Problems With Replicating Large Batch Inserts
Nov 14, 2006
I have transactional replication set up between 2 SQL Server 2005 databases on 2 different boxes. Both the log reader and distribution agent run in continuous mode. The distributor is residing on a third SQL Server box. We are having performance issues with replication when there are large batch deletes/inserts happening on the publisher. There is a batch job that runs for about 8-10 hours everyday on the publisher and deletes/inserts thousands of records as part of transactions. The amount of time to replicate all this data on the subscriber is around 13-15 hours which is not acceptable to our user community. While monitoring I found that the distribution database (MSRepl_commands table) at times has millions of records in it which would explain why the latency is so high. Add to it the fact that there are large transactions occuring on the publisher.
I was wondering if anyone has faced similar problem before. Are there any conifguration changes I can make to the replication infrastructure to reduce latency?
Would appreciate your help.
Thanks.
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Jun 24, 2005
Please help guys,I have a DataTable filled from the parsing of a csv file by the OleDb text driver.This DataTable could on occassion contain in excess of 2000 rows.I want to be able to batch the inserts to my backend sql table and be able to recorver on errors during the insert.i.e, maybe send the first 500 rows to insert via an insert dynamic text.... really don't know the optimal insert technic to use.but, if I get an error on say the third batch, I want to be able to recorver, and not have to start all over again and continue the inserts from the batch that failed.....Please help... what is the best way to perform the inserts and how can I track these inserts and recorver on errors like power failures or sql server unavailable etc.Please help....
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I have a table with 370 million rows and 50+ columns. I need to change the data type of a column from character to numeric. Here's what it contains:
40 million with numbers I want to keep, the rest I just want to set to null:
4k with alpha characters
55 million other numbers
275 million empty strings
An alter column statement fails not just on the alpha characters but on the empty strings. So I tried a couple things on a test database to get an idea of the time it would take:
An update statement to clear out the non-numeric data is too slow (~1.5 days, batched 10000 at a time). I think I probably should create a new column anyway though, so I'm going to copy the data to a new table since it would be faster than adding a new column to the original table.
An insert ... select ... takes about 12 hours; adding WITH (TABLOCK) didn't seem to have any effect, and I'm not sure how to batch it. Recovery model is simple.
A select ... into ... only takes about 1 hour, but can't be batched.
Using a 3rd party ETL tool takes about 5 hours, batched.
I wanted to batch it to minimize impact on other queries but primarily the logs. Is there any way to do a fast batched bulk transfer within SSMS?
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I noticed that when we insert into the table an exclusive lock on the table is obtained. Do inserts into tables with identities always lock the table?
Given the table size is unavoidable, does anyone have a suggestion to improve the performance?
Thanks,
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So I am trying to do the delete in batches. More specifically I want to load a temporary table with a million rows, then use the temporary table to load a sub temporary table with 100,000 rows and join this temporary table to the table I want to delete from looping through 10 times to get 1 million. The Logging.EvenLog table which is the table I'm trying to purge has a clustered index on EventDate (ASC). I would like to run this in a schedule job with enough time between executions for log backups to run.
DECLARE @i int
DECLARE @RowCount int
DECLARE @NextBatchDate datetime
CREATE TABLE #BatchProcess
(
EventDate datetime,
ApplicationID int,
[Code] .....
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Oct 16, 2015
In another forum post, a poster was deleting large numbers of rows from a table in batches of 50,000.
In the bad old days ('80s - '90s), I used to have to delete rows in batches of 500, then 1000, then 5000, due to the size of the transaction rollback segments (yes - Oracle).
I always found that increasing the number of deleted rows in a single statement/transaction improved overall process speed - up to some magic point, at which some overhead in the system began slowing the deletes down, so that deleting a single batch of 10,000 rows took more than twice as much time as deleting two batches of 5,000 rows each.
good rule-of-thumb numbers (or even better, some actual statistics and/or explanations) as to how many records should be deleted in a single transaction/statement for optimum speed? 50,000 - 100,000 - 1,000,000 or unlimited? Are there significant differences between 2008, 2012, 2014?
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Hi gang,
I'm 99% sure this is possible, but I wanted to confirm before I go upgrading one box in our replication scheme without having to do all the others (which are geographically dispersed):
Can an SP2 box replicate (merge replication in our case) with pre-SP2 servers? Most of our servers don't even have SP1 applied, and we're ready to upgrade, but I want to be sure I can do them one at a time rather than all at once.
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The reason for this is because when the DBA decides to change the user permission, i want the info to be merge replicated to the subscriber. At this moment i can run the DTS to transfer the login but it won't know when the logins have been updated and hence i won't know when to run it.
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Hi,
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I read that mirroring might not work as it is solely for back up /fall over purposes and that data on the mirrored server would not be accessible.
I have also been looking at SSIS but at the moment this is all a bit like double dutch to me ! Can anyone point me in the right direction, preferably somewhere beginner friendly ie not overly complicated !!
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I add subscribers.
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If I have to add or remove a merge article as part of a database change I specify the @force_invalidate_snapshot=1, @force_reinit_subscription=1. No any ALTER TABLE statements following the article change will NOT be replicated.
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Hi,
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Hi,
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I want to replicate to an archive database. This means that the subscriber will have data that has been removed from the publisher. In my reading, I haven't seen any discussion of this specific scenario.
Here's what I imagine the solution might be:
EXEC sp_addpublication_snapshot
@publication = N'My_Publication',
@frequency_type = 1 -- only create the snapshot once
GO
...
EXEC sp_addarticle
@publication = N'My_Publication',
@article = N'My_Table',
@source_owner = N'dbo',
@source_object = N'My_Table',
@del_cmd = 'NONE',
GO
I set the publication snapshot to only execute once, that would be during the maintenance window when it is initially installed. Then, on the tables that will contain archived data, I specify that deletes aren't replicated.
Here's my concern: aren't there times when you need to resync?
If you could push a new snapshot that dropped the tables on the subscriber and built the thing up from scratch, then things would sync-up just fine. But in this scenario if you drop the subscriber tables then you've just lost your archive.
What's the best way to handle this?
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