SEND/RECEIVE And Message Order
May 12, 2007
I understand that SQL Service Broker will RECEIVE messages in the same order of SEND, so long as the messages are on the same conversation.
I would like to accomplish queue-level ordering instead of (or in addition to) conversation-level ordering.
There is a significant business case for this level of ordering. Consider an order processing system which is specified to fulfill orders in the sequence they are received. The reason for the ordering is as follows. Suppose the process(es) that RECEIVEs from the queue is down for several hours and the messages back up in the queue. Various customers place orders throughout this period of time. If more orders are placed than there are quantity for an item, the customers who placed their orders earliest in the day ought to be the ones that receive the merchandise and the later orders should be placed on backorder.
Limited experimentation showed that SQL Server totally disregards the order in which the messages were sent (on different conversations to the same queue).
The potential solution to use the same conversation has some drawbacks:
1. Difficult to do error handling because of the way error handling works in conversations.
2. It is not possible to RECEIVE using multiple threads. (Yes, RECEIVEing on multiple threads also would reorder the messages, but the reorderings would be localized in time so this would be tolerable by a lot of applications. In other words, orders from 1:00 AM would not be mixed with orders from 9:00 AM.)
Can anyone see a good solution to this in the current version?
If there are no good solutions, it would be great if Microsoft considers adding a feature where you can declare an ordering requirement when you CREATE QUEUE. Even support for an "approximate" ordering (messages can rearrange +/- several seconds) would be helpful, but the current way which seems to totally randomize the message order is not good for certain kinds of significant applications.
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Hi Folks,
I've found a pretty good code example on http://www.dotnetfun.com for a Asynchronous Trigger.
I've parsed through the Code, to understand how to wirte my own Async Trigger with a Service Broker, but the Code isn't working! It seems that the stored procedure don't receive the messages in the queue, but the queue get's filled.
MessageType
CREATE MESSAGE TYPE myMsgXML
VALIDATION = WELL_FORMED_XML;
Contract
CREATE CONTRACT myContractANY
(myMsgXML SENT BY ANY)
Queue
CREATE QUEUE myQueue
WITH STATUS = ON,
RETENTION = ON,
ACTIVATION
(
STATUS = ON,
PROCEDURE_NAME = sp_myServiceProgram,
MAX_QUEUE_READERS = 5,
EXECUTE AS SELF
)
Service
CREATE SERVICE myService ON QUEUE myQueue (myContractANY)
Procedure (greped from http://www.dotnetfun.com/)
CREATE PROC sp_myServiceProgram
AS
-- This procedure will get triggered automatically
-- when a message arrives at the
-- Let's retrieve any messages sent to us here:
DECLARE @XML XML,
@MessageBody VARBINARY(MAX),
@MessageTypeName SYSNAME,
@ID INT,
@COL2 VARCHAR(MAX);
DECLARE @Queue TABLE (
MessageBody VARBINARY(MAX),
MessageTypeName SYSNAME);
WHILE (1 = 1)
BEGIN
WAITFOR (
RECEIVE message_body, message_type_name
FROM myQueue INTO @Queue
), TIMEOUT 5000;
-- If no messages exist, then break out of the loop:
IF NOT EXISTS(SELECT * FROM @Queue) BREAK;
DECLARE c_Test CURSOR FAST_FORWARD
FOR SELECT * FROM @Queue;
OPEN c_Test;
FETCH NEXT FROM c_Test
INTO @MessageBody, @MessageTypeName;
WHILE @@FETCH_STATUS = 0
BEGIN
-- Let's only deal with messages of Message Type
-- myMsgXML:
IF @MessageTypeName = 'myMsgXML'
BEGIN
SET @XML = CAST(@MessageBody AS XML);
-- Now let's save the XML records into the
-- historical table:
INSERT INTO tblDotNetFunTriggerTestHistory
SELECT tbl.rows.value('@ID', 'INT') AS ID,
tbl.rows.value('@COL2', 'VARCHAR(MAX)') AS COL2,
GETDATE() AS UPDATED
FROM @XML.nodes('/inserted') tbl(rows);
END
FETCH NEXT FROM c_Test
INTO @MessageBody, @MessageTypeName;
END
CLOSE c_Test;
DEALLOCATE c_Test;
-- Purge the temporary in-proc table:
DELETE FROM @Queue;
END
Send Message in a Update Trigger
SELECT @XML = (SELECT * FROM inserted FOR XML AUTO);
-- Send the XML records to the Service Broker queue:
DECLARE @DialogHandle UNIQUEIDENTIFIER,
@ConversationID UNIQUEIDENTIFIER;
/*
The target Service Broker service is the same
service as the initiating service; however, you
can set up this type of trigger to send messages
to a remote server or another database.
*/
BEGIN DIALOG CONVERSATION @DialogHandle
FROM SERVICE myService
TO SERVICE 'myService'
ON CONTRACT myContractANY;
SEND ON CONVERSATION @DialogHandle
MESSAGE TYPE myMsgXML
(@XML);
-- Let's detect an error state for this dialog
-- and rollback the entire transaction if one is
-- detected:
IF EXISTS(SELECT * FROM sys.conversation_endpoints
WHERE conversation_handle = @DialogHandle
AND state = 'ER')
RAISERROR('Dialog in error state.', 18, 127);
ELSE
BEGIN
--I want to list the queue after the trigger so I disabled
--END CONVERSATION @DialogHandle;
COMMIT TRAN;
END
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WAITFOR (
RECEIVE message_body, message_type_name
FROM myQueue INTO @Queue
), TIMEOUT 5000;
and I run always into the timeout and get nothing back. A Select * FROM myQueue gives me some results back. Why I can't recevie?
Would be grateful for help, or at least a good tutorial, I haven't found one yet....
thx and greez
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WAITFOR (
RECEIVE @dh = [conversation_handle],
@message_type = [message_type_name],
@message_body = CAST([message_body] AS NVARCHAR(4000))
FROM [Queue]), TIMEOUT 1000;
WHILE @dh IS NOT NULL
BEGIN
IF @message_type = N'http://schemas.microsoft.com/SQL/ServiceBroker/Error'
BEGIN
RAISERROR (N'Received error %s from service [Target]', 10, 1, @message_body) WITH LOG;
END
END CONVERSATION @dh;
COMMIT;
SELECT @dh = NULL;
BEGIN TRANSACTION;
WAITFOR (
RECEIVE @dh = [conversation_handle],
@message_type = [message_type_name],
@message_body = CAST([message_body] AS NVARCHAR(4000))
FROM [Queue]), TIMEOUT 1000;
END
COMMIT;
Other times I will see this pattern for receiving messages: Why do a RECEIVE TOP(1) instead of just a RECEIVE?
WAITFOR(RECEIVE TOP(1)
@conversationHandle = conversation_handle,
@messageTypeName = message_type_name,
@messageBody = message_body
FROM [Queue]), TIMEOUT 1000;
And other times I will see this pattern for receiving messages: What is the purpose of RECEIVING into an in-memory table when you can just process the message directly?
WAITFOR(RECEIVE
queuing_order,
conversation_handle,
message_type_name,
message_body
FROM [Queue]
INTO @tableMessages), TIMEOUT 1000;
IF (@@ROWCOUNT = 0)
BEGIN
COMMIT;
BREAK;
END
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