AM')))
0 0 |--Clustered Index Seek(OBJECT:([MYDB].[dbo].[be_data_DTB_part_2007_q4].[idc_be_data_DTB_part_2007_q4_report_date_param]), SEEK:([be_data_DTB_part_2007_q4].[report_date]=Convert([@1])) ORDERED FORWARD)


As far as i see it checks filter parameter fitting CHECK constraint for each partition. Then it peforms clustered index seek for partition actually containing data and avoids using 3 other partitions. Thats great! This example just illustraits that partitioning actually works for me.

Unfortunately, there is another query with just awful performance on partitions comparing to single table. Lets try to get few rows entered last day:




Code Block
set showplan_text on
go
select top 10 * from DTB order by report_date desc
go
set showplan_text off
go

|--Top(10)
|--Bookmark Lookup(BOOKMARK:([Bmk1000]), OBJECT:([MYDB].[dbo].[DTB]))
|--Index Scan(OBJECT:([MYDB].[dbo].[DTB].[IX_DTB_DT_ACC]), ORDERED BACKWARD)


Excellent! It runs just for only few seconds. But using partitions:




Code Block
set showplan_text on
go
select top 10 * from data_DTB order by report_date
go
set showplan_text off
go

|--Top(10)
|--Merge Join(Concatenation)
|--Merge Join(Concatenation)
| |--Merge Join(Concatenation)
| | |--Sort(ORDER BY:([be_data_ DTB_part_2007_q1].[report_date] ASC, [be_data_ DTB_part_2007_q1].[param] ASC, [be_data_DTB_part_2007_q1].[param_value1] ASC, [be_data_ DTB_part_2007_q1].[param_value2] ASC, [be_
| | | |--Clustered Index Scan(OBJECT:([MYDB].[dbo].[be_data_DTB_part_2007_q1].[idc_be_data_DTB_part_2007_q1_report_date_param]))
| | |--Sort(ORDER BY:([be_data_DTB_part_2007_q2].[report_date] ASC, [be_data_ DTB_part_2007_q2].[param] ASC, [be_data_DTB_part_2007_q2].[prama_value1] ASC, [be_data_DTB_part_2007_q2].[param_value2] ASC, [be_
| | |--Clustered Index Scan(OBJECT:([MYDB].[dbo].[be_data_DTB_part_2007_q2].[idc_be_data_DTB_part_2007_q2_report_date_param]))
| |--Sort(ORDER BY:([be_data_DTB_part_2007_q3].[report_date] ASC, [be_data_DTB_part_2007_q3].[param] ASC, [be_data_DTB_part_2007_q3].[param_value1] ASC, [be_data_DTB_part_2007_q3].[param_value2] ASC, [be_data_
| |--Clustered Index Scan(OBJECT:([MYDB].[dbo].[be_data_DTB_part_2007_q3].[idc_be_data_DTB_part_2007_q3_report_date_param]))
|--Sort(ORDER BY:([be_data_DTB_part_2007_q4].[report_date] ASC, [be_data_DTB_part_2007_q4].[param] ASC, [be_data_DTB_part_2007_q4].[param_value1] ASC, [be_data_DTB_part_2007_q4].[param_value2] ASC, [be_data_
|--Clustered Index Scan(OBJECT:([MYDB].[dbo].[be_data_DTB_part_2007_q4].[idc_be_data_DTB_part_2007_q4_report_date_param]))


As one can see that€™s just awful . When I make graphical execution plan with Ctrl+L it says costs for Sort operations are thousands. I didn€™t run this query to check statistics profile, because on our server it will run for hours.

I found a topic regarding this problem: http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=1270479&SiteID=17

Mostafa Elhemali describes exactly my problem in the last post. I also though that getting top 10 * from partitioned view shouldn€™t be a problem €“ it€™s quite obvious just to grab top 10 from each partition and then find top 10 amongst them. Looks like it doesn€™t work this way though.

So the question is. Is there any new workarounds for this problem? Or maybe it is already solved in latest patches for SQL2005? I know that SQL2005 introduces new way of partitioning tables, maybe the problem will go if using SQL2005 partitioned tables instead of oldstyle partitioned views?

Thank you.


p.s. Upon reviewing my post i noticed that issued ORDER BY report_date DESC against unpartitioned table, and ORDER BY report_date against partitioned view. Well, specifying ORDER BY report_date DESC for partitioned view gives similar results, except for few ASCs are replaced with DESCs.

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Hi,guys!I have a table below:CREATE TABLE rsccategory(categoryid NUMERIC(2) IDENTITY(1,1),categoryname VARCHAR(20) NOT NULL,PRIMARY KEY(categoryid))Then I do:INSERT rsccategory(categoryname) VALUES('url')INSERT rsccategory(categoryname) VALUES('document')INSERT rsccategory(categoryname) VALUES('book')INSERT rsccategory(categoryname) VALUES('software')INSERT rsccategory(categoryname) VALUES('casus')INSERT rsccategory(categoryname) VALUES('project')INSERT rsccategory(categoryname) VALUES('disert')Then SELECT * FROM rsccategory in ,I can get a recordeset with the'categoryid' in order(1,2,3,4,5,6,7)But If I change the table definition this way:categoryname VARCHAR(20) NOT NULL UNIQUE,The select result is in this order (3,5,7,2,6,4,1),and 'categoryname 'in alphabetic.Q:why the recordset's order is not the same as the first time since'categoryid' is clustered indexed.If I change the table definition again:categoryname VARCHAR(20) NOT NULL UNIQUE CLUSTEREDthe result is the same as the first time.Q:'categoryname' is clustered indexed this time,why isn't in alphabeticorder?I am a newbie in ms-sqlserver,or actually in database,and I do havesought for the answer for some time,but more confused,Thanks for yourkind help in advance!

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Hi,
We got a problem.
supposing we have a table like this:

CREATE TABLE a (
aId int IDENTITY(1,1) NOT NULL,
aName string2 NOT NULL
)
go
ALTER TABLE a ADD
CONSTRAINT PK_a PRIMARY KEY CLUSTERED (aId)
go

insert into a values ('bank of abcde');
insert into a values ('bank of abcde');
...
... (20 times)

select top 5 * from a order by aName
Result is:
6 Bank of abcde
5 Bank of abcde
4 Bank of abcde
3 Bank of abcde
2 Bank of abcde

select top 10 * from a order by aName
Result is:
11 Bank of abcde
10 Bank of abcde
9 Bank of abcde
8 Bank of abcde
7 Bank of abcde
6 Bank of abcde
5 Bank of abcde
4 Bank of abcde
3 Bank of abcde
2 Bank of abcde

According to this result, user see the first 5 records with id 6, 5, 4, 3, 2 in page 1, but when he tries to view page 2, he still see the records with id 6, 5, 4, 3, 2. This is not correct for users.
Of course we can add order by aid also, but there are tons of sqls like this, we can't update our application in one shot.
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FROM dbo.UWYearDetail INNER JOIN
dbo.UWYearGroup ON dbo.UWYearDetail.UWYearGroupId = dbo.UWYearGroup.UWYearGroupId
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Product: Microsoft SQL Server Express Edition
Version: 9.00.1399.06
Server Collation: SQL_Latin1_General_CP1_CI_AS

for example,

create table test_sort
( description varchar(75) );

insert into test_sort values('Non-A');
insert into test_sort values('Non-O');
insert into test_sort values('Noni');
insert into test_sort values('Nons');

then execute the following selects:
select
*
from
test_sort
order by
cast( 1 as nvarchar(75));

select
*
from
test_sort
order by
cast( description as nvarchar(75));

Resultset1
----------
Non-A
Non-O
Noni
Nons

Resultset2
----------
Non-A
Noni
Non-O
Nons


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1 3

2 4

2 5

3 6

3 7

5 8

5 9

7 10

7 11

11 12

11 13


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as

(

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select a.id

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)

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