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Is there a way to get replication to commit records in batches instead of all at once?? I am in a 24/7 shop and some of my updates end up being thousands of rows and it locks the subscriber table for a few minutes sometimes. If I could get it to commit say every 1000 rows it might give me some relief in this area..

Or am I thinking about this wrong?? If this is possible, would it help at all...

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Hi, All,



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Thanks

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Now the problem. When I set the "Maximum insert commit size" as described in the last case above, I see LONG pauses between buffers being handled by the OLE DB Destination. For example, I might see one buffer of data flow through (and be handled by one or more "insert bulk" statements based on the "Maximum insert commit size" setting), then see a 2-3 minute pause before the next buffer of data is handled (with its one or more "insert bulk" statements being executed). Then I might see a 4-5 minute pause before the next buffer of data is handled. The pause between the buffers being passed through the OLE DB Destination (and handled via the "insert bulk" statements) is sometimes shorter, sometimes longer.

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