Record Length Issue
Aug 23, 2007
I am having issues with exporting a file from a table. The data is correct however the Record Length for our
mainframe is 100 and the file I am sending is 23036. Any help would be appreciated
Mainframe Specifications
Record Format:FB
Record Length:100
Block Size:27900
My SSIS package Export File
Record Format:VB
Record Length:23036
Block Size:27998
Table that is exported (Details)
RMSTRANDTEvarchar(8)
RMSTRANTIMchar(4)
RMSACCTNUMchar(20)
RMSTRANCDEchar(2)
FIELDchar(6)
HSTNEWVALUchar(40)
INTEXTCODEchar(1)
AGENCYchar(4)
PLATFORMchar(4)
REGIONchar(4)
PRODUCTchar(4)
FILLERchar(3)
---All Precision Set to Blank
---All Scale set to Blank
SSIS Packages Specifications:
Flat File Destination
Code Page:1252
Locale:English
Format:Fixed Width
Row Delimiter:{CR}{LF}
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Apr 26, 2001
Hi folks,
I'm trying to load a flat file (text) into a table with 83 columns in it. The record length on the flat file is 251 characters long. For some reason when running the DTS import utility, DTS can't read the past the 142 character on the flat file, it spills on to the next line. The red bar is set on the 143 character when i use the fix field options in DTS import. Can the red bar be moved out further? Or is there a max field length using DTS?
anyone out there that can help?
Joe
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Hi,
Does any one know how to find a record (row) length of a table?
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We are converting an old (circa 2000) VB app that used an Access database to a C#/SQL Server 2005 database. One of the key business processes in this app was to import large quantities of data (200K+ at a time). The format of the text file is fixed length and while we would love to change it we are unable to (the user community would burn us in effigee if not for real). I have been looking at DTS, BCP, and Bulk Insert using format files and, while I think we can get most of the way there I am not sure if I am understanding the format file structure completly. Below is the import specification for one of our files:
FieldName DataType Start Length
AFIID C 1 5
LOCID C 7 15
LOGDATE C 23 11
LOGTIME C 35 4
LOGCODE C 40 4
HEADDIR C 45 3
SLUGVOL C 49 7
UNITS C 57 10
As you can see the each column is separated by a single space so that the second column starts two beyond the length of the first column, etc, etc. Here is an example of the data (the numbers in the first two rows are there to assist counting characters and do not exist in the real import file)
1 2 3 4 5 6
1234567890123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345678901234567
AFP29 01-SB-01 10-AUG-2000 0900 ABB DRW 9999.99 CFS
AFP29 01-SB-01 10-AUG-2000 0900 ABB DRW 9999.99 CFS
AFP29 01-SB-02 30-DEC-2000 0900 ABB DRW 9999.99 CFS
AFP29 XX-XX 10-AUG-2000 1000 ABB DRW 123.23 CFS
C123 01-SB-01 10-AUG-2000 0900 ABB DRW 9999.99 CFS
AFP29 10-AUG-2000 0900 ABB DRW 9999.99 CFS
AFP29 01-SB-01 0900 ABB DRW 9999.99 CFS
AFP29 01-SB-01 SDKJFDKL 0900 ABB DRW 9999.99 CFS
AFP29 01-SB-01 10-AUG-2000 ABB DRW 9999.99 CFS
AFP29 01-SB-01 10-AUG-2000 900 ABB DRW 9999.99 CFS
AFP29 01-SB-01 10-AUG-2000 0900 ABB DRW DFDSF CFS
AFP29 01-SB-01 10-AUG-2000 0900 ABB DRW 9999.99 CFS
From what I have read about the structure of format files you start with the host file field order number, then the host file data type, then prefix length, then field length, then field terminator, then database column order, then database column name, and final the collation.
This looks like it would work great for delimeted files but in my case there are no delimiters. If I don't include a terminator ("") would the following format file spec import my data correctly?
9.0
8
1 SQLCHAR 0 5 "" 1 AFIID ""
2 SQLCHAR 0 15 "" 2 LOCID ""
3 SQLCHAR 0 11 "" 3 LOGDATE ""
4 SQLCHAR 0 4 "" 4 LOGTIME ""
5 SQLCHAR 0 4 "" 5 LOGCODE ""
6 SQLCHAR 0 3 "" 6 HEADDIR ""
7 SQLCHAR 0 7 "" 7 SLUGVOL ""
8 SQLCHAR 0 10 "
" 8 UNITS ""
Thanks,
Richard Anderson
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is there any way or a tool to identify if in procedure the Parameter length was declarated less than table Column length ..
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CREATE PROCEDURE SpFindNames ( @KeyName VARCHAR(40) )
AS
BEGIN
SELECT KeyName FROM TEST001
WHERE KeyName = @KeyName
END
KeyName = @KeyName
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Dim paramBlob as Byte()
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The second parameter of the .GetBlobData function takes an INTEGER as its count! Therefore, no matter what kind of datatype I pass to the string that the script will later split, it will be limited to 32767 characters.
THIS IS A PROBLEM!!!
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Next
Next
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AS
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SELECT FieldName, AcctNumber, Screen, CaseNumber, BKYChapter, FileDate, DispositionCode, BKUDA1, RMSADD2, RMSCHPNAME_1, RMSADDR_1,
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FROM EBN_TEMP1
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BEGIN
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Insert Record
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