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Jul 20, 2005

I have a distributed inventory control database that I am going to
migrate from Access to SQL Server. I am going to use SQL Server
Replication to keep the data current.

There will one SQL Server 2000 database at HeadOffice, and about 200
branches will each have MSDE 2000.

For tables that are the same for each branch (e.g. StockItems,
Suppliers), I'm going to use Transactional replication with the
HeadOffice as Publisher. There is no need for Merge replication,
because only HeadOffice will be changing this data.

For tables that are updated at the branches (e.g. deliveries, sales),
there shouldn't be any
conflicts either, as each branch will only update data that is
specific to it. So, transactional
replication with the Branches as Publishers seems like the answer.
BUT, MSDE 2000 only handles merge replication as a publisher, so it
looks like I'm going to have to use Merge Replication if I'm am going
to use MSDE.

Question: Do you think that it worth buying a full SQL Server licenses
for each branch, so that I can use Transactional replication with the
branches as publishers. Or, should I stick with MSDE 2000 and Merge
replication. Also, are there any other reasons why MSDE won't be
adequate as the database at the branches.

Thanks,
Craig

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Message:
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Description
CentPub is central publisher which just collecting data from subscribers. So, Order was made on one of the other subscribers different than Sub2, mean user at location3 insert order with details in local database, after a while, CentPub take this order to its database (MyDB), after that CentPub try to sync with some of the other subscribers (i.e. Sub2 == location2) and then for some unknown reason orderDeatils failed to insert in Sub2's orderDeatil table because constraint 'FK_OrdersDetails_Orders' conflict.
After that happened, thing goes like in http://support.microsoft.com/kb/307482 (generally: in next session, failed order details are deleted
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Deleted record I bring back to life with conflict manager in EM, but I'd like it never happen.
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Hi,



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