Restore/Log Growth Question:
Oct 6, 2003
Restore/Log Growth Question:
We have an SQL2K SP3 Decision Support Server which will be receiving a nightly data dump from the offsite production system. We’ve decided on a backup/restore process to move the data. We’re currently testing the process and have come across a problem. The test backup file is only 500MB, the real DB will be approx. 20GB, and when it is restore the DB is fine but the log file has ballooned to 8 GB.
When the DB is restored the properties of the production DB are forced over our settings. These include no truncation of log on checkpoint and a full recovery model (the destination DB will have simple recovery). We’ve been through the books online and search online forums, but have not found information on this particular problem. We can, of course, shrink the log file after restoring but are concerned about the amount of dead space needed when the real DB is delivered.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Oct 15, 2007
Hi at all,
first post....first help :P .
I hope to help another one (basing on my knowledge) in the next future :)
I'm a beginner dbadmin and I'm looking for help regarding a strange fact relative SQL Server 2005 :)
I migrated a medium(3,5GB) database from sql server 2000 to sql server 2005.
I made a backup in sql server 2000 (it has generated a 3,5GB BAK FILE) and I restored it in sql server 2005 on another server. (I didn't checked data file size).
I configured (with wizard) a maintenance plan on new sql server 2005 with these steps (in this order):
(tellme if the order of the steps is wrong :))
1) check db
2) rebuild index
3) reorganize indexes
4) update statistics (all table and all views)
I planned the maintenance plan on 3a.m. and I went home.
Next day I found that data file (MDF) on sql server 2005 was 22GB large!!
I made a shrink DB but there wasn't free space to erase. It seems there are
22GB of data.
(the data inside is the same of the sql 2000 server..same records same
table...identical, non change of data in the meanwhile)
How is it possible? What am I doing wrong?
I don't understand what can caused the growth of the file, the maintenance plan or the restore? (unfortunately....I didn't checked size after restore...I checked it only the next day).
May be the statistics? (there wasn'int update statistics job on old maintenance plan on sql server 2000)
Thanks in advance :)
Bob
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Aug 14, 2001
Does this seem right? We have our transaction logs set to "Truncate Log on Checkpoint" and they still grow over 1GB. Is it possible that one transaction (to a checkpoint) generates this much logged information? Will transaction log backups every 5-10 minutes help me out better or is this just a poorly written application?
Thanks!
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Mar 6, 2001
I am having a problem with the growth of the tempdb on my SQL 7.0 box. I have over 300+ stored procedures that are running (many with group by and order by in them). This is causing the size of my tempdb to grow to over 30gigs in size. If i reset the services of the DB it shrinks back down to the managable 6 gigs that i expect. Is there a way to have the services restart automatically on a nightly basis or is there a way to have the tempdb deallocate resources once they are used without restarting services?
I apreciate any help you can provide,
Nathan
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Oct 9, 2002
Hi,
I am moving table(14 million rows) data from one server to another, The transactional log file growth during the process is 3 folds compared to actual data file size.
Could you please tell why?
Thanks
John Jayaseelan
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Feb 14, 2005
Well my question is how do i analyze db growth per day. is there a tool i can use or a method. I mean i do take a look at the task view and the files but per day it doesnt move in MB wich is weird since this is a warehouse and their are nightly loads to it inserting maybe 30000 record a night on avg.
Any help would be grately aprreciated.
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Sep 17, 2007
Hi everyone,
I'm a beginner in SQL Server databases, my problem is this:
i'm making a database witch the frontend is an access project, the database has several stored procedures views and user functions (the normal..), but a few data, (only the experimental), last night i've noticed that the file grow from 22 MB to 89 MB, the objects are the same and also the data, the only diference was that i forgot to put in an event procedure code, the ADO method, "MoveNext", to update various records, and the loop was infinit.
Is it possible that SQL statments generated by ADO make the file grow so rapidly!?
If so how can i shrink it, because i've tried and and the results was 4%.
Can you help me!?
Thanks
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We use SQL 2000 and our database is configured to grow automatically by10%. Currently 96% of our database is used. At what point will thedatabase expand - what is the trigger point?
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I have done this experiment on one of the tables. There is table calledbuild havinf nvText Field with large no of records. I want to drop thatcolumn and recover space. These are the results I got.SP_SPACEUSED ‘BUILD’ Resultsname rows reserved data index_size unused1. Before Deleting nvText FieldBuild 663211 341440 KB 339464 KB 1944 KB 32 KB2. After Deleting nvText FieldBuild 663211 341440 KB 339464 KB 1944 KB 32 KB3. After Executing the Shrink Database from Enterprise Manager.Build 663211 608280 KB 604744 KB 3456 KB 80 K4. After Executing DBCC DBReindex (build,'',70)Build 663211 124096 KB 123392 KB 712 KB -8 KBCan anyone please explain me after executing step 3 i.e shrink datacolumn as well as index_size shows an increased figure whereas logicallyit should be a reduced figure.Regards,Harcharan*** Sent via Developersdex http://www.developersdex.com ***Don't just participate in USENET...get rewarded for it!
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Apr 20, 2007
I would like to know followings:
I want to see every day or weekly Database growth (%) save on table
I have some SP which will give me one time run and see the growth. which is ...
Please advice any other way to find out and save on a location ...
create procedure sp_growth as
set ansi_warnings off
declare @l_db_name varchar(50)
,@l_sql_string varchar(1000)
set nocount on
if object_id('DB_Growth') is not null
drop table DB_Growth
create table DB_Growth (Database_Name varchar(30), Logical_File_Name varchar(15), File_Size_MB int, Growth_Factor varchar(100))
declare db_name_cursor insensitive cursor
for
select name from master..sysdatabases
open db_name_cursor
fetch next from db_name_cursor into
@l_db_name
While (@@fetch_status = 0)
begin
select @l_sql_string = 'select ' + '''' + @l_db_name + '''' + ', name, ceiling((size * 8192.0)/(1024.0 * 1024.0)), case when status & 0x100000 = 0 then convert(varchar,ceiling((growth * 8192.0)/(1024.0*1024.0))) + '' MB''' + char(10)+char(13)
+ 'else convert (varchar, growth) + '' Percent''' + char(10)+char(13)
+ 'end' + char(10)+char(13)
+ 'from [' + @l_db_name + '].dbo.sysfiles'
insert into DB_Growth (Database_Name, Logical_File_Name, File_Size_MB, Growth_Factor)
exec (@l_sql_string)
fetch next from db_name_cursor into
@l_db_name
end
close db_name_cursor
deallocate db_name_cursor
select * from DB_Growth with (nolock)
if object_id('DB_Growth') is not null
drop table DB_Growth
set nocount off
set ansi_warnings on
return
GO
Thanks
Faiz Farazi
Daudkandi,Comilla, Bangladesh
http://www.databasetimes.net/
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Apr 20, 2007
I would like to know followings:
I want to see every day or weekly Database growth (%) save on table
I have some SP which will give me one time run and see the growth. which is ...
Please advice any other way to find out and save on a location ...
create procedure sp_growth as
set ansi_warnings off
declare @l_db_name varchar(50)
,@l_sql_string varchar(1000)
set nocount on
if object_id('DB_Growth') is not null
drop table DB_Growth
create table DB_Growth (Database_Name varchar(30), Logical_File_Name varchar(15), File_Size_MB int, Growth_Factor varchar(100))
declare db_name_cursor insensitive cursor
for
select name from master..sysdatabases
open db_name_cursor
fetch next from db_name_cursor into
@l_db_name
While (@@fetch_status = 0)
begin
select @l_sql_string = 'select ' + '''' + @l_db_name + '''' + ', name, ceiling((size * 8192.0)/(1024.0 * 1024.0)), case when status & 0x100000 = 0 then convert(varchar,ceiling((growth * 8192.0)/(1024.0*1024.0))) + '' MB''' + char(10)+char(13)
+ 'else convert (varchar, growth) + '' Percent''' + char(10)+char(13)
+ 'end' + char(10)+char(13)
+ 'from [' + @l_db_name + '].dbo.sysfiles'
insert into DB_Growth (Database_Name, Logical_File_Name, File_Size_MB, Growth_Factor)
exec (@l_sql_string)
fetch next from db_name_cursor into
@l_db_name
end
close db_name_cursor
deallocate db_name_cursor
select * from DB_Growth with (nolock)
if object_id('DB_Growth') is not null
drop table DB_Growth
set nocount off
set ansi_warnings on
return
GO
Thanks
Faiz Farazi
Daudkandi,Comilla, Bangladesh
http://www.databasetimes.net/
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I would like to know followings:
I want to see every day or weekly Database growth (%) save on table
I have some SP which will give me one time run and see the growth. which is ...
Please advice any other way to find out and save on a location ...
create procedure sp_growth as
set ansi_warnings off
declare @l_db_name varchar(50)
,@l_sql_string varchar(1000)
set nocount on
if object_id('DB_Growth') is not null
drop table DB_Growth
create table DB_Growth (Database_Name varchar(30), Logical_File_Name varchar(15), File_Size_MB int, Growth_Factor varchar(100))
declare db_name_cursor insensitive cursor
for
select name from master..sysdatabases
open db_name_cursor
fetch next from db_name_cursor into
@l_db_name
While (@@fetch_status = 0)
begin
select @l_sql_string = 'select ' + '''' + @l_db_name + '''' + ', name, ceiling((size * 8192.0)/(1024.0 * 1024.0)), case when status & 0x100000 = 0 then convert(varchar,ceiling((growth * 8192.0)/(1024.0*1024.0))) + '' MB''' + char(10)+char(13)
+ 'else convert (varchar, growth) + '' Percent''' + char(10)+char(13)
+ 'end' + char(10)+char(13)
+ 'from [' + @l_db_name + '].dbo.sysfiles'
insert into DB_Growth (Database_Name, Logical_File_Name, File_Size_MB, Growth_Factor)
exec (@l_sql_string)
fetch next from db_name_cursor into
@l_db_name
end
close db_name_cursor
deallocate db_name_cursor
select * from DB_Growth with (nolock)
if object_id('DB_Growth') is not null
drop table DB_Growth
set nocount off
set ansi_warnings on
return
GO
Thanks
Faiz Farazi
Daudkandi,Comilla, Bangladesh
http://www.databasetimes.net/
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I've got a question about the automatic database growth feature of V7. Here's an example:
I have a 1gb db that can grow to max size of 2gb.
I set the auto grow option to 75%
The first time the db grows it will grab 75% of the free space (1gb)
What happens if the database needs to grow again?
Will the db grow using the remaining free space (25%) or
has the database reached its max size because it can't grow any further?
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Hello,
I started to write a stored procedure to insert into a temp table from sp_spaceused but couldn't get the format right. I did a search in the swynk archive and saw that some people have solved this but I couldn't see any example code. Does anyone have scripts they've written to gather db size info using sp_spaceused or some other mechanism?
Thanks in advance,
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Sep 23, 2002
:eek: I am somewhat confused -- I have a database in production that I restored to a QA environment; upon restore, the size has grown by 200MB.
Both production and QA are running SQL2000 -- the only difference is that QA has the latest security hotfixes installed -- version 8.0.0.665 from KB article at the following link:
Q316333 (http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316333&id=Q316333)
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Hi All,
I am researching the iformation on how to a percentage of the database growth over time. I have looked on the net, but I didn't like anything I saw. Do you have any ideas?
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Hi DBA's,
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I have unrestricted growth on the tran log file ( By 10%). Auto Shrink is disabled.
Have any of you experienced this problem. Kindly share your comments.
Thanks,
V
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Hi everyone.
I am trying to find a way to calculate everyday my DB Growth, I did find a script on some site but it seems to give me the same information as the taskpad wich is not very specific. Basicaly i would like to know the size of a table in MB or in whatevever conversion possible, so that i will be able to do some forcasting.
Any help here would be greatly apreciated.
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All:
I've got a serious problem happening now with the transaction log on one of my databases. The log keeps growing at an alarming rate - avg. 1GB/hr on a ~550MB database; there's nowhere near that much insert/update activity in the database. This is causing space problems with the (hourly) log backups.
The database serves an internal web site; both the web server and the SQL server have been bounced, but this keeps happening.
Profiler shows many, many TransactionLog events in Profiler - orders of magnitude greater than other events. User activity is no greater than it ever is. DBCC OPENTRAN consistently returns no open transactions. I've created a job to checkpoint and truncate the log right before the log backups, but that's obviously only a stopgap for the backup space problem & not a solution.
Do you have any suggestions as to where to go from here? I'm at a loss, and this can't stay as it is. Thanks for ANY input...
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Hi,
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Any idea why this is
Regards,
Eldho
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Hello Everyone,
I appear to be doing something wrong. When I
set my Table for Unrestricted File Growth and
save it, When I go back and look at the settings
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It seems to me if you set any settings and apply
and/or save it. Should it not keep that setting.
Any advice would be great.
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2006 2007 2008
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keep in mind, this is how it is displayed in reporting services with a matrix(crosstab)
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Code Snippet
SELECT RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics.AutoId, RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics.Server_Description,
RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics.Database_Size_Datetime, RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics.Database_Description,
RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics.Database_Size_Mb, RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics.Database_Location,
RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics.Database_File_Name, DbSTAT.MonthlyDBTotal
FROM RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics INNER JOIN
(SELECT Database_Size_Datetime, Server_Description, Database_Description, SUM(Database_Size_Mb) AS MonthlyDBTotal
FROM RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics AS Tbl_Database_Statistics_1
GROUP BY Database_Size_Datetime, Server_Description, Database_Description) AS DbSTAT ON
DbSTAT.Server_Description = RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics.Server_Description AND
DbSTAT.Database_Description = RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics.Database_Description AND
DbSTAT.Database_Size_Datetime = RC_STAT.dbo.Tbl_Database_Statistics.Database_Size_Datetime
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SQL Server 2005
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Can I set log file growth to 0 ( none)? Will it affect inserts?
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We are running SQL Server 7.0 SP2, and are experiencing the following out-of-
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Space can be created by dropping objects, adding additional files,
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