Poison Message, Distributed Transaction
Oct 11, 2007
Hi!
I have crl stored procedure with distributed transaction in it. I really need such transaction. When a poison message occurs 5 time my queue is turned off.
I've read about handling poison messages in msdn (save transaction and rollback part of it), but it works only with local transaction. What should I do?
An important point is that messages shoold be processed in right order, I can't receive message and put it to the end of queue.
I want to try process poison message constantly.
I doesn't want to stop receiving messages in that queue.
Thanks.
kostya
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Feb 29, 2008
We have a test db, a staging db and a live db. I have a stored procedure that runs fine on test and staging, but throws the following error on live.
The Microsoft Distributed Transaction Coordinator (MS DTC) has cancelled the distributed transaction.
The stored procedure uses linked servers and a transaction.
We're using the following transaction code in the stored procedure
BEGIN
BEGIN TRANSACTION
BEGIN TRY
---
procedure stuff here
---
COMMIT TRANSACTION
END TRY
BEGIN CATCH
DECLARE @ErrorSeverity INT, @ErrorNumber INT, @ErrorMessage NVARCHAR(4000), @ErrorState INT
SET @ErrorSeverity = ERROR_SEVERITY()
SET @ErrorNumber = ERROR_NUMBER()
SET @ErrorMessage = ERROR_MESSAGE()
SET @ErrorState = ERROR_STATE()
IF @ErrorState = 0
SET @ErrorState = 1
RAISERROR ('ERROR OCCURED:%d', @ErrorSeverity, @ErrorState, @ErrorNumber)
IF XACT_STATE() < 0
ROLLBACK TRANSACTION
END CATCH
END
I found the following link which seems to be the problem we're experiencinghttp://support.microsoft.com/kb/937517
The link includes a workaround which is the following:
"To prevent the SQLNCLI provider from sending an attention signal to the server, use the SQLNCLI provider to consume fully any rowsets that the OLE DB consumer creates. "
How do I use the SQLNCLI provider to fully consume any rowsets?
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May 14, 2007
Hallo,
I have some problems to handle the poison messages.
Messages are exchanged between 2 databases on the same SQL Server instance.
I created a Trigger on the insert , that call the sp that begin the conversation(10 minutes Timeout) and send the message to the target queue.
On the target queue I activated a SP and the main code is:
BEGIN TRANSACTION
WAIT FOR (Receive (1) ..) timeout 5000
IF (@ErrorSave <> 0)
BEGIN
INSERT INTO [TestSender].[dbo].[tblErrorXMLMessages] VALUES ();
END
ELSE
if (@messagetypeName = N'Message')
BEGIN
exec [dbo].[sp_ProcessMessage] @message_body
END
ELSE IF (@messagetypeName = N'EndOfStream')
BEGIN
END CONVERSATION @dialog
END
COMMIT TRANSACTION
My communication has a strange behaviour:
if I type
Begin
insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)
insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)
....
insert into TriggerTable values(XMLMessage)
end
Everything work fine but If I write an insert of 1000 message coming from an another table and I use the
cursor login after I while the transmission stop because the Target queue become inactive.
I can see my messages stuck in the Initiator transmission_queue so I think that there is some Poison message that cause 5 rollback and disable the receiver queue.
First I would like to isolate the wrong message and carry on with the insert, my application doesn't have to stop the conversation or return any error, but If I use the Sql server Debugger I'm not able to debug the Target queue's stored procedure.
I suppose that some error happens on the Target queue's stored procedure but how can I first at all find it out?
Maybe it has something to do with the transition wrapped around the RECEIVE command?
thank you for any helps!
Marina B.
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May 11, 2006
I know I have to build in some ability to deal with a posion message. I was thinking that (sort of mentioned in the article http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms166137.aspx) I would write a special stored procedure that would handle this situation. I don't know how I could activate this. I don't want to poll of course in a waitfor.
Does anyone have a good idea on this?
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Aug 3, 2006
Hi,
I'm using the Service Broker to parallize my processes (I know that the Service Broker was not designed for that purpose), however it's working quite well.
I use the broker procedure to start procedures which all process all a part of the workload. When the procedure fails because of a lock timeout (or for that concern, for whatever reason), I rollback the transaction (which also roll back my message received on the queue so that it can be retried at a later time.). And this is where my problem lies, if there are 5 sequential rollbacks of messages then the poison message detection kicks in and disables the queue, stopping all the processing. :(
Is there a way to disable poison message detection? I have implemented my own stop-mechanism through a counter system on a per sub-task system so if I could disable poison message detection that would be ideal.
If this is not possible is there a way to turn the queue back on automatically so that it will continue processing the messages on the queue?
Cheers,
Peter.
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Oct 2, 2006
I am getting the following Error and I can't find it in the Manual.
Failure to send an event notification instance of type 'BROKER_QUEUE_DISABLED' on conversation handle '{5D273374-E84F-DB11-B3BC-0004239AB15C}'. Error Code = '8429'.
I have checked the service name for the notification and it appears to be okay.
Any ideas would be welcomed,
Gary
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Aug 1, 2007
Hi all, i searched everywhere but couldn't find any info on the following error that i'm currently receiving:
"The conversation endpoint is not in a valid state for SEND. The current endpoint state is 'DI'."
I understand that this is due to some problem in my send/receive protocol but how do i fix this problem so that i can continue with my testing? Right now i'm forced to drop my entire test database and reinstall everytime this message shows up because i can't send/receive any messages at that point. Is there anyway to get rid of it?
Thanks in advance. This is driving me nuts.
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May 31, 2008
Hi All
I'm getting this when executing the code below. Going from W2K/SQL2k SP4 to XP/SQL2k SP4 over a dial-up link.
If I take away the begin tran and commit it works, but of course, if one statement fails I want a rollback. I'm executing this from a Delphi app, but I get the same from Qry Analyser.
I've tried both with and without the Set XACT . . ., and also tried with Set Implicit_Transactions off.
set XACT_ABORT ON
Begin distributed Tran
update OPENDATASOURCE('SQLOLEDB','Data Source=10.10.10.171;User ID=*****;Password=****').TRANSFERSTN.TSADMIN.TRANSACTIONMAIN
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update TSADMIN.TRANSACTIONMAIN
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1 and DONE = 1
update OPENDATASOURCE('SQLOLEDB','Data Source=10.10.10.171;User ID=*****;Password=****').TRANSFERSTN.TSADMIN.WBENTRY
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update TSADMIN.WBENTRY
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update OPENDATASOURCE('SQLOLEDB','Data Source=10.10.10.171;User ID=*****;Password=****').TRANSFERSTN.TSADMIN.FIXED
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update TSADMIN.FIXED
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update OPENDATASOURCE('SQLOLEDB','Data Source=10.10.10.171;User ID=*****;Password=****').TRANSFERSTN.TSADMIN.ALTCHARGE
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update TSADMIN.ALTCHARGE
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update OPENDATASOURCE('SQLOLEDB','Data Source=10.10.10.171;User ID=*****;Password=****').TRANSFERSTN.TSADMIN.TSAUDIT
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
update TSADMIN.TSAUDIT
set REPFLAG = 0 where REPFLAG = 1
COMMIT TRAN
It's got me stumped, so any ideas gratefully received.Thx
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Feb 22, 2007
I have a design a SSIS Package for ETL Process. In my package i have to read the data from the tables and then insert into the another table of same structure.
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I have increase and decrease the time to catch the error but it is still there i have tried to set 0 for commandout Properties.
if i'm using the 0 for commandtime out then i'm getting the Distributed transaction completed. Either enlist this session in a new transaction or the NULL transaction.
and
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Feb 6, 2007
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System.Data.OleDb.OleDbException: Distributed transaction completed. Either
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Distributed transaction completed. Either enlist this session in a new transaction or the NULL transaction.
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Jan 8, 2008
Hi,
i am getting this error "Distributed transaction completed. Either enlist this session in a new transaction or the NULL transaction.".
my transations have been done using LINKED SERVER. when i manually call the store procedure from Server 1 it works but when i call it through Service broker it dosen't work and gives me this error.
Thanks in advance.
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Here is the full message from the Event Log.
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Aug 14, 2007
Hi,
I am using distributed transactions where in I start a TransactionScope in BLL and receive data from service broker queue in DAL, perform various actions in BLL and DAL and if everything is ok call TransactionScope.Commit().
I have a problem where in if i run multiple instances of the same app ( each app creates one thread ), the threads pop out the same message and I get a deadlock upon commit.
My dequeue SP is as follows:
CREATE PROC [dbo].[queue_dequeue]
@entryId int OUTPUT
AS
BEGIN
DECLARE @conversationHandle UNIQUEIDENTIFIER;
DECLARE @messageTypeName SYSNAME;
DECLARE @conversationGroupId UNIQUEIDENTIFIER;
GET CONVERSATION GROUP @conversationGroupId FROM ProcessingQueue;
if (@conversationGroupId is not null)
BEGIN
RECEIVE TOP(1) @entryId = CONVERT(INT, [message_body]), @conversationHandle = [conversation_handle], @messageTypeName = [message_type_name] FROM ProcessingQueue WHERE conversation_group_id=@conversationGroupId
END
if @messageTypeName in
(
'http://schemas.microsoft.com/SQL/ServiceBroker/EndDialog',
'http://schemas.microsoft.com/SQL/ServiceBroker/Error'
)
begin
end conversation @conversationHandle;
end
END
Can anyone explain to me why the threads are able to pop the same message ? I thought service broker made sure this cannot happen?
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Hi all,
I am trying to merge data of 2 tables on different servers with an insert statement.
INSERT INTO SERVER1.db.owner.table
select s2.* from SERVER2.db.owner.table as s2
LEFT JOIN SERVER1.db.owner.table as s1
ON s1.key=s2.key
where s1.key is null
I got this error.
The operation could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'SQLOLEDB' was unable to begin a distributed transaction.
[OLE/DB provider returned message: New transaction cannot enlist in the specified transaction coordinator. ]
OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB Provider 'SQLOLEDB' ITransactionJoin::JoinTransaction returned 0x8004d00a].
while the select query is giving the result.
I have done simmilar inserts on some other tables which worked fine
I have created sp_addlinkedserver.
and DTC set on both servers.
any help will be greatly appreciated
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Dec 27, 2004
Hi All,
I am trying to use distributed transaction (using linked Server).
But getting the folloing error..
Some one please help...
following is the error...
The operation could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'MSDASQL' was unable to begin a distributed transaction.
[OLE/DB provider returned message: [Microsoft][ODBC SQL Server Driver][SQL Server]Transaction context in use by another session.]
OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB Provider 'MSDASQL' ITransactionJoin::JoinTransaction returned 0x8004d00a].
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Jul 11, 2006
Hi again,
I do not know when to use Distributed Transaction.
Would you please give an example about its usage or give a tutorials about this ?
Thanks
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Hi:
When I tried to run a remote proc (with one parameter of date to return a set of records (no problem in return records) and to insert to the local database table A, with following errors:
Server: Msg 7391, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
The operation could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'SQLOLEDB' was unable to begin a distributed transaction.
[OLE/DB provider returned message: New transaction cannot enlist in the specified transaction coordinator. ]
OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB Provider 'SQLOLEDB' ITransactionJoin::JoinTransaction returned 0x8004d00a].
SET XACT_ABORT ON
BEGIN DISTRIBUTED TRAN
insert tblA(column1, column2, column3)
exec [remoteServerB].DBX.dbo.usp_XYZ '03/28/2006 '
COMMIT TRAN
Both remote SQL and Local SQL are SQL2000 with sp4 and both Distributed Transaction Coordinator are on.
Any idea? :rolleyes:
thanks
David
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Jun 11, 2002
Hello,
I've got stuck trying to run distributed transaction on same machine with two SQL instances. ()
Running transaction from Query Analizer With SET XACT_ABORT ON it works fine.
(Without that - it throws an error about unable to begin nested distributed transaction).
But from Application (C++, ODBC) it waits for a while and throus an error: 'unable to begin distributed transaction' even SET XACT_ABORT ON is applied before issuing transaction in Stored Procedure.
What's happening here ?
Thanks in advance.
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May 10, 2006
I’m attempting to insert the result set from a remote query into a local table and I’m getting the following error:
Msg 8501, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
MSDTC on server 'REMOTESVR' is unavailable.
OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB Provider 'SQLOLEDB' ITransactionJoin::JoinTransaction returned 0x8004d01c].
Msg 7391, Level 16, State 1, Line 1
The operation could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'SQLOLEDB' was unable to begin a distributed transaction.
MSDTC is running on both servers. Has anyone ever seen this or have any insight into the cause?
The code that I’m trying to run is:
create table msver
(
[Index] int,
[Name] varchar(30),
Internal_Value varchar(20),
Character_Value varchar(512)
)
insert into msver
exec ('exec [REMOTESVR].master.dbo.xp_msver')
Note that the remote query works fine.
Thanks!
Eric
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Mar 9, 2004
Hi, I have configured a linked server, and i have a procedure which makes an UPDATE in a local table using the data in the linked server.
Specifically, I have a function which checks if a given code exists in a linked server's table. The UPDATE changes the value of a column in a local table, if the function returns 1.
I've run the procedure and it gave an error after a few hours cause a simple conversion error inside the function. I solved the error. After this, the procedure did not work more. It gives me the following message:
Server: Msg 7391, Level 16, State 1, Procedure EXISTEONC, Line 16
The operation could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'MSDASQL'
was unable to begin a distributed transaction.
(EXISTEONC is the function, and in the line 16 there is an OPENQUERY)
Im sure MSDTC is working... i'm lost because i dont know why it worked the first time and not now. Ive also wrote the function again as it was before, but it still doesent works.
Thanks a lot...
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Jan 13, 2014
I was getting this error message from our Cold Fusion application front end when it was trying to execute one of our stored procedures.The operation could not be performed because OLE DB provider "SQLNCLI10" for linked server "SERVERNAME" was unable to begin a distributed transaction.
I was a bit puzzled by this because we don't use distributed transactions (at least I don't specifically code them). I did some research online and I found out how to modify the DTC component on the server to have the proper configurations.Then, when trying again we got this error message:
Unable to start a nested transaction for OLE DB provider "SQLNCLI10" for linked server "SERVERNAME". A nested transaction was required because the XACT_ABORT option was set to OFF.
So, I was able to resolve that as well by changing that option in the stored procedure...Now, there are 3 stored procedures - One does inserts; one does updates; and one does deletes.The actions are being done to a view in a database on another server. The view definition uses a linked server.
The error was/is only happening on the INSERT stored procedure. So, I'm a little baffled as to why it only bombs on the insert stored procedure and not the others. They are all coded in the same fashion..Do distributed transactions work differently if its an insert vs. update or delete? Why is it all of the sudden treating these as distributed transactions when they aren't coded as such?
The code is very simple and looks just like this:
INSERT vw_Name
SELECT bla, bla2, bla3
FROM local table
WHERE bla bla
And again vw_Name would be a table on another server that we have via Linked Server. It is also a SQL Server (but its SQL 2000).
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Aug 29, 2006
I'm having problems with distributed transactions. I know this has been descussed a lot before, but i haven't been able to solve my problems anyway.
So, what do I try to do? I try to recieve data from one server (source) to a destination server with an integration services package using a transaction. The source server is a Windows 2003 server running SQL 2000. The destination server is a SQL 2005 Cluster on Windows 2003 Server. Both machines has MSDTC running and allowing both inbound and outbound transactions. I have run DTCPing and DTCTester successfully in both directions.
A bit simplified, my SSIS package looks like this.
Execute SQL Task (Delete old data on the destination server)
Data Flow Task
Get data from source using an OLE DB Source
Write data to destination using an OLE DB Destination
This works just fine if I in my topmost container set TransactionOption to supported, but if I change it into Required, my package fails with the error message:
Error: The SSIS Runtime has failed to start the distributed transaction due to error 0x8004D01B "The Transaction Manager is not available.". The DTC transaction failed to start. This could occur because the MSDTC Service is not running.
Could the fact that the destination is a cluster be a prolem here? I'm pretty sure I have successfully done operations like this in other environments, but without clusters involved.
Oh, one last thing. No firewall what so ever is runnig on or between the servers.
regards Andreas
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May 15, 2008
Hello, I've a problem with a software developed in C# with the framework 2.0. This is the error I receive : The operation could not be performed because OLE DB provider "SQLNCLI" for linked server "XXX_LINKED_SERVER" was unable to begin a distributed transaction. OLE DB provider "SQLNCLI" for linked server "XXX_LINKED_SERVER" returned message "No transaction is active.". If I try directly to restart the process, it works fine. Is there someone who can help me ? This is the process 1. In C# --> Call of a Query : select from the linked server (db in sql 2005) and insert into a table SQL 2005 2. In the C# --> using (TransactionScope scope = new TransactionScope()) and insert in a table in SQL 2005 which is link server Thank in advance.
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Jun 20, 2008
I have this code
DECLARE @tempTableName VarChar(50)SET @tempTableName = NEWID()
CREATE TABLE #@tempTableName( State Char(2), Billed Money, AslCode VarChar(10))INSERT INTO #@tempTableName EXEC GetRecords '2/1/2008'
which gives me this error when I run
The operation could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'SQLOLEDB' was unable to begin a distributed transaction.[OLE/DB provider returned message: New transaction cannot enlist in the specified transaction coordinator. ]OLE DB error trace [OLE/DB Provider 'SQLOLEDB' ITransactionJoin::JoinTransaction returned 0x8004d00a].
GetRecords does a select * from a linked server's table. Which is working fine but if I try to do an insert (into temp table) then I get the error.
Any help?
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Jul 17, 2005
-- I made local procedure:
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Jan 7, 2002
Hi,
There was a distributed trasaction set up and functioning fine, But gave the following error recently.
The operation could not be performed because the OLE DB provider 'SQLOLEDB' does not support distributed transactions
[OLE/DB provider returned message: Distributed transaction error]
Could anyone please help why is this error and how can be rectified.
Thanks in advance
John Jayaseelan
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