Query Optimizer Problems With Many LEFT/RIGHT OUTER JOINs

Mar 14, 2008

I am having an issue with large queries using Microsoft SQL Server 2005 - 9.00.2221.00 (X64).

I have a query with many INNER/LEFT OUTER/RIGHT OUTER joins which is taking very very very long to run. This looks exactly like this problem described in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/318530. However, this doc says it was fixed in SP1, which is already installed.


Basically I have a query:

SELECT ....
FROM TABLEA

INNER JOIN TABLEB ...
LEFT OUTER TABLEC...
LEFT OUTER TABLED...
RIGHT OUTER TABLEF...
LEFT OUTER TABLEJ..
LEFT OUTER TABLEH...
LEFT OUTER TABLEI...
RIGHT OUTER TABLEK...
LEFT OUTER TABLEM..
... 17 joined tables in all......
WHERE TABLEB.field1 = 'abc'


The query plan for this is using TABLEA as the "main" table and joining everything else to it. The problem is, TABLEA has 117 MILLION records. TABLEB has 10,000 records which match the WHERE. I stopped this query after it ran for 62 HOURS.

If I simply change the query to:

SELECT ....
FROM TABLEB

INNER JOIN TABLEA ...
LEFT OUTER TABLEC...
LEFT OUTER TABLED...
RIGHT OUTER TABLEF...
LEFT OUTER TABLEJ..
LEFT OUTER TABLEH...
LEFT OUTER TABLEI...
RIGHT OUTER TABLEK...
LEFT OUTER TABLEM..
... 17 joined tables in all......
WHERE TABLEB.field1 = 'abc'

The query runs in 15 mins. The query plan now uses TABLEB and the WHERE clause to join all the other tables.

The problem is, this query is generated from a report writter, and I have no control over the way it creates the SQL code.

Any ideas how I can fix this?

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Hi,

First of all, is this an appropriate place to get answers related to SQL CE? If not, do you have any recomended forums elsewhere?

I'm trying to get a list of various related tables using ResultSets on SQLCE 3. The query is something like this:

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em System.Data.SqlServerCe.SqlCeCommand.ProcessResult s()
em System.Data.SqlServerCe.SqlCeCommand.CompileQueryP lan()
em System.Data.SqlServerCe.SqlCeCommand.ExecuteComman d()
em System.Data.SqlServerCe.SqlCeCommand.ExecuteResult Set()

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