SQL 2005 (32-bit) Cluster Memory Usage
Mar 6, 2008
We recently did an in-place upgrade of our cluster from SQL 2000 Enterprise to 2005 Enterprise. We are seeing memory utilization on the server that is not expected and wanted to get an idea from others if this is normal. Here is our setup:
32-bit Windows Server 2003 SP1
SQL 2005 SP2, 2-node cluster
16 GB memory on each node
/3GB /PAE switches in the boot.ini file
AWE Enabled, min memory=0, max memory=14000
The strange bit is that in the Task Manager the SQL service is showing as only using 205 MB of memory and the pagefile usage is at 13 GB. This is troublesome since it looks like SQL is using virtual memory instead of physical memory. We recently upgraded the memory from 4 GB to 16 GB, the sql cluster service account was added to the Lock Pages in Memory policy, the boot.ini switches were set and the AWE enabled/max_server_memory script was run before upgrading to 2005. Can anyone confirm either 1) this is normal or 2) how to correct the memory usage?
I have also questioned using the /3GB switch; would it be better to remove that and set the max memory for SQL to 12000?
Any help would be greatly appreciated. If I left off any information that would be helpful, please let me know.
Chris
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Jul 23, 2005
Dear all,i am planing to implement a Windows 2003 Cluster with MS SQl 2000Enterprise Edition. I have 2 Nodes (4 * XEON MP Processors) with 8 GBRAM per Node.I have the need for 6 SQL instances and would like to implement aactive-active cluster. What do you think it the best way to configurethe memory for the Servers ?I would like to run 3 instanced per Node but can i allocate 7 GB perNode for SQL (and 1 for the Operating System) ?What is happening then i one server fails ?Should i plan to allocate only 3 GB per Server for SQL to make surethat one server can handle the load for all instances if one serverfails ?Should i use the /AWE switch only in the boot.ini to allow more than 4GB Memory ?or should i use the /3 GB switch as well ?Maybe somebody can give me a hint.Best regards,Walter
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Jan 25, 2008
OVERVIEW
I run a MS SQL DB and have 7GB of RAM allocated to it to use. My DB size is around 30GB. I have about 30-40 users at any given time accessing this DB, and on any given moment we may have 2-3 queries being processed at the exact same time, but not really a high rate of usage.
The SQL is running on a 2 - Dual Core Xeon 2.8Ghz processor server in RAID 1+0. The average CPU usage is around 8-15% at most times, spikes to 60-70% sometimes then drops back down.
QUESTION
Why or what would cause SQL to show in my Task Manager as using 7GB of RAM constantly? When I restart SQL, system RAM drops to 1.7GB and holds. As traffic increases, as queries begin to be processed in SQL the RAM rises till it reaches the 7GB limit I set. Before it reaches this limit, the ASPX pages run smooth as silk. Once it reaches this 7GB limit they begin to crawl. A process that would take 2-6 seconds, now takes 30-60 seconds.
I know a couple years back I ran into this and it was because processes were not being closed and SQL was holding them in RAM, but I have been assured this is not the case now. I was told that because my DB is 30GB total (MANY tables, most are hardly ever accessed, and the bulk of the data is hardly accessed) that it is common for SQL to use and hold on to 7GB of data - is this true?
What would cause SQL to hold 7GB and slow way down? IS there a KB article that could help me understand this?
Thanks for your help.
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Hi,
I have a three-tier app written in C#, which takes information from a third party source (typically an array of double precision floats) and commits it to a SQL 2005 Db.
The Server then notifies the client that the information is available and the client queries the Db (through the server) in order to display it in "real-time". It all seems to work fine except that the memory usage by SQL 2005 just keeps rising. I have run a memory profiler on the server and client apps and they do not have a leak.
The test I am running has all three apps on the same machine and is reading in about 250k of data a second. It typically runs for just under two days on a machine with 2Gb RAM before falling over with System.OutOfMemoryException.
I have tried setting max memory usage but it seems to make no difference... anyone seen anything similar or know what my problem might be?
Thanks,
Paul G
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2) Would using the legacy DTS in SQL Server 2005 take advantage of this RAM difference, or is it running on the old 2000 engine and only able to use the 2GB?
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Hi forum readers,
we are working on a release 2.0 mobile solution right now. In our version 1.0 we did not have to worry about memory issues as our application was the only application running on our target devices (e.g. T-Mobile MDA Compact II Pocket PCs, WM2005).
Now we need to share the available memory with others. As our application relies on its SQL Server 2005 Mobile Edition database we are wondering about memory usage of that server.
We know that a Pocket PC divides its memory into Storage and Program. If our application uses a 5 MB database and 1.5 MB for DLLs and it's exe-file. These files reside in the storage space when not loaded. When the application starts up it is loaded in the program memory. What happens to the 5 MB database file? Is is loaded into Program memory as well? Are only portions of that file loaded? Or is nothing loaded at all?
Does anyone have a deeper insight into that server an can answer my questions.
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Hi,
I'm hoping that some might have an answer for me after much net searching.
I have a server (200GB disk space, Dual 3.8 GHZ processors, 4GB memory) that hosts 6, very small, SharePoint sites (WSS 2.0) and SQL 2005 express handling 1 config DB and 7 content DB's.
The biggest DB at the moment is only 300 MB and the sites are not actively being used yet, they are only open to a select number of users (+ - 25 in total) who are using them as reference "areas" at the moment. Each site is running in it's own application pool as well.
I find that the sqlserv.exe process increases in memory usage and does not seem to decrease. It gets to the point of 960 MB usage and then databases cannot be used (SQL 2005 Express max memory is 1GB). SQL seems to "close" them down and site errors being received are "site is not in configuration database". When the SQL service is restarted the memory usage idles around 70 - 80 MB, the sites are 100% again but after an hour or 2 the memory usage is sitting at 560 MB again and doesn't seem to decrease.
Is there a way I can bring this memory usage down?
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Good day to all,
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Hello,
I need to know which of the following two methods do need less RAM.
There are 2 big tables, each about 9 M rows, and 6 small dimension tables with each about 10 to 100 Rows. The dimension tables are joined by their id's with one of the big table.
The Structure of a dimension Table looks like
CarID (tinyint), Description (varchar(20))
1 BMW
2 Porsche
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Hope you got that ;-)
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Hi,
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We have seen this behavior for this box last month that after task manager showing 90% memory usage contantly for several days, when server was manually rebooted, memory usage dropped to 35%. Now it's back to 80%.
Our DBA thinks that server should be rebooted on a regular schedule regardless of memory problem. Our network admin doesn't seem to agree with this. He is not ready to reboot the machine even with this high memory usage.
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Hi All,
Currently I have an application that uses SQL 2000. The SQL server service tends to take up as much of the physical memory as possible. The problem is I also have other services relating to this application running that are very important.
What tends to happen after a period of time is SQL takes up all of the physical memory, so that the other services are using the paging file (virtual memory). This causes extremely slow response time over the network as these other services are having to parse the paging file.
Upgrading the memory is currently not an option :(
I know there is an option to set memory usage for SQL but I am unsure how this would respond in a production environment. What would happen if SQL would require more memory than what was allocated to it?
Can SQL release the memory and still act as normal?
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*It seems to be the way that SQL Server works. It just uses all the memory which it can get. I have two remarks about this:
1) I that is true, then why is a fresh installation of SQL Server not consuming all the memory it can get?
2) After a few weeks, it consumes so much memory that the whole system (even SQL Server itself) start running very slow. I don't think that's the intended behavior?
So I thought about restricting the maximum memory that SQL Server uses, but people keep saying that's not the way it should be done: SQL Server should be allowed to allocate memory dynamically.
Can anyone help me with my questions?
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Hi to all,
I front a series problem with my SQL Server.
I Use SQL Server 2000 standard on Windows 2000 Server machine.
The problem: after certain actions such as DTS (that takes table
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Is it a bug? why SQL doesn't free the memory after finishing the action.
Any Solutions ? Please send me a short feedback.
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