Poison Messages - 5 Times's A Charm
Jan 13, 2006
Hello again,
I have some poison message detection in place, based on the BOL sample. My problem is that after the 5th message retry my queue goes down - that is the fifth retry on any message. In actuallity, the first message is retried 3 times and it is taken off the queue [for real], the second message comes in and on the second retry - pooof - the queue is down.
I though the poison mechanism should work on a per message basis. It there a setting for the queue I missed? Is my only chance for to fix this: re-enable the queue upon BROKER_QUEUE_DISABLED event notification?
Thanks,
Lubomir
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Jul 28, 2005
In the "Example: Detecting a Poison Message" section, it reads: This Transact-SQL example shows a simple, stateless service that includes logic for handling poison messages. Before the stored procedure receives a message, the procedure saves the transaction. When the procedure cannot process a message, the procedure rolls the transaction back to the save point. The partial rollback returns the message to the queue while continuing to hold a lock on the conversation group for the message.
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May 14, 2007
Hallo,
I have some problems to handle the poison messages.
Messages are exchanged between 2 databases on the same SQL Server instance.
I created a Trigger on the insert , that call the sp that begin the conversation(10 minutes Timeout) and send the message to the target queue.
On the target queue I activated a SP and the main code is:
BEGIN TRANSACTION
WAIT FOR (Receive (1) ..) timeout 5000
IF (@ErrorSave <> 0)
BEGIN
INSERT INTO [TestSender].[dbo].[tblErrorXMLMessages] VALUES ();
END
ELSE
if (@messagetypeName = N'Message')
BEGIN
exec [dbo].[sp_ProcessMessage] @message_body
END
ELSE IF (@messagetypeName = N'EndOfStream')
BEGIN
END CONVERSATION @dialog
END
COMMIT TRANSACTION
My communication has a strange behaviour:
if I type
Begin
insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)
insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)
....
insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)
end
Everything work fine but If I write an insert of 1000 message coming from an another table and I use the
cursor login after I while the transmission stop because the Target queue become inactive.
I can see my messages stuck in the Initiator transmission_queue so I think that there is some Poison message that cause 5 rollback and disable the receiver queue.
First I would like to isolate the wrong message and carry on with the insert, my application doesn't have to stop the conversation or return any error, but If I use the Sql server Debugger I'm not able to debug the Target queue's stored procedure.
I suppose that some error happens on the Target queue's stored procedure but how can I first at all find it out?
Maybe it has something to do with the transition wrapped around the RECEIVE command?
thank you for any helps!
Marina B.
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May 11, 2006
I know I have to build in some ability to deal with a posion message. I was thinking that (sort of mentioned in the article http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms166137.aspx) I would write a special stored procedure that would handle this situation. I don't know how I could activate this. I don't want to poll of course in a waitfor.
Does anyone have a good idea on this?
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Oct 11, 2007
Hi!
I have crl stored procedure with distributed transaction in it. I really need such transaction. When a poison message occurs 5 time my queue is turned off.
I've read about handling poison messages in msdn (save transaction and rollback part of it), but it works only with local transaction. What should I do?
An important point is that messages shoold be processed in right order, I can't receive message and put it to the end of queue.
I want to try process poison message constantly.
I doesn't want to stop receiving messages in that queue.
Thanks.
kostya
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Aug 3, 2006
Hi,
I'm using the Service Broker to parallize my processes (I know that the Service Broker was not designed for that purpose), however it's working quite well.
I use the broker procedure to start procedures which all process all a part of the workload. When the procedure fails because of a lock timeout (or for that concern, for whatever reason), I rollback the transaction (which also roll back my message received on the queue so that it can be retried at a later time.). And this is where my problem lies, if there are 5 sequential rollbacks of messages then the poison message detection kicks in and disables the queue, stopping all the processing. :(
Is there a way to disable poison message detection? I have implemented my own stop-mechanism through a counter system on a per sub-task system so if I could disable poison message detection that would be ideal.
If this is not possible is there a way to turn the queue back on automatically so that it will continue processing the messages on the queue?
Cheers,
Peter.
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Oct 2, 2006
I am getting the following Error and I can't find it in the Manual.
Failure to send an event notification instance of type 'BROKER_QUEUE_DISABLED' on conversation handle '{5D273374-E84F-DB11-B3BC-0004239AB15C}'. Error Code = '8429'.
I have checked the service name for the notification and it appears to be okay.
Any ideas would be welcomed,
Gary
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I have written a test harness in SQL to put messages on the inbound queue and then some sql to retrieve the returned code from the outbound queue.
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kind regards,
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SQL StatementSELECT LENGTH_OF_VISIT FROM NOV.MAIN;
Returned Results
30-Apr-2007 02:00:00 AM
30-Apr-2007 01:00:00 AM
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Dear All,
I need to select records between two datetimes.
My Database Structure and sample values are as below
Fromdate ToDate
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Query i used
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My query is not returning values when i am querying between '2007-19-2 10:00' and '2007-19-2 11:00'
Please help
Thanks
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@tripID int,
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@checkNbr varchar(20)
AS
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---- ---- ---- ---- ----
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After sending a message the message is just gone.
Our transmissionand and out our transactionqueue is empty.
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CREATE MESSAGE TYPE HelloWorldMessage
VALIDATION = WELL_FORMED_XML ;
GO
CREATE CONTRACT HelloWorldContract
( HelloWorldMessage SENT BY INITIATOR);
GO
CREATE QUEUE [dbo].[InitiatorQueue] ;
GO
CREATE SERVICE InitiatorService
ON QUEUE [dbo].[InitiatorQueue];
GO
drop endpoint SqlEndpoint
CREATE ENDPOINT SqlEndpoint
STATE = STARTED
AS TCP (LISTENER_PORT = 1235, LISTENER_IP =ALL)
FOR service_broker(AUTHENTICATION = WINDOWS)
GO
use master
GRANT CONNECT ON ENDPOINT:qlEndpoint to public
GO
use test1
DROP ROUTE SqlRoute
GO
CREATE ROUTE SqlRoute
AUTHORIZATION [dbo]
WITH
SERVICE_NAME = 'TargetService',
BROKER_INSTANCE = '80EFDE56-4088-4015-B6C0-D12285C60F66',
ADDRESS = 'TCP://localhost:5900';
GO
GRANT SEND ON SERVICE::[TargetService] to public
create master key
encryption by password = 'azertyuiopqsdfghjklm'
go
SERVER
CREATE MESSAGE TYPE HelloWorldMessage
VALIDATION = WELL_FORMED_XML ;
GO
CREATE CONTRACT HelloWorldContract
( HelloWorldMessage SENT BY INITIATOR);
GO
CREATE QUEUE [dbo].[InitiatorQueue] ;
GO
CREATE SERVICE InitiatorService
ON QUEUE [dbo].[InitiatorQueue];
GO
drop endpoint SqlEndpoint
CREATE ENDPOINT SqlEndpoint
STATE = STARTED
AS TCP (LISTENER_PORT = 1235, LISTENER_IP =ALL)
FOR service_broker(AUTHENTICATION = WINDOWS)
GO
use master
GRANT CONNECT ON ENDPOINT:qlEndpoint to public
GO
use test1
DROP ROUTE SqlRoute
GO
CREATE ROUTE SqlRoute
AUTHORIZATION [dbo]
WITH
SERVICE_NAME = 'TargetService',
BROKER_INSTANCE = '80EFDE56-4088-4015-B6C0-D12285C60F66',
ADDRESS = 'TCP://localhost:5900';
GO
GRANT SEND ON SERVICE::[TargetService] to public
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encryption by password = 'azertyuiopqsdfghjklm'
go
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if i had the following sp...
*******************************************************
create procedure my_insert (param1 int, param2 int, paramx int)
as
...
complicated insert routine
...
return
*******************************************************
and then i wanted to exec this sp in another procedure i would have
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