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Jan 13, 2006

Hello again,
I have some poison message detection in place, based on the BOL sample. My problem is that after the 5th message retry my queue goes down - that is the fifth retry on any message. In actuallity, the first message is retried 3 times and it is taken off the queue [for real], the second message comes in and on the second retry - pooof - the queue is down.

I though the poison mechanism should work on a per message basis. It there a setting for the queue I missed? Is my only chance for to fix this: re-enable the queue upon BROKER_QUEUE_DISABLED event notification?


Thanks,

Lubomir

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