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Jul 28, 2005

In the "Example: Detecting a Poison Message" section, it reads: This Transact-SQL example shows a simple, stateless service that includes logic for handling poison messages. Before the stored procedure receives a message, the procedure saves the transaction. When the procedure cannot process a message, the procedure rolls the transaction back to the save point. The partial rollback returns the message to the queue while continuing to hold a lock on the conversation group for the message.

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May 14, 2007

Hallo,
I have some problems to handle the poison messages.



Messages are exchanged between 2 databases on the same SQL Server instance.
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On the target queue I activated a SP and the main code is:

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WAIT FOR (Receive (1) ..) timeout 5000

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BEGIN

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END

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BEGIN

END CONVERSATION @dialog

END

COMMIT TRANSACTION



My communication has a strange behaviour:

if I type

Begin

insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)

insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)

....

insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)

end


Everything work fine but If I write an insert of 1000 message coming from an another table and I use the

cursor login after I while the transmission stop because the Target queue become inactive.
I can see my messages stuck in the Initiator transmission_queue so I think that there is some Poison message that cause 5 rollback and disable the receiver queue.

First I would like to isolate the wrong message and carry on with the insert, my application doesn't have to stop the conversation or return any error, but If I use the Sql server Debugger I'm not able to debug the Target queue's stored procedure.



I suppose that some error happens on the Target queue's stored procedure but how can I first at all find it out?

Maybe it has something to do with the transition wrapped around the RECEIVE command?

thank you for any helps!

Marina B.

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Hi!
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Hi,

I'm using the Service Broker to parallize my processes (I know that the Service Broker was not designed for that purpose), however it's working quite well.

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