Reusing Package Configuration In Child Packages
Feb 1, 2007
I currently have multiple (parent and child) packages using the same config file. The config file has entries for connections to a number of systems. All of them are not used from the child packages. Hence, my child package throws an error when it tries to configure using the same config file because it can't find the extra connections in my connection collection.
Does anyone have any ideas on the best way to go about resolving this? Is multiple config files (one for each connection) the only way?
Sachin
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Oct 26, 2005
I have 5 packages in a solution.
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May 3, 2007
Hi,
I've found this problem that when I change settings in my configuration file it does not automatically apply to all child packages which uses the same configuration file if run from a job in SQL Server Agent. I need to open the package and save it again from BIDS. I use one "load group" package to execute all other packages.
Is there a way from the job configuration to set a setting so the package allways will have the newest configuration?
Regards
Simon
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Sep 14, 2006
Hi guys,
Here's the deal. I have a child package, (say, pack01.dtsx), which uses a dtsconfig file for its connection string, which can be called from other packages, but which also can be called by itself.
However I also have another package (say, pack02.dtsx) which uses the same dtsconfig file for its connection string. It calls on pack01.dtsx.
When I use DTEXECUI and run pack01.dtsx, specifying the proper .dtsconfig file, it goes well. But when I try and run pack02.dtsx, an error occurs saying pack01.dtsx connection cannot be established.
How do I pass the connectionstring being used by pack02 to pack01, without having to remove the configuration file setting of pack01? Can a Parent Package configuration and a configuration file try and map to the same property?
Hope someone could help. Thanks.
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Sep 19, 2007
I have a package that executes 3 other packages in it. From the command line I pass in which config file to use (just contains db/seerver) does this setting get carried over into the child packages as well?
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Apr 4, 2007
I want to set multiple child packages running without waiting for them to complete in a parent SSIS package. The catch is that I will be running the same child package in multiple threads with different configuration variables set. I want to drive the config variables for the child packages via a SQL Server table, and start the execution of each child package from within a for-loop container.
Here's what I've tried, and why it didn't work:
1) Execute package task. Didn't work: Waits for the child package to complete before moving to the next step.
2) Kicking off the package via the "sp_start_job" stored proc in the msdn db. Didn't work: Can't specify config variable values.
3) Using the DTExec command line prompt. Didn't work: Same issue as 1). Waits for the package to complete.
Anything I'm missing? Any ideas on how to accomplish this?
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Mar 21, 2007
Hi I have completed my first SSIS master package which runs a whole lot of child packages depending on value of expressions on workflow. (refer http://www.sqlis.com/306-3.aspx)
Each of my child packages is .dtsx file location and each Excute Package task uses the file connection.
The master parent package is also a dtsx file location which will be run by a SQL Server 2005 Agent
All good--problem is testing from BIDs--each time a Excecute package task is run--turns yellow a new tab appears apears in the design window --showing you that particular .dtsx file control flow detail. DTS never had this behaviour --can I turn this off in the BIDS ie as I have dozens of new tabs at run time which makes it very hard to keep track of the master package. All I want is the master package running from BIDs, and no new tabs appearing at run time???
Thanks kindly
Dave
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Dec 18, 2007
Hi,
I'm fairly new to the SSIS world, and I've recently ported a bunch of dts packages over to SSIS. I'm an ASP.NET developer so I'm very familiar with the capabilities that configuration files give you, and I attempted to set up my solution as follows:
All of my "Data Sources" are at the project level, and added (with the same name) to each package. I wanted to have a single config file that had all of the project-level settings (i.e. connection strings, data file paths, etc). I then have a config for each package with the package level settings - i.e. variables, etc.
The problem becomes that all packages do not use all data sources. This results in an error when I try to open up a package for editing, it complains that it doesn't have a reference to data source XYZ that it is seeing in the configuration file.
Is there any way that I can get around this? If I have a password to a database change, I don't want to have to look through every config file and change it in multiple places.
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Mar 31, 2008
Hey...
I am running a parent SSIS package (running sp2, 9.0.3042) that calls several child packages.
On our development server, we now cannot run this because we get 1 or more of these errors:
"Error 0x80004003 while preparing to load the package. Invalid pointer . "
"Error 0xC0011008 while preparing to load the package. Error loading from XML. No further detailed error information can be specified for this problem because no Events object was passed where detailed error information can be stored. . "
It is not occuring on the same packages. It varies every time it is run.
I can run every one of the child packages individually, using the same login ID that the parent is executed under.
The parent package works fine on my local machine and other servers running the same version of SSIS. Just not on this server.
Does anyone have any ideas???
Thanks
BobP
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Feb 8, 2008
I searched for an answer for this, and found a few good threads, but none of them seem to be doing quite the same thing I'm trying to do.
I have two packages, parent and child. Parent does basic file manipulation -- encrypting/decrypting, moving from server to server, backing up to archive, pulling/pushing to external server via FTP, etc. It is completely dumb to what child does. Child is the guts of the data work -- the ETL package.
The goal is to have this one parent package be used by several ETL child packages. But not only can parent use different children (depending on which config is used when executing parent), but child can also handle different tasks, depending on a configuration it uses.
Let me break it down further.
Three packages:
ParentPackage - Used by all jobs
ChildPackage1 - Used for processing orders
ChildPackage2 - Used for processing inventory
Four configurations (thus four jobs):
Job1Configuration - Used for processing orders for ClientA
Job2Configuration - Used for processing orders for ClientB
Job3Configuration - Used for processing inventory for ClientA
Job4Configuration - Used for processing inventory for ClientB
Job1Configuration is set up to tell ParentPackage to use ChildPackage1, and to provide ChildPackage1 w/ various data for ClientA -- and so forth.
To my understanding, there is no passthrough of the config data from parent to child. A child package doesn't "inherit" or otherwise receive the information from the parent package, unless explicit variables are set up. This won't work for us, because ParentPackage is dumb of any data that the child packages may need. In other words, we don't want to set up ParentPacakge with every possible variable that every child package may need.
Also, I'm not aware of a way of setting up a job to provide a child package directly w/ a package configuration.
Is there any way to do what I'm trying to accomplish?
If I didn't explain something clearly, let me know and I will try to clarify.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Jerad
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Aug 29, 2006
Hello,
I was hoping someone might be able to clarify how configuartions work with child packages. My process has 3 levels of packages. The main packages called two child packages each of which calls more child packages.
I'm using Configurations to pass variables from parent packages to child packages. But each level of packages contains Data Flow Source/Destination connections. I was planning on having only 1 XML Configuration file in the main package that would allow the data connections for the main package to be configured for the target enviornment. When the job is scheduled I will be able to point a configuration file for use with the main packages. But will that configuration file be applied to all child packages that will run? All of the Connections Managers have the same name so I'd like to make the change in one file.
If not, am I forced to define a parent/child variable to pass the Connection String from the parent to each of the child packages? Use an expression to set the Connection String dynamically? This seems like a lot of extra work, so I'd really like to see if there is a way to do it with an XML configuration file. Even if I have to definte the same config file for each of my 20+ packages.
Thanks
-Dan
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May 23, 2006
Hi --I was wondering if this is a bug when I add new data in my table SSIS Confiurations and give wizard a new Configuration filter the package configuration wizard can not see the new values --the old values from the previous configuration are still showing---is there any known workaround or forced refresh I can do
thanks in advance Dave
Background:
SQL Package Configurations are most important because they provide the possibility of a central configuration store for your entire enterprise!!!!!!!! and is in my mind the only way to go
http://sqljunkies.com/WebLog/knight_reign/archive/2005/01/24/6843.aspx
Wizard results:
Name:
ETL
Type:
SQL Server
Connection name:
ETLConfiguration
Any existing configuration information for selected configuration filter will be overwritten with new configuration settings.
Configuration table name:
[dbo].[SSIS Configurations]
Configuration filter:
PT_CUST_ABR
Target Property:
Package.Variables[User::gsPreLoad].Properties[Value]
Package.Variables[User::gsPostLoad].Properties[Value]
Package.Variables[User::gsLoad].Properties[Value]
Package.Variables[User::gsFlatFilename].Properties[Value]
Package.Variables[User::gsFileName].Properties[Value]
Package.Variables[User::gsCDOMailTo].Properties[Value]
Package.Variables[User::gsCDOMailSubject].Properties[Value]
Package.Variables[User::giRecordCount].Properties[Value]
Package.Variables[User::giFileSize].Properties[Value]
Package.Variables[User::giBatchID].Properties[Value]
Package.Variables[User::gdFileDateCreated].Properties[Value]
Package.Connections[MyDatabase].Properties[ServerName]
Package.Connections[MyDatabase].Properties[InitialCatalog]
USE [ETLConfiguration]
GO
/****** Object: Table [dbo].[SSIS Configurations] Script Date: 05/23/2006 13:34:35 ******/
SET ANSI_NULLS ON
GO
SET QUOTED_IDENTIFIER ON
GO
CREATE TABLE [dbo].[SSIS Configurations](
[ConfigurationFilter] [nvarchar](255) COLLATE Latin1_General_CI_AS NOT NULL,
[ConfiguredValue] [nvarchar](255) COLLATE Latin1_General_CI_AS NULL,
[PackagePath] [nvarchar](255) COLLATE Latin1_General_CI_AS NOT NULL,
[ConfiguredValueType] [nvarchar](20) COLLATE Latin1_General_CI_AS NOT NULL
) ON [PRIMARY]
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May 17, 2007
I have a fairly simple SSIS project that has nested parent-child packages.
I am trying to find the best way to manage the connections strings so as to make the package portable across machines and environments. Currently there is one "master" package which calls 6 child packages. 1 of these child package calls 3 child packages of its own.
For the database connections, I've settled on creating a standardized .dtsConfig file for each server/login. This is a relatively small number (intially 8) that I don't expect to grow much.
I've taken a different approach for the file-system connections used by Execute Package components that call the child packages. For each package that has child packages, I store all the connection strings (paths) to the child packages in a single .dtsConfig file. This works well for the top-level "master" package where I can pass in the .dtsConfig file (that has the paths to the child packages) as a run-time option in the Execute Package Utility.
However, this approach seems to fall apart for the 2nd generation package that in turn call 3rd generation packages because I don't know how to get the .dtsConfig file (with the 3rd generation .dtsx package paths) path to this downstream dtsx package.
Though I'm sure there are others, the only two solutionsI can think of now are
(a)don't nest packages beyond 1 parent/child relationship -- not really an option or
(b)Store the path of .dtsConfig files for each .dtsx package as an environment variable on each machine. This option is unappealing because it would require adding an environment variable for every .dtsx package that has child packages. I don't think it would take long for this to grow into a large number, that would make managing environment variables cumbersome.
So far my experience with SSIS has been that there was a simple solution for each scenario I had. So this hoop jumping I'm going through seems to indicate I am just missing something.
Is there a better way I am just not getting?
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Apr 20, 2007
hello again!, this time I'm trying to run a Master Package from the SQL Server Agent but I can't set relative paths to the connections for all the child packages that the master package contains.
It only finishes execution when I set absolute paths for all connections in the connection manager within the SSIS Project.
Is there any property in the SQL Server Agent or mayby a workaround to solve this?
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Jun 29, 2006
It would appear that if a Child package is called more than once from a Parent using the 'Execute Package' task, then after the first execute the Parent Package Variables are not applied to child package. I.E we build dimensions in a master database and these are then loaded to a number of topic specific datamarts. We simply pass Parent variables to the child that hold source & target connection strings, the first time the package is called the correct database is accessed, subsequent Executes ignore the variables and use the original values. Manipulating the (our) event queue to run the package once results in the correct behaviour
Are packages cached when they are called from a Parent? if so is there a flag that I have missed to force a reload each time a child is executed?
This has just become a big problen for us so any guidance would greatly appreciated.
Paul
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Nov 30, 2006
HI, I have some parent parent packages that calls child packages. When I added a bunch of packages, I faced the buffer out of memory error. I then decided to set the child packages property ExecuteOutOfProcess to TRUE. I noticed that the execution time is longer now. Is this a good practice to set the ExecuteOutOfProcess to true? If so, is it normal that the execution time is longer?
Thank you,
Ccote
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Apr 11, 2008
I have around 10 packages for dim and fact Table load. Using deployment Utility i create setup and put the packages in to test environment.
Now my requirement is call all the packages in certain order from single package. Using Execute Package Task i could call only one package. how to achive this in deployment?
Thanks
Sam K
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Mar 2, 2007
Hi there,
I have a Business Intelligence project containing 4 packages. One of the packages is a parent package that just runs the other 3 packages sequentially (passing in variables via Package Configurations).
When I set the properties of the Execute Package tasks in the parent package, it seems that I can only select SQL Server or File System locations for the child packages.
What I want to do is for the parent to run the packages in the Visual Studio Project so that I can debug the whole process. I don't want to be bothered deploying the child packages so that I can run them from the parent, at least not while I am debugging the whole process.
How do I get the children to run within Visual Studio as well as the parent? I can't for the life of me find anything on the MSDN about this.
Many thanks in advance.
Richard F
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Nov 6, 2007
I have a parent package and three child packages.
In all packages they make connections to a SQL 2005 db which sits on the same instance as which the packages are being deployed.
In the Child packages these connections have the connection string set as a package property variable in Package configs and in the Parent package this variable exists correctly.
This variable in the Parent is itself defined in a PackageConfig which uses SQL Server as the holder for the configuration.
When I deploy the packages the connections to in the child packages fail, one connection by timing out, another with an acquire connection failure.
I have set the DelayValidation to false on all connections but it made no difference.
I have also increased the timeout to 180s but again still a failure.
When I deploy the parent package on its own it is successful, however when the child packages are deployed on their own these connections again fail to validate due to a timeout and connection failure, yet they are using the same connections defined in the parent.
The child packages are no larger than other single packags that I have deployed successfully with the same connection to the same server.
Is there anything special that I should be aware of regarding deployment of parent and child packages.
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Jul 11, 2007
Hi All,
I though i'd been going about setting up my SSIS package to run via a SQL job in the correct way. It would appear however that is not the case.
I have 4 SSIS packages, one of which is the parent package which calls the other three in sequence. I want to run this from a SQL job so that it calls the parent package and it deals with the others. There are connection managers in the package which use a SQL account to access the relevant databases. In addition i have encrypted the package.
I have set up a configuration file which holds the password package and the BillingSystem connection manager password. This file is re used by each package.
After deployment i have set up the SQL agent job to run the parent package. The job returns an error. Looking at the SSIS logging it appears that it completes the SQL task in the parent package and then fails when trying to launch each of the sub packages with an error stating that the SQL account used in the connection manager login failed. It looks as though the sub packages are not getting the password value from the configuration file and this is causing the failure. I though that each package would automatically pick up the config file as it has been setup to do. I have specified the configuration file in the SQL job but this appears to make no difference. Running the integrations seperately i have to add the configuration file in manually to the Run Package dialog box before they will work. This is not saved for the next run.
Can anyone help me get around this problem as i think i have the wrong idea as to how it is supposed to work.
Cheers,
Grant
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Aug 17, 2006
I have one package that executes 4 child packages (5 total). All 5 packages are set to log information using a connection string with a variable set at runtime for the location. The child packages use a parent variable to get the log connection string from the parent package.
The parent package logs fine, but a strange behavior occurs with the child packages.
The child packages all log data to the location used in the configuration file variable during runtime (like it's supposed to). However, I would get an error right before the first child package finishes execution saying path not found. Just for giggles, I created the folder I use in my development environment on the production environment. The error goes away, but the log file is created in that folder with no data in it. Subsequently, the log file with the data is created in the location set in the configuration file. Now I have two log files!!!!
Anybody know how to fix this?!
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Jun 13, 2007
My packages are now in the filesystem. I have given the parent package a password in the properties window, saved the package and moved it to the run location.
I am using the SQL Job Agent to schedule the execution. My step command line reads:
dtexec /FILE "C:Pathparentpackage.dtsx" /De mypass /MAXCONCURRENT " -1 " /CHECKPOINTING OFF /REPORTING EW
Do the the 20 or so child and grandchild packages require passwords to run this way?
Thanks,
IanO
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Oct 22, 2007
Hi,
I have been developing SSIS packages and recently I found a strange thing happening. When executing chilld packages from the parent packages the child packages dont open automatically in the Package Designer window. Hence I cant monitor the places where the errors/ row movement have happened in child pkgs without manually opening the them first and then executing the parent.
Sam
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Oct 1, 2007
I am running a package with a parent child relationship.
in the parent package I am executing a loop that calls the child package each time it loops.
The child package is executing a SQL command that retuns data and attempts to load the data into a flat file.
The problem is that everytime the SQL changes the Metadata needs to change also.
How can I refresh the child packages Metadata dynamically.
I KNOW THAT I CAN'T REFRESH THE METADATA WHILE THE PACKAGE IS RUNNING.
But I can refresh the Metadata before the package executes.
Does anyone know how to script this?
Thank you
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May 21, 2007
Hi,
I created a package which passes some infornmations( through parameters) to its child package.
I need to do some processing in parent package based on execution status of child package.i.e.
if child fails then some operation and if child succeeds then other operation.
To determine the status of execution of child package I am using two differnt constraint ..one constraint is having value "Success" and other having value "Failure".
My problem is that when child packge is executed successfully the constraint with value = "Success" works properly but when child fails the constraint with value "Failure" does not work.
-Prashant
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Dec 3, 2007
I have created a SSIS package with a Foreach Loop including a Data Flow Task, which in turn include a Row Count component which pass the row count value to variable with package scope. The variable is used in an Execute SQL Task following the Data Flow Task.
The package executes successfully when executed on its own, but when executed as a child from a parent package (which only include an Execute Package Task) the variable from the Foreach Loop becomes NULL.
There are a lot of other variables in the package receiving values dynamically without any problem, the row count variable however is the only variable in the package that receives a value as part of a Data Flow (and used in following tasks within the Foreach Loop).
Why does the variable become Null? For your information, I am using a variable with package scope and no variables from the parent package are used or passed from the child package to the parent package.
(For your information, we are running the 64 bit version)
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Dec 6, 2007
Hi there
We have a SSIS run which runs as follows
The master package has a configuration file, specifying the connect strings
The master package passes these connect-strings to the child packages in a variable
Both master package and child packages have connection managers, setup to use localhost. This is done deliberately to be able to test the packages on individual development pc€™s.
We do not want to change anything inside the packages when deploying to test, and from test to production. All differences will be in the config files (which are pretty fixed, they very seldom change). That way we can be sure that we can deploy to production without any changes at all.
The package is run from the file system, through a job-schedule.
We experience the following when running on a not default sql-server instance (called dkms5253uedw)
Case 1:
The master package starts by executing three sql-scripts (drop foreign key€™s, truncate tables, create foreign key€™s). This works fine.
The master package then executes the first child package. We then in the sysdtslog get:
Error - €œcannot connect to database xxx€?
Info - €œpackage is preparing to get connection string from parent €¦€?
The child package then executes OK, does all it€™s work, and finish. Because there has been an error, the master package then stops with an error.
Case 2:
When we run exactly the same, but with the connection strings in the config file pointing to the default instance (dkms5253), the everything works fine.
Case 3:
When we run exactly the same, again against the dkms5253uedw instance, but now with the exact same databases defined in the default instance, it also works perfect.
Case 4:
When we then stop the sql-server on the default instance, the package faults again, this time with
Error - €œtimeout when connect to database xxx€?
Info - €œpackage is preparing to get connection string from parent €¦€?
And the continues as in the first case
From all this we conclude, that the child package tries to connect to the database before it knows the connection string it gets passed in the variable from the master package. It therefore tries to connect to the default instance, and this only works if the default instance is running and has the same databases defined. As far as we can see, the child package does no work against the default instance (no logging etc.).
We have tried delayed validation in the packages and in the connection managers, but with the same results (error).
So we are desperately hoping that someone can help us solve this problem.
Thanx,
/Nils M - Copenhagen
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Dec 26, 2006
We
have one main package from which 7 other child packages are called. We are using
ParentPackage variables to assign values for variables and database connections.
While the values from ParentPackage variable get assigned to some of the
packages properly, to others it doesn€™t assign the value.
For example:
Except for one of the packages the database connection string gets assigned
properly to all other packages.
Similarly, in another package one of the
variables doesn€™t get assigned. In other packages it is assigned properly.
We
have checked all the other property values and they are exactly the same.
We cannot make any head or tail of this erratic behavior.
Please Help.
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May 21, 2007
hi,
I am interested in Passing value from a child Package variable to the Parent package that calls it in ssis.
I am able to call the Child package using the execute package task and use Configurations to pass values from the parent variable to the child, but I am not able to pass the value from the child to the parent.
I have a variable called datasetId in both the parent and child. it gets computed in the child and needs to be passed to the parent...
Any suggestions?
Thanks for any help in advance..
smathew
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Aug 25, 2006
I use a execute package task to run a child package in which I run some sql task.
as the error handle I insert a script task and link a line from execute package task to script task
of course the line is red,
but I found when the child package failed, the execute package task turns red,it stopped
the script task can't be run, I don't konw why?
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Feb 5, 2007
I have a parent package that uses Execute Package Task against three child packages. They are all setup to use the same configuration file, and the packages are all located in the same folder. Purpose of the configuation is to use the same connection strings for each child package.
I removed the path from the config. file specification to facilitate deployment. During debugging, the child packages cannot find the config file when they are run via the parent unless the full path is specified. If run standalone, a child package can find the config. file without the path. As I said, all dtsx filaes and the config file is in the same folder.
Also, the password-removal issue is killing me in development. Everytime I touch the config. file, it removes the password from the connection string. I have "protection level" set to "don't save sensitive" - I'd appreciate help with this too.
thanks
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May 27, 2008
I've been executing a package and passing a parent variable to the child using package configurations but I'd now like to do this using a script task. The script task would then programmatically load the package and execute it.
How do I do this and still use the parent variable?
I've found examples of how to load a package but I haven't been able to find out how to I load it specifying the parent variables.
I think it's possible. MSDN shows the available methods but the example is for the base method.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/microsoft.sqlserver.dts.runtime.package.execute.aspx
Cheers,
Ben
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Apr 23, 2007
Hello All,
I have a SSIS Package with a "Execute Package Task" to call a child package. I am trying to have the master/parent package complete its execution regardless the outcome (failure or success) of the child package. The overall structure of the master package is:
1. Perform Pre-load tasks (stored procedure).
2. Execute Package Task (call child package)
3. Perform Post-load Tasks (stored procedure)
I have try everything and cannot get the results that I want... I have tried the combination of "failparentonfailure", "forceexecutionvalue", etc. The master package stops at childs failure. I would like to resume to completion
Any ideas out there?
Rohan
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