Renaming Database After Log Shipping.

Jun 30, 2007

In order to move from one data center to another, I am planning to use log shipping.
Lets say,

Current Data center - DC1
Current Server- S1
Current Database- DB1

New Data Center -DC2
New Server -S2

Now, on the New Server S2, I already restored DB1 as DB1 for QA testing. QA has to do some testing before we move from DC1 to DC2. In the mean time, I need to start log shipping from S1 to S2, so that we can fail-over to S2. Now since DB1 database is already present on S2, I can not use the same name. I will have to use some other name (say DB1_New).
I can not wait for QA to finish their testing. I have to start log shipping before that. When QA is done, I will delete the DB1.

So for this log shipping, -

Primary - S1- DB1
Secondary - S2 DB1_New

So when we fail-over, we will have the database name as DB1_New. But all the apps use the name DB1. So I will have to rename the database as DB1.

So want to know, will this renaming the database (DB1_New to DB1) cause any issues?

Anyone had similar experience?


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