Referential Integrity In Mutiple Tables. Need Help.
Oct 12, 2004
I have a lookup table called States, I have multiple other tables that use this lookup table, but I can only relate to one other table. My question is if I change a state name how do I enforce that change to the other tables that CANT be related? I know it is a design flaw and need some kind of joining table. I am having difficulty understanding and incorporating first normal form in my database. Here is what i have so far.
Example:
Table 1
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CustomerID BillingAddressID ShippingAddressID OtherFields
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Table 2
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BillingAddressID StateID OtherFields
===========|======|========|
Table 3
=============|======|========|
ShippingAddressID StateID OtherFields
=============|======|========|
Table 4
======|====|
StateID Name
======|====|
How do I relate table 4 with table 2 & 3 for referential integrity? Or create a joiner table?
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Mar 3, 2006
I have transaction table where the rows entered into the transactioncan come a result of changes that take place if four different tables.So the situation is as follows:Transaction Table-TranId-Calc AmountTable 1 (the amount is inserted into the transaction table)- Tb1Id- Tb1AmtTable 2 (an amount is calculated based on the percentage and insertedinto the transaction table)-Tbl2Id-Tb2PercentageTable 3 (the amount is inserted into the transaction table)-Tbl3Id-Tbl3AmutTable 4 (an amount is calculated based on the percentage and insertedinto the transaction table. )-Tbl2Id-Tb2PercentageHow do I create referential integrity between the Transaction table andthe rest of the tables. When I make changes to the values in Table 1 -4, I need to be able to reflect this in the Transaction table.Thanks.
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Mar 16, 2007
Using the new referential integrity constraints that will be made available, will it allow us to manually define the relationships between entities even if there is no true foreign key constraints setup in the database?
Lets say we deleted the FK_Orders_Customers in Northwind between orders and customers.
Or is this ability available now?
Thank for your time.
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Aug 11, 2001
Question:
What is used to enforce referential integrity ?
Answer: Triggers; Foriegn Keys.
what is Foreign Keys ?
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Oct 17, 2001
How do you enforce referential integrity in SQL between tables?
Thanks.
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Feb 26, 2008
I used to work with little databases and throw everything into a table with no relation, and modify them all individually. Now I've learned about referential integrity, makes things a lot easier.
My question is, now what? Say I have a Customers table and an Orders table (to keep it simple). If custID is the primary key in customers, foreign key in orders, then if I want to insert into Orders, I need the custID. So those kinds of things I need to keep stored in a session state and insert them like that, correct?
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Oct 26, 2004
Hi guys,
Is there a way of finding the foreign keys for a table and therefore determine weather any referential integrity rules would be broken if a record was deleted?
For example. You have an author you want to delete, but that author has books. You call a procedure to delete the author. The stored procedure checks the foriegn keys, checks the tables and determines what is in them and if any tables have records that would be "orphaned" you return an error reporting what tables have the "would be orphaned" data in them.
It need to be fairly generic int he manner that it checks the foreign keys and the sub table data.
This is on behalf of a guy at work so "requirements" may change. ;)
Anyone got some ideas??
Cheers,
Shaun
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Feb 1, 2008
hi guys,
i was asked to drop some tables...but before dropping i was asked to check for referential integrity..
so where and how can i check this referential integrity????
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Dec 23, 2005
Hihow to set the referential integrity between 2 tables using enterprisemanager (microsoft SQL SERVER).. i tried and the tab doesn't allow meto choose. pls.help.thankssree--chavasreedharMessage posted via http://www.exforsys.com for all your training needs.
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Nov 10, 1998
I'm not sure about the way you enforce the referential integrity in a SQL server 6.5 database (I'm new to this environment). Does any one have an exemple. The doc I have is useless...Thanks
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Apr 21, 2008
What ate the method/techniques i can use for enforcing referential integrity, Without using foreign key constraints ?
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Jun 3, 2006
I'm using Microsoft SQL Server Management Studio Express 9.00.2047.00and expriencing problems with setting referential integrity on a linktable. The tables' schema is as follows:-------------------------------------------------------------------CREATE TABLE competencies (CID bigint identity(1,1) CONSTRAINT pk_CID PRIMARY KEY,LockedBy bigint DEFAULT 0 NOT NULLCONSTRAINT fk_UserIDREFERENCES usr_info(userID)ON DELETE SET DEFAULTON UPDATE CASCADE)---------------------------------------------------------CREATE TABLE usr_info (userID bigint IDENTITY(0,1) CONSTRAINT pk_UID PRIMARY KEY,ActiveFlag bit default 0 NOT NULL, --(1='Yes', 0='No')FirstName varchar(100) default '' NOT NULL,LastName varchar(100) default '' NOT NULL)-------------------------------------------------------CREATE TABLE competency_hdr (fkCID bigint default 0 NOT NULLCONSTRAINT fkCID_chREFERENCES competencies(CID)ON DELETE CASCADEON UPDATE CASCADE,ApprovedBy bigint default 0 NOT NULLCONSTRAINT fkUserID_chREFERENCES usr_info(userID)ON DELETE SET DEFAULT -- NO delete if user is deletedON UPDATE CASCADE)--------------------------------------------------------When I execute the above I get the following error message.Msg 1785, Level 16, State 0, Line 1Introducing FOREIGN KEY constraint 'fkUserID_ch' on table'competency_hdr' may cause cycles or multiple cascade paths. SpecifyON DELETE NO ACTION or ON UPDATE NO ACTION, or modify other FOREIGNKEY constraints.Msg 1750, Level 16, State 0, Line 1Could not create constraint. See previous errors.Now, if i swap the fields around then the error message changes tothat of the fkCID field.Basically what I want is:when I delete a competency record I need all references to this recordto be deleted.when I delete a user I want to set the foreign key to zero (the recordmust remain on the database).Obviously there is something I'm missing here. Any advice, anyone?---------------------------------------------------------------Join Bytes! : Remove your pants to reply---------------------------------------------------------------
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Aug 11, 2000
How I do, in SQL SERVER 7.0, referential integrity (Foreign Key constraints) between tables storaged in differents databases?.
Thank for any help.
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Oct 4, 2000
Hi,
I need to write a referential integrity trigger. I have two tables called Table1 and Table2. In both the tables i have common column called FieldA.
Now i need to write a trigger, whenever i updates Table1 this trigger automatically needs to update a FieldA in Table2.
Can anyone give me Code or suggestions , how to write this trigger. I am new to triggers.
Thank you!
---Ram
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Oct 4, 2000
Hi,
I need to write a referential integrity trigger. I have two tables called Table1 and Table2. In both the tables i have common column called FieldA.
Now i need to write a trigger, whenever i updates Table1 this trigger automatically needs to update a FieldA in Table2.
Can anyone give me Code or suggestions , how to write this trigger. I am new to triggers.
Thank you!
I know how to write a normal insert , update, delete triggers and using help from books online.. SO pls do it in useful.
---Ram
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Oct 4, 2004
Hi All,
I am inserting into a table that hold several foreign keys from several tables.
I'm performing this via a client (VB) and I only how to capture the error, but unable to determine which column/field is the one that violates referential integrity.
Any one can shed some light here? Many thanks!
Cyherus
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Dec 7, 2006
hi there!
im having problems deleting rows in a reference table. is there any tools which tables to delete first before deleting the rows in the table which contains the primary key?
i have a lot of tables let say over 300 so its hard for me to guess which comes first... what should i keep in mind deleting rows with a referential integrity?
thank...
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Aug 24, 2006
Two ways to do this... Creating the constraints when creating the data model OR using SQL to use the 'reference' constraint. Does 2005 provide any other automated method of creating the Primary Key - to Foreign key constraints without writing the SQL to do this?
Thx
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Nov 19, 2007
Hello Everyone.
I'm trying to set a procedural referential integrity on a table, files, which references to table users (a file is created by a user but one user can have more than one file).
Here, given that I can't create a referential integrity ON DELETE SET NULL (the reason il long to explain so just don't care about it), I would like to emulate the RI with a trigger.
On deleting a user the files associated to him have their IDUser set to null.
I have a problem, this is the trigger:
CREATE TRIGGER PRI_FilesOnUsers
ON Files
INSTEAD OF DELETE
AS
-- When a user is deleted the files must have no user associated, set IDUser to null
UPDATE Files
SET IDUser = NULL
WHERE IDUser = ?????????????????????????????????????????????????????
GO
WELL what do I heve to put there, how can i retrieve the values of the fields of the record that the user tried to delete?????Help me thanks
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Jul 7, 2007
Hi,
How could I define referential integrity using FK constraint which allow me to have empty string/ZERO number instead of NULL value ?
Thank you
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Apr 12, 2007
I'm designing a database to store information about jobs that are in progress at a property. More than one job can be in progress at a property at one time and each different kind of job can contain different data, although they all share some common fields such as StartDate.
So I have a table that stores the property details PropertyDetails:
*ID
PropertyAddress
PropertyPostCode
Then I have a table that stores all of the jobs' shared details:
*PropertyID
*JobID - These three make up a compound primary key
*JobType
StartDate
EndDate
Then I have individual tables for each of the Jobs, for example BuildingWork:
*JobID
BuildingContractor
InsuranceCompany
Which works great, and enables me to query all basic job details from one table (JobDetails) rather than multiple tables for every job type.
BUT: I don't know how to enforce the referential integrity of the database. Obviously I can use a constraint to cascade deletes from the PropertyDetails table to the JobDetails table through the PropertyID, but there doesn't appear to then cascade the deletes from the JobDetails table to the individual Job tables as JobDetails has no idea what tables are there.
If I store the relevant individual table name as the JobType in the JobDetails table, could I use a trigger to somehow delete the related record from that table?
Littlecharva
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Apr 10, 2006
Is there a way to disable referential integrity on all destination tables for an import?
Thanks.
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Aug 1, 2001
Can someone give me an example on how to enforce cross-database referential integrity with triggers in SQL Server 2000?
Thanks,
Joel
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Sep 19, 2014
In SQL Server 2012 (also 2005 and 2008), can you have Referential Integrity across a Database? Across a Schema?
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Nov 13, 2006
I am having great difficulty with cascading deletes, delete triggers and referential integrity.
The database is in First Normal Form.
I have some tables that are child tables with two foreign keyes to two different parent tables, for example:
Table A
/
Table B Table C
/
Table D
So if I try to turn on cascading deletes for A/B, A/C, B/D and C/D relationships, I get an error that I cannot have cascading delete because it would create multiple cascade paths. I do understand why this is happening. If I delete a row in Table A, I want it to delete child rows in Table B and table C, and then child rows in table D as well. But if I delete a row in Table C, I want it to delete child rows in Table D, and if I delete a row in Table B, I want it to also delete child rows in Table D.
SQL sees this as cyclical, because if I delete a row in table A, both table B and table C would try to delete their child rows in table D.
Ok, so I thought, no biggie, I'll just use delete triggers. So I created delete triggers that will delete child rows in table B and table C when deleting a row in table A. Then I created triggers in both Table B and Table C that would delete child rows in Table D.
When I try to delete a row in table A, B or C, I get the error "Delete Statement Conflicted with COLUMN REFERENCE". This does not make sense to me, can anyone explain? I have a trigger in place that should be deleting the child rows before it attempts to delete the parent row...isn't that the whole point of delete triggers?????
This is an example of my delete trigger:
CREATE TRIGGER [DeleteA] ON A
FOR DELETE
AS
Delete from B where MeetingID = ID;
Delete from C where MeetingID = ID;
And then Table B and C both have delete triggers to delete child rows in table D. But it never gets to that point, none of the triggers execute because the above error happens first.
So if I then go into the relationships, and deselect the option for "Enforce relationship for INSERTs and UPDATEs" these triggers all work just fine. Only problem is that now I have no referential integrity and I can simply create unrestrained child rows that do not reference actual foreign keys in the parent table.
So the question is, how do I maintain referential integrity and also have the database delete child rows, keeping in mind that the cascading deletes will not work because of the multiple cascade paths (which are certainly required).
Hope this makes sense...
Thanks,
Josh
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Sep 5, 2007
Hello All
Firstly thanks a lot Phil and Jamie on such a helpful article on "Checking to see if a record exists and if so update else insert"
Here is my question
I have about 10 tables and there respective working tables
For examples: A, B, C, D, E.... and WorkA, WorkB, WorkC....
Notes:
1) When I execute a package these work table (Work A, WorkB ...) get populated with certain rows say about 5
2) Its not that all the work table are populated on every execution.
3) Tables A, B, C... have thousands of records in it.
4) Work table is of same structure as there parent table..Like WorkA same structure as A.....
5) The table A and WorkA and as on... are linked with a KeyID
Now I want to build a SSIS package that can
1) Get the the data from these multiple tables(WorkA, WorkB...)
2) Process each row of these tables WorkA, WorkB..
3) Depending upon the KEYID of WorkA., WorkB.. etc Update a Flag colunm of table A, B...where the KeyID is equal to KeyID of Work Table
4) After updating insert that processed row of Work A, WorkB ...into Table A, B..
I can do this if I have one source table and one destination table. Here i have some say 10 randomly source tables to respective random destination .
All I could think of creating 10 different packages as adviced in Jamie's article. But I am sure there might some other alternative.
Can somebody advice me the best practice of doing this. Thanks a lot in advance
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Aug 23, 2007
Not sure if the title describes my situation or not.
Simplified example is:
I have an [Employee] table with EmpCode, EmpName
I have a second table [NewHires] that has: HireDate, EmpCode, Addedby
Both EmpCode and Addedby contain EmpCode referring to the Employee table.
I wish an output similar to:
New Employee (from EmpCode in NewHire), Hired on (From HireDate), Hired By (from Addedby)
My problem is with an Employee.EmpCode=NewHires.Empcode or Employee.EmpCode=NewHires.Addedby in the Where clause or Join part of the SQL I don't know how to get EmpName from the Employee table twice but using two different EmpCode as the reference.
Thanks in advance - Shawn
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Dec 7, 2007
Is it possible to define a referential constraint between two tables in two different databases (on two servers)? Or are there beter best practices methods/products to achieve this result.
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Jun 12, 2007
Consider a situation. There is a table of submitted 'documents'. They have some attributes. There are assignments to process the things, which have a date they were created. Finally there is a price list which specifies the price according to document features and date, so that the assignment to process a document created at different time will have a different cost. In other words, there is a relation
(assignment->document.attribute(s) + assignment.date) -> pricelist.price
Creating relations has the integrity advantages: it is not possible to create an assignment, which price is not defined in the pricelist; precludes the pricelist entry removal if it is referred by any assignments.
Should a view, which combines all the foreign fields into one virtual table, be created to make establishing the reference possible?
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Apr 3, 2008
Hi ..
This is chetan jain DBA sql server..
i want to know that...
1.can i move some tables of database through DTS to another server having refrential integrity ( source tables have refrential integrity)????
Thanks in advance.
-- Chetan
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Jun 4, 2008
Hi everyone,
I have recently converted my DTS packages to SSIS and deployed them to the new server. I have the 2000 and 2005 server running concurrently, all that is left for me to do is compare the the tables generated by the DTS and SSIS packages to see if they are the same.
How do I go about comparing the tables, which are from two different servers using SQL server 2005?
Thank you inadvance:)
Comparing data and integrity between two tables
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Apr 30, 2008
Hi all,
I am writing a portion of an app that is of intensely high online eCommerce usage. I have a question about identity columns and locking or not.
What I am doing is, I have two tables (normalized), one is OrderDemographics(firstname,lastname,ccum,etc) the other is OrderItems. I have the primary key of OrderDemographics as a column called 'ID' (an Identity Integer that is incrementing). In the OrderItems table, the 'OrderID' column is a foreign key to the OrderDemographics Primary Key column 'ID'.
What I have previously done is to insert the demographics into OrderDemographics, then do a 'select top 1 ID from OrderDemographics order by ID DESC' to get that last ID, since you can't tell what it is until you add another row....
The problem is, there's up to 20,000 users/sessions at once and there is a possiblity that in the fraction of a second it takes to select back that ID integer and use it for the initial OrderItems row, some other user might have clicked 'order' a fraction of a second after the first user and created another row in OrderDemographics, thus incrementing the ID column and throwing all the items that Customer #1 orders into Customer #2's order....
How do I lock a SQL table or lock the Application in .NET to handle this problem and keep it from occurring?
Thanks, appreciate it.
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Jan 3, 2006
Hi there,
I have been at this problem for a few hours now using Net 2.0, and can't seem to find an answer.
I am using a asp:calendar that allows the user to pick multiple dates.
When the user is finished and hits the command button, I would like for those dates to be inserted into a table in my SQL DB called Dates.
The mutildate calendar works fine--, and I have placed all of the sates into an Array. And now have a loop for the array to print them out.
What I want to do, instead of printing, is insert them.
C anyone post some 2.0 code behind for insertion? I have found other "batch insert" code, but when I place in the VB, I get errors telling me it is no longer supported.
For example:
Dim sqlCon As New SqlConnection (no longer works in 2.0) since it doesn't recognize Sqlconnection.
Should I use a SqlDataSource? And if so, how do I prepare the Insert command for it?
Any and all help appreciated!
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