Partial Backup/Restore Filegroup Synchronization
Jun 4, 2008
Our current application which is deployed to numerous client sites usually requires the database to be returned to us to upgrade for the next release. The current process is:
- Perform a full backup at the client site
- Send the backup to us for upgrade
- Perform a full restore process to our local db server
- Modify the database
- Perform a full backup
- Send the backup to the client
- Perform a full restore over the original database.
This has served our purposes so far, however, we are about to introduce functionality that will enable the client to upload files for storing in the database.
To manage this we have a single DBFiles table which due to the potential size of it’s contents we determined that it would be best to store it in it’s own FileGroup. The idea being that then we could backup just the Primary FileGroup for returning to our offices as the DBFiles table would remain untouched.
The proposed process would now be:
- Perform a partial backup of the primary filegroup at the client site
- Perform a partial backup of the DBFiles filegroup at the client site. This only ever stays at the client site and is never restored at our office.
- Send the primary filegroup backup to our office for upgrade
- Perform a partial restore or the primary filegroup to our local db server. This will leave the DBFiles filegroup offline which is OK as we do not need to change it.
- Modify the database
- Perform a partial backup of the primary filegroup
- Send the partial backup to the client
- Perform a partial restore of the primary filegroup over the original database. This will leave the DBFiles filegroup offline.
- Perform a partial restore of the DBFiles filegroup over the original database.
This last step results in the recovery failing due to a reason like “The roll forward start point is now at log sequence number (LSN) 66787000000001800001. Additional roll forward past LSN 66787000000008900001 is required to complete the restore sequence�.
I have tried a number of variations including backing up both the client and local log files for recovery and using copy_only but I have yet to be able to successfully complete the process. Is there a means we can synchronize these 2 backup files without worrying about the logs for this part of the process?
Our requirements are basically to be able to perform a partial backup and exclude the DBFiles table as it is likely to be very large so we can send it back to our offices for upgrade and then return it to the client for restoring back to the original database while maintaining the data in the clients DBFiles filegroup and table.
Any guidance on what we need to change or a better process would be appreciated.
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May 8, 2008
Hi - I am using partial backup & restore on a Data Warehouse database currently in development.
When I recently tested the restore procedure I got the following error when trying to an online restore of one of the ReadOnly filegroups:
Msg 3125, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
The database is using the simple recovery model. The data in the backup it is not consistent with the current state of the database. Restoring more data is required before recovery is possible. Either restore a full file backup taken since the data was marked read-only, or restore the most recent base backup for the target data followed by a differential file backup.
I believe I received this message as the Filegroup I was attempting to restore had been set ReadWrite since it was backed up.
So - I am looking for a query to test that all my filegroup backups are consistent with the live database.
I think I can achieve this by checking the read_write_lsn & read_only_lsn values for the filegroup to restore are the same as the values in sys.master_files for the live database.
I am reading the lsn values for the backup from msdb.dbo.backupfile
Can anyone confirm this is the correct approach? or is there a better way to do this??
Many Thanks
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I am new to DBA activities. I have a database name Sample_DB in SQL Server 2014. Â
This database has below files
LogicalName FileType
FileGroup
Sample_DB_Rows  ROWS Data
PRIMARY
Sample_DB_C1 ROWS Data
Country1
Sample_DB_C2 ROWS Data
Country2
Sample_DB_Docs FILESTREAM Data
FileGroupForDoc
My database has 3 tables namely Tbl1, Tbl2 and Tbl3.
Tbl1 data stored in primary file group
Tbl2 is partitioned based on a key column CountryId and stored in respective filegroup
Tbl3 is enabled to store documents, files etc., and its data will be stored in filestream enabled filegroup.
Problem:
I need to take backup of each file group separately.
I need to restore the backed up file group separately. Is this possible, how to do it.
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What is the difference between "Files aned File Groups" backup and Partial Backup?
Looks like both are same.. Please comment.
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Hi ,
I am restoring a VLDB from a Standby server which has just .mdf and .ldf to my production server which has .mdf and a file group with a single .ndf
file, i want to restore the databse on to the Secondary file(is this possible) i checked the BOl but could not figure out of what command is to be given
Any hhelp will be greatly appreciated..
Thanks in advance
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Using SQL Server 2000 SP3 I'm developing a data warehouse where datawill be archived off to a filegroup, this filegroup backed up and thetables in this filegroup truncated to free up space on the server.So using Enterprise Manager I've copied data to the filegroup tables,backed up the file group, truncated the tables, but when I haverestored the file group the database is stuck in a state of'(loading...)' and I can't get it to resume. I've tried running thecommand RESTORE LOG databaseName WITH RECOVERY but get an error messagethat the database has been restored to different time (sorry I can'tremember exact syntax but I'm not at my work computer)Is this familiar to anyone? Ignoring the filegroups is there a way Ican get the database .MDF back up and running?Thanks
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Dec 8, 2006
Hi!
Last time I applied new filegroup to our database. I call it HISTORY, bacause it stores all moditications of tables on PRIMARY filegroup. I.e. if on PRIMARY filegroup is table User, then on HISTORY filegroup is table UserHistory which, stores changes apllied to User table. It's simple database changes monitoring. We use SQL SERVER 2000 Standard Edition.
One person of our team (Artur) needs copy tables from PRIMARY filegroup to his computer to perform some experiments. Previously there aren't problem. He make full backup of our database, copy it to DVD drive and restore it on his computer. Backup was size of 3GB.
When we added monitoring full backup is size of 20GB which is too large to DVD disk. So I thoght that we can backup only PRIMARY filegroup, because history of changes is useless for Artur.
Unfortunately it is not simple as we wish. I tried those steps:
Perform PRIMARY filegroup backup to file.
Copy this file to Artur's computer by DVD disk.
Perform our database's Trnsaction Log on Artur's computer.
Restore PRIMARY filegroup on Artur's computer (then database is "Loading" is Enterprise Manager)
Restore backup done in step 3. --- Step 5. yelds error (File 'TeleDB' has been rolled forward to LSN 51...01. This log terminates at LSN 50...01, which is too early to apply the WITH RECOVERY option. Reissue the RESTORE LOG statement WITH NORECOVERY.
What is wrong?
Is it possible to move data to Artur's computer this way, without full backup and serie of log backups?
Can I use other alternative solution to move data?
Best regards,
Walter
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with smiles
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I did a file group backup and restore of a database and then when I tried to perform a full backup I am getting the above error. Any thoughts. I indeed happen to see this error http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/921106 but not sure if both errors are the same.
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Sep 26, 2007
Hi,
I have a database running on sqlserver 2000. This database (let's call it TestDatabase) has 2 filegroups called 'PRIMARY' and 'SECONDARY', and is bulk-logged. The 'SECONDARY' filegroup is set to readonly since no data gets changed there by the applications, it is read-only data. Sometimes this read-only data needs an update, so I need to update the data in the 'SECONDARY' filegroup by running some long data-operations. These data-operations are executed and checked on a another database (which is a backup of TestDatabase) called TestDatabaseDemo. When everything is correct in TestDatabaseDemo we can copy all objects from the 'SECONDARY'-filegroup of TestDatabaseDemo to the 'SECONDARY'-filegroup of TestDatabase using DTS. This takes a long time and I want to try if I could speed up things by using the following strategy:
Take a full backup of TestDatabase
Restore full backup as TestDatabaseDemo
Run long-running data-operations on TestDatabaseDemo
Take a backup of TestDatabaseDemo
Restore only the 'SECONDARY'-filegroup from TestDatabaseDemo to TestDatabase, and keeping the 'PRIMARY' filegroup from TestDatabase as it was at that moment.
Suppose we arrived at step 5, I am executing the following commands:
Code Snippet
--make full backup of TestDatabase
backup database TestDatabase to DISK='G: emp estdatabase.bak' with init
--make full backup of TestDatabaseDemo
backup database TestDatabaseDemo to DISK='G: emp estdatabasedemo.bak' with init
backup log TestDatabase to DISK='g: emp estdatabase.log'
--restore secondary filegroup from TestDatabasedemo-backup
restore database TestDatabase FILEGROUP='SECONDARY' FROM DISK='G: emp estdatabasedemo.bak'
with move 'TestDatabase_Data_Secondary' to 'G: empTestDatabase_Data_secondary.ndf', NORECOVERY
--restore primary filegroup from Testdatabase-backup
restore database TestDatabase FILEGROUP='PRIMARY' FROM DISK='G: emp estdatabase.bak'
with move 'TestDatabase_Data' to 'G: empTestDatabase_Data.mdf', NORECOVERY
--restore log and try to get db onlin
restore log TestDatabase FROM DISK='g: emp estdatabase.log' with recovery
I get the following error:
The log in this backup set terminates at LSN 6000000021500001, which is too early to apply to the database. A more recent log backup that includes LSN 6000000022400003 can be restored.
When trying to execute "RESTORE DATABASE TestDatabase WITH RECOVERY; " as last statement
I get error:
The database cannot be recovered because the files have been restored to inconsistent points in time.
How i can restore the read-only filegroup correctly?
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hello,
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The backup of the file or filegroup "sysft_ftcat_documentindex" is not permitted because it is not online. BACKUP can be performed by using the FILEGROUP or FILE clauses to restrict the selection to include only online data. [SQLSTATE 42000] (Error 3007) BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally. [SQLSTATE 42000] (Error 3013)
I appreciate your help in advance!
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I have then created a "live" customers tables within the primary filegroup and assigned my existing "archive" customers tables within the secondary filegroup.
If I try to perform a file or filegroup level backup within management studio, those options are greyed out. I can only perform a database backup.
If I switch back to the full recovery model, the options are no longer greyed out.
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Hi There,
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Executing the query "BACKUP DATABASE [XXXX] TO [XXXX]
WITH NOFORMAT, NOINIT, NAME = N'XXXX_backup_20060819040020', SKIP, REWIND, NOUNLOAD, STATS = 10
" failed with the following error:
"The backup of the file or filegroup "sysft_XXXX_FT" is not permitted because it is not online.
BACKUP can be performed by using the FILEGROUP or FILE clauses
to restrict the selection to include only online data.
BACKUP DATABASE is terminating abnormally.".
Possible failure reasons: Problems with the query,
"ResultSet" property not set correctly, parameters not set correctly, or connection not established correctly.
===============
Can anybody please suggest me what I should do?
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