SQL 2000 -&&> SQL 2005 Merge Replication Compatible?

Apr 19, 2006

Hi everyone,

I'm currently trying to setup a SQL 2k (SP3, build 922) merge replication publisher and a push subscription to a SQL 2005 (RTM release, no hotfixes) subscriber. The distribution database resides on a separate SQL 2k server (SP3, build 1007). I get the error below leading me to believe merge replication is not compatible between versions.

Replication-agentclassname: agent Agent_Name failed. Procedure or function sp_MSupdatesysmergearticles has too many arguments specified..

I say this b/c I've tried SQL 2005 32-bit and x64 subscribers and both give the same error. Anyone have any ideas if this is by design or just a bug that will be fixed later? Thanks.

LSC

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We have developed a mobile system that uses merge replication for SQL Mobile to SQL 2005. Previously we have developed mutliple mobile systems using merge replication for SQL Ce to SQL 2000.

Based on the knowledge we had gathered over about 4 years, we applied the synchronisation parameters for the SQL 2005 solution as we would for the SQL 2000 solution.

We have found there are some differences. Not too surprising I suppose, only some of these have us a little baffled.

For instance, there was a little flag called keep_partition_changes in SQL 2000 that is supposedly superceded by the use_partition_groups flag. However, if you don't set up your filtering to conform to the standards required by the use_pre_computed_partitions flag if you want it set to true, then the use_partition_groups flag gets set to false - also the @partition_options falg gets set back to 0 (static or non-unique data) when we want it at 3 (Single Parition, One subscriber).

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Hi,

I'm currently investigating the feasibility of having SQL Mobile on a number of devices running Windows CE. These devices will have to synchronize with the server (either using merge replication or RDA) over GPRS. The problem I have is that some of these devices will never be online. Is there are a way of synching these offline devices? The model I had in mind was using a USB key (or some other storage device) to download the latest updates from an online device and transferring this data to the offline device, and vice versa e.g. from offline to online and then merging. Is this feasible?

Thanks

Csharper

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Jul 29, 2006

Hi all,

We are using SQL Server 2005, on Windows server 2003 R2.

We Have Two Database Servers say DBServer1 and DBServer2, Now I wants to do Replication between these to servers, such that

1. The Changes at DBServer1 should be reflected at DBServer2
2. The Changes at DBServer2 should be reflected at DBServer1
3. Changes includes Data changes and Schema Changes
4. After every Synchronization Both Databases should be Identical

I tried doing so, what i did was
I cofigured Distribution at DBServer1, also Publisher and Publication at DBServer1
and Made a Subscription at DBServer2.

What I successfully done is
If Publisher means DBServer1 do some changes then it gets updated at DBServer2.
But New Rows added at DBServer2 doesn't gets added at DBServer1

Thanks in Advance,
Vishalgiri Goswami
Kalptaru Infosoft Pvt. Ltd.

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